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	<title>Comments on: The Never-ending Dilemma: Upgrade Your Old Mac or Get a New System?</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/10/08/the-never-ending-dilemma-upgrade-your-old-mac-or-get-a-new-system/#comment-358728</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

I got a G5 Powerbook with 1.25Gb of ram memory, running MAC OSX 10.3.9. = Main computer paid close to 4000$ (back when it was new).

I also use a PC that is about 1 year older running Windows XP. = Secondary computer paid about 1500$ (one year before my PowerBook).

On the MAC, I can&#039;t upgrade to the &quot;latest&quot; versions of the softwares like msn, AdiumX, firefox, now I&#039;m blocked from Myspace, can&#039;t upgrade Flash Players,... and the list goes on. 2 years ago, I was ready to by an IPOD, willing to pay the 300$+ bucks for it. But I needed to upgrade my OS to 10.4.1... spend another 80- to 150$ just for the OS upgrade? So an IPOD + OS upgrade = 400$+ ?

http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=browserunsupported
It&#039;s a web site!!! Not some kind of fancy software.

To top things off, was using Adium X, up to less than a week ago and then &quot;my version&quot; isn&#039;t compatible with the MSN protocol. &quot;Adium : Our protocol is not supported by the server&quot;. And the newest &quot;Adium&quot; doesn&#039;t work on 10.3.9... oh boy.

On my PC tower, using a &quot;primitive Windows XP&quot; I can upgrade to newer versions of anything I need. Hey I can even use the latest IPODS without the need to upgrade my computer or OS.

The point is, now I&#039;m thinking of changing computers and the thought of trying the new Windows 7 sounds like good news... since I can still use Windows XP software on it and will probably use Windows 7 for a long time. How long will the new OSX last me for? Will I be stuck 5-6-7 years down the road with a perfectly running computer, but won&#039;t be able to run &quot;new&quot; applications and will be forced to change computers again and spend another 3-4 grand?

Quite annoying.

A soon to be EX Mac user
Dan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I got a G5 Powerbook with 1.25Gb of ram memory, running MAC OSX 10.3.9. = Main computer paid close to 4000$ (back when it was new).</p>
<p>I also use a PC that is about 1 year older running Windows XP. = Secondary computer paid about 1500$ (one year before my PowerBook).</p>
<p>On the MAC, I can&#8217;t upgrade to the &#8220;latest&#8221; versions of the softwares like msn, AdiumX, firefox, now I&#8217;m blocked from Myspace, can&#8217;t upgrade Flash Players,&#8230; and the list goes on. 2 years ago, I was ready to by an IPOD, willing to pay the 300$+ bucks for it. But I needed to upgrade my OS to 10.4.1&#8230; spend another 80- to 150$ just for the OS upgrade? So an IPOD + OS upgrade = 400$+ ?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=browserunsupported" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=browserunsupported</a><br />
It&#8217;s a web site!!! Not some kind of fancy software.</p>
<p>To top things off, was using Adium X, up to less than a week ago and then &#8220;my version&#8221; isn&#8217;t compatible with the MSN protocol. &#8220;Adium : Our protocol is not supported by the server&#8221;. And the newest &#8220;Adium&#8221; doesn&#8217;t work on 10.3.9&#8230; oh boy.</p>
<p>On my PC tower, using a &#8220;primitive Windows XP&#8221; I can upgrade to newer versions of anything I need. Hey I can even use the latest IPODS without the need to upgrade my computer or OS.</p>
<p>The point is, now I&#8217;m thinking of changing computers and the thought of trying the new Windows 7 sounds like good news&#8230; since I can still use Windows XP software on it and will probably use Windows 7 for a long time. How long will the new OSX last me for? Will I be stuck 5-6-7 years down the road with a perfectly running computer, but won&#8217;t be able to run &#8220;new&#8221; applications and will be forced to change computers again and spend another 3-4 grand?</p>
<p>Quite annoying.</p>
<p>A soon to be EX Mac user<br />
Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Pico RG</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/10/08/the-never-ending-dilemma-upgrade-your-old-mac-or-get-a-new-system/#comment-358727</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pico RG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would go for get a new system becouse the first will not work if you want to get some updates.
But doesn&#039;t this include better Personal computer memory?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would go for get a new system becouse the first will not work if you want to get some updates.<br />
But doesn&#8217;t this include better Personal computer memory?</p>
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		<title>By: Kendall Tawes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/10/08/the-never-ending-dilemma-upgrade-your-old-mac-or-get-a-new-system/#comment-358726</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kendall Tawes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ditto]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto</p>
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		<title>By: Charles W. Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles W. Moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi sevenfish;

Regrettably not.

DayStar did market G4 upgrades up to 3 GHz I think for the Aluminum PowerBooks for a short time about three years ago, but they didn&#039;t sell well enough to continue with. A used or refurb. Intel MacBook would still blow the G4 into the weeds performance wise, and that killed the PowerBook processor upgrade market.

CM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi sevenfish;</p>
<p>Regrettably not.</p>
<p>DayStar did market G4 upgrades up to 3 GHz I think for the Aluminum PowerBooks for a short time about three years ago, but they didn&#8217;t sell well enough to continue with. A used or refurb. Intel MacBook would still blow the G4 into the weeds performance wise, and that killed the PowerBook processor upgrade market.</p>
<p>CM</p>
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		<title>By: sevenfish</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sevenfish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d love to upgrade my 5 year old Ti-Book. I&#039;ve maxed out the RAM and have a much larger drive but need a processor upgrade. Do any exist for this machine?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to upgrade my 5 year old Ti-Book. I&#8217;ve maxed out the RAM and have a much larger drive but need a processor upgrade. Do any exist for this machine?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Jackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mmmm. Ferrari!

I&#039;ll get around to looking  up the numbers I&#039;ve been selling Macs since my first iBook 600Mhz G3 back in 2001. 

The resale value is awesome w/ AppleCare and if you include some kind of case and keyboard protector. It means no scratches but well worth the time you take to not scratch it up.

Basically, I&#039;m paying $250 every 6 months for the latest Mac. It&#039;s kind of like a rental fee. Do I need a 3ghz MBP w/ 8Gbs of ram? Nope but when they&#039;re updated to 3.5Ghz, I&#039;ll just upgrade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmm. Ferrari!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll get around to looking  up the numbers I&#8217;ve been selling Macs since my first iBook 600Mhz G3 back in 2001. </p>
<p>The resale value is awesome w/ AppleCare and if you include some kind of case and keyboard protector. It means no scratches but well worth the time you take to not scratch it up.</p>
<p>Basically, I&#8217;m paying $250 every 6 months for the latest Mac. It&#8217;s kind of like a rental fee. Do I need a 3ghz MBP w/ 8Gbs of ram? Nope but when they&#8217;re updated to 3.5Ghz, I&#8217;ll just upgrade.</p>
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		<title>By: mike sanders</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mike sanders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think adam has it right the high resale value is often overlooked in price comparisons with PCs (who buys a used PC?).
I am the marketers dream the early adopter just gotta have the latest, having an extended family I have the excuse and the power (being the grandpa) to hand the machines down so it really works very well.
There is nothing like opening the box on a new Mac except perhaps opening the door of a brand new Ferrari.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think adam has it right the high resale value is often overlooked in price comparisons with PCs (who buys a used PC?).<br />
I am the marketers dream the early adopter just gotta have the latest, having an extended family I have the excuse and the power (being the grandpa) to hand the machines down so it really works very well.<br />
There is nothing like opening the box on a new Mac except perhaps opening the door of a brand new Ferrari.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a MacBook 500mhz G3 that just now died on me. I rarely used it, but I certainly got my money out of it and then some. I&#039;ve had a MacPro since they were introduced. Just added another internal HD and upgraded to 11GB RAM. I see no reason I can&#039;t get another 2 or more years out of it. I also just got a 13&quot; MBP when they were announced - LOVE IT! I can see it lasting for at least another 2 years for my writing and web graphics duty.

I&#039;ve never been an &quot;upgrade&quot; type of person. It&#039;s one thing to toss RAM into a tower to improve performance. But when performance is bad enough that you&#039;re thinking about a processor/video card upgrade - I find that you&#039;re probably a candidate for a new machine anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a MacBook 500mhz G3 that just now died on me. I rarely used it, but I certainly got my money out of it and then some. I&#8217;ve had a MacPro since they were introduced. Just added another internal HD and upgraded to 11GB RAM. I see no reason I can&#8217;t get another 2 or more years out of it. I also just got a 13&#8243; MBP when they were announced &#8211; LOVE IT! I can see it lasting for at least another 2 years for my writing and web graphics duty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been an &#8220;upgrade&#8221; type of person. It&#8217;s one thing to toss RAM into a tower to improve performance. But when performance is bad enough that you&#8217;re thinking about a processor/video card upgrade &#8211; I find that you&#8217;re probably a candidate for a new machine anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a timely article, I am currently facing this very dilemma!  I&#039;m using a two year old MacBookPro3,1 - the first batch to use the Santa Rosa chipset and it is still serving me well.  I have upgraded the RAM to 4Gb and the HD to 320GB 7200 rpm.  I have an SD card reader in the ExpressCard slot, so it is very nearly functionally equivalent to what I could buy new.

While writing this post it just occurred to me what my benchmark is... as long as it continues to play World of Warcraft with good performance, I&#039;ll keep it!

;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a timely article, I am currently facing this very dilemma!  I&#8217;m using a two year old MacBookPro3,1 &#8211; the first batch to use the Santa Rosa chipset and it is still serving me well.  I have upgraded the RAM to 4Gb and the HD to 320GB 7200 rpm.  I have an SD card reader in the ExpressCard slot, so it is very nearly functionally equivalent to what I could buy new.</p>
<p>While writing this post it just occurred to me what my benchmark is&#8230; as long as it continues to play World of Warcraft with good performance, I&#8217;ll keep it!</p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Jackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never keep a machine more than 6 months. No I&#039;m not rich, only bring in around 45K a year w/ $1600 rent (yeah I live in San Francisco) but I can usually sell my laptops for 92% of what I paid for them. 85% is the average though. 

I should write a blog post soon about getting the most for your Mac on eBay cause people just don&#039;t believe that I get such great resale value for Macs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never keep a machine more than 6 months. No I&#8217;m not rich, only bring in around 45K a year w/ $1600 rent (yeah I live in San Francisco) but I can usually sell my laptops for 92% of what I paid for them. 85% is the average though. </p>
<p>I should write a blog post soon about getting the most for your Mac on eBay cause people just don&#8217;t believe that I get such great resale value for Macs.</p>
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