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		<title>By: The Google Phone will not be released &#124; Technovia</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ARTICLE: Rumor: Is a true Google phone in the works? &#124; Cell Phone Reviews</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ARTICLE: Rumor: Is a true Google phone in the works? &#124; Cell Phone Reviews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark Kelley</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Considering that Andy Rubin - who created Danger and the Sidekick - is the Director of Mobile Platforms at Google i&#039;ve been surprised they have not put out a device already.   This device did have a &quot;Jobs-ian&quot; focus on the customer and had a huge following (despite limited to T-Mobile, and now losing user&#039;s data) It may be a better idea to influence andorid adopters - such as MOT - than to compete with them as Mark S. points out.  It would be impossible to convince some that GOOG does not have special hooks back in their cloud that provide enhanced services to users of their phone rather than the average Android device.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering that Andy Rubin &#8211; who created Danger and the Sidekick &#8211; is the Director of Mobile Platforms at Google i&#8217;ve been surprised they have not put out a device already.   This device did have a &#8220;Jobs-ian&#8221; focus on the customer and had a huge following (despite limited to T-Mobile, and now losing user&#8217;s data) It may be a better idea to influence andorid adopters &#8211; such as MOT &#8211; than to compete with them as Mark S. points out.  It would be impossible to convince some that GOOG does not have special hooks back in their cloud that provide enhanced services to users of their phone rather than the average Android device.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Going on It&#8217;s Own? Unlocked? Cool! &#171; Mobile Green Guy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] says he’s spoken with hardware companies involved in bringing the product to market. According to this GigaOM post, Kumar also says that Google will release a netbook (presumably running Chrome OS) next year, and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-10-22 &#171; 個人的な雑記</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: There Really Might Be a Google Phone. No, Seriously! &#171; Tech7.Net</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/10/20/real-google-phone/#comment-227611</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Google add Apple to Enemies list &#171; Kindle Review &#8211; Kindle 2 Review, Books</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] There was also news yesterday that Google will build their own Android Phone and sell it directly at Retail. So now they&#8217;re also competing with every carrier that sells [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Mobile OS: Is Google Pulling a Microsoft Against Apple? &#124; CloudAve</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: There Really Might Be a Google Phone. No Seriously! &#124; Om Malik &#124; Voices &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Charbax</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google needs to make hardware. Otherwise we won&#039;t see $100 Android and Google Chrome pocket sized and laptop sized products.

Also, Google can embed a White Spaces modem in those devices as soon as the FCC gives them the green light, which basically means free unlimited wireless broadband for all.

Building a global White Spaces network is cheap, all they need to do is partner with FON to build a $20 White Spaces enabled router that all consumers will install at home on their home broadband or just connected to the electricity to function only as a mesh forwarder, and Google just needs to setup a few Base stations per city connected to their dark fiber, and all the wireless broadband Internet is spread around the whole city using the 700mhz spectrum of white spaces and Mesh networking between all the routers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google needs to make hardware. Otherwise we won&#8217;t see $100 Android and Google Chrome pocket sized and laptop sized products.</p>
<p>Also, Google can embed a White Spaces modem in those devices as soon as the FCC gives them the green light, which basically means free unlimited wireless broadband for all.</p>
<p>Building a global White Spaces network is cheap, all they need to do is partner with FON to build a $20 White Spaces enabled router that all consumers will install at home on their home broadband or just connected to the electricity to function only as a mesh forwarder, and Google just needs to setup a few Base stations per city connected to their dark fiber, and all the wireless broadband Internet is spread around the whole city using the 700mhz spectrum of white spaces and Mesh networking between all the routers.</p>
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		<title>By: Justa Notherguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Aaron:

&gt; I love Google for all their functionalities but they have terrible visual designers.

That would be an interesting observation if we had any confirmation as to Google&#039;s input viz a particular device.

Who says Google have involved themselves in _any_ phone&#039;s external appearance? Find us a quote and post a link, Ok? Meanwhile, let&#039;s recall that these folks have a famously minimalistic website...one which is often lauded for exactly that quality. On the other hand, Motorola can be hit-or-miss. Ever seen a ROKR? And, until recently, HTC (maker of the G1) have no particular record of stylistic flair in hardware design.

&gt; Everything they make looks less elegant and terrible compared to their
&gt; competition. Android OS looks like crap visually even in v2.0.

I disagree. Anybody who announces that _Android_ &#039;looks like crap&#039; hasn&#039;t spent a few days with an unskinned WinMo 6.1 phone or - God help you - one of those 1st gen. Blackberry Storm things. :P Meanwhile, so long as we limit ourselves to appearance (and, mainly, appearance of the base-level system screens rather than the hand-set&#039;s shell), I&#039;m not exactly bowled over by the iPhone&#039;s approach, either.

Laugh if you want, but ask around; many iPhone owners feel the same way. That inflexible, &#039;checkerboard&#039; home-screen is not what convinced them to buy and a good many find themselves bored to tears, after a couple years of looking at the dopey thing. And, hey - how much difference is there between system settings on Android vs iPhone? Pull up some screenshots and check them side-by-side.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron:</p>
<p>&gt; I love Google for all their functionalities but they have terrible visual designers.</p>
<p>That would be an interesting observation if we had any confirmation as to Google&#8217;s input viz a particular device.</p>
<p>Who says Google have involved themselves in _any_ phone&#8217;s external appearance? Find us a quote and post a link, Ok? Meanwhile, let&#8217;s recall that these folks have a famously minimalistic website&#8230;one which is often lauded for exactly that quality. On the other hand, Motorola can be hit-or-miss. Ever seen a ROKR? And, until recently, HTC (maker of the G1) have no particular record of stylistic flair in hardware design.</p>
<p>&gt; Everything they make looks less elegant and terrible compared to their<br />
&gt; competition. Android OS looks like crap visually even in v2.0.</p>
<p>I disagree. Anybody who announces that _Android_ &#8216;looks like crap&#8217; hasn&#8217;t spent a few days with an unskinned WinMo 6.1 phone or &#8211; God help you &#8211; one of those 1st gen. Blackberry Storm things. :P Meanwhile, so long as we limit ourselves to appearance (and, mainly, appearance of the base-level system screens rather than the hand-set&#8217;s shell), I&#8217;m not exactly bowled over by the iPhone&#8217;s approach, either.</p>
<p>Laugh if you want, but ask around; many iPhone owners feel the same way. That inflexible, &#8216;checkerboard&#8217; home-screen is not what convinced them to buy and a good many find themselves bored to tears, after a couple years of looking at the dopey thing. And, hey &#8211; how much difference is there between system settings on Android vs iPhone? Pull up some screenshots and check them side-by-side.</p>
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		<title>By: Justa Notherguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe it. My money says, this &#039;Google Phone&#039; rumor is most likely a contrivance - perhaps a trial balloon, perhaps wishful thinking, or perhaps a simple misunderstanding. Recall when similar rumors preceded the G1?

Same goes for the alleged netbook project. Google have previously announced they were working with a hardware partner on something along those lines. I&#039;d need to see compelling evidence before I could believe this collaborative effort (with Google as consultant/OS provider) has morphed into a &#039;Google Book&#039; sub-contract deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe it. My money says, this &#8216;Google Phone&#8217; rumor is most likely a contrivance &#8211; perhaps a trial balloon, perhaps wishful thinking, or perhaps a simple misunderstanding. Recall when similar rumors preceded the G1?</p>
<p>Same goes for the alleged netbook project. Google have previously announced they were working with a hardware partner on something along those lines. I&#8217;d need to see compelling evidence before I could believe this collaborative effort (with Google as consultant/OS provider) has morphed into a &#8216;Google Book&#8217; sub-contract deal.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[more interesting than hardware would be for Google to establish an MVNO SIM card offering. it could contain Google Voice as its core offering total integration on every handset without requiring any software on the phone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more interesting than hardware would be for Google to establish an MVNO SIM card offering. it could contain Google Voice as its core offering total integration on every handset without requiring any software on the phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could this be the mystery HTC Android device pictured at TheUnlockr.com?  Note the Android and Google logos on the back:

http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/16/what-new-htc-android-phone-is-this/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could this be the mystery HTC Android device pictured at TheUnlockr.com?  Note the Android and Google logos on the back:</p>
<p><a href="http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/16/what-new-htc-android-phone-is-this/" rel="nofollow">http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/16/what-new-htc-android-phone-is-this/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/10/20/real-google-phone/#comment-227602</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google making its own phone is a terrible idea. I love Google for all their functionalities but they have terrible visual designers.  Everything they make looks less elegant and terrible compared to their competition.  Android OS looks like crap visually even in v2.0.

G1 - A phone that Google helped design = beyond terrible
Droid - A phone Google is influencing the design also (as stated by BGR) went from looking good in the early builds to rather much uglier at the end.

Google please hire better visual designers before even trying to make a phone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google making its own phone is a terrible idea. I love Google for all their functionalities but they have terrible visual designers.  Everything they make looks less elegant and terrible compared to their competition.  Android OS looks like crap visually even in v2.0.</p>
<p>G1 &#8211; A phone that Google helped design = beyond terrible<br />
Droid &#8211; A phone Google is influencing the design also (as stated by BGR) went from looking good in the early builds to rather much uglier at the end.</p>
<p>Google please hire better visual designers before even trying to make a phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sigal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Sigal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Om,

I think that you hit the nail on the head on two points. One, Google&#039;s culture is heavily decentralized, which explains why you don&#039;t see Google&#039;s family of products interconnected in a value added fashion (e.g., Wave should be a no brainer to integrate with News, YouTube, Maps, Blogger, Calendar, Documents and Sites).

Arguably, it explains the curious decision to come out with two OS&#039;s (Android, Chrome) when they have yet to perfect one.  Culturally, they lack the Jobs-ian mindset to say 1+1=3, focusing instead on a loosely coupled approach to products.

Two is that there is no better way to undermine your open ecosystem &quot;arms dealer&quot; dealer positioning than by competing against the same OEMs (and potentially, Carriers) that you are hoping to get to adopt your platform.

That said, I am sure they understand that winning - beating, outflanking Apple - requires an integrated hardware, software, service and tools platform that is highest common divisor versus lowest common denominator oriented, and see a window to winning (or trying to).

That&#039;s why I&#039;ve thought from the get go that all of the blather about the &#039;inevitably&#039; of Android shows a serious lack of understanding about just how hard it is to make a hardware/software/service/tools platform play truly  successful.

Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om,</p>
<p>I think that you hit the nail on the head on two points. One, Google&#8217;s culture is heavily decentralized, which explains why you don&#8217;t see Google&#8217;s family of products interconnected in a value added fashion (e.g., Wave should be a no brainer to integrate with News, YouTube, Maps, Blogger, Calendar, Documents and Sites).</p>
<p>Arguably, it explains the curious decision to come out with two OS&#8217;s (Android, Chrome) when they have yet to perfect one.  Culturally, they lack the Jobs-ian mindset to say 1+1=3, focusing instead on a loosely coupled approach to products.</p>
<p>Two is that there is no better way to undermine your open ecosystem &#8220;arms dealer&#8221; dealer positioning than by competing against the same OEMs (and potentially, Carriers) that you are hoping to get to adopt your platform.</p>
<p>That said, I am sure they understand that winning &#8211; beating, outflanking Apple &#8211; requires an integrated hardware, software, service and tools platform that is highest common divisor versus lowest common denominator oriented, and see a window to winning (or trying to).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve thought from the get go that all of the blather about the &#8216;inevitably&#8217; of Android shows a serious lack of understanding about just how hard it is to make a hardware/software/service/tools platform play truly  successful.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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