Comments on: The iPhone & Nokia's Troubles, By the Numbers

By: Nokia who ?

Nokia who ? — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:24:58 +0000

Like the heavy bulky dinosaurs, who couldn’t fit into an evolving environment and extinct, together with IBM, Digital and others, Nokia will eventually vanish. The reason is that their phones sucks, they are uncomfortable with a low-end, ancient, unreliable OS – and aside from western Europe people do not really like them. Apple’s iPhone is only one of the mammals that announces its end as a single behemoth in the cell phones market.

By: Robert Morrison

Robert Morrison — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:36:09 +0000

If you consider Nokia’s handset sales, which are still fully an order of magnitude greater than Apple’s, “trouble” then you need to go back and review your basic grade school math before writing any more posts like this one. We could all wish for Nokia’s “troubles” in this case. Apple’s iPhone is just a one-trick pony and it’s pitiful little circus of fully-conned suckers is TEN TIMES smaller than Nokia’s. Wake up and make your way to the grand egress, Apple will never dominate the handset market.

By: NB

NB — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:39:41 +0000

The analysis may not be as deep, but the data is clearly NOT for the US – it is for Western Europe (according to the article above). Rest of your comments (“elite”) depend on one’s perspective.

“during the second quarter of 2009 in the company’s home market of Western Europe.”

By: Engago team

Engago team — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:57:25 +0000

The real winner is SAMSUNG.
They are the only company that controls the production process and retail distribution process.
Additonnally they supply most of the components to other manufacturers under OEM agreements.
The iPhone has Samsung components.

If you go into a retail store and want to buy anything: changes are high you will consider a Samsung.

By: humax

humax — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:34:17 +0000

spot on!

By: Sylvain

Sylvain — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:16:04 +0000

This article is US-centric and has no or superficial analysis.
Nokia is dominating smartphone market even more than it’s dominating handsets market with several best sellers like 5800XM and N97… No iconic-elite-showoff phone but a series of “devices for the people” packed with added value services like car navigation or push email.

By: slim

slim — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:53:54 +0000

A-Tool – wake up brother. Nokia doesn’t get it – the mobile web that is. they made terrific phones, but you don’t see Western Electric dominating telecom hardware. Nokia will still post big#’s in developing countries, but even kidz in Mumbai want an iPhone…not an N900 Communicator that “Comes With Music” and or some N-Gage rehash.

By: The Crypticum Keeper

The Crypticum Keeper — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:46:02 +0000

You left out conservative and stubborn, which can work against other attributes.

But I do agree: too soon to count Nokia out, and that Finnish stubbornness can work FOR them as well. ;)

By: The Crypticum Keeper

The Crypticum Keeper — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:44:03 +0000

Bingo!

Glad to see somebody get that. ;)

By: The Crypticum Keeper

The Crypticum Keeper — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:41:21 +0000

Again: the chart is misleading. Note how people in this conversation misunderstood the last column.

By: volody

volody — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:26:51 +0000

I am not big fan of Mac, but iPhone as a platform was brilliant approach and it will gain even more advantage in a nearest future. The problem I see is that Apple will stick with design for a long time, and will be difficult for them to introduce something new on this scale.

By: Nicholas

Nicholas — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:55:37 +0000

Chris,

I think it simply has to do with the ecosystem and tools. Developing for a common profile helps a lot! The question isn’t how does Nokia compete now, it’s how it does so in two years. I believe that this has to do with mobile web rather than applications per se. But, I also believe that these applications will be more widget/application like than on the desktop. Outside of games, WebKit can accomplish most of what is necessary.

By: Darren

Darren — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:16:20 +0000

Nokia need to concentrate on Phones and kick their Ovi stuff into touch.

By: Simon

Simon — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:15:39 +0000

iPhone surely is a great device, but the game has just begun. Android is likely to grab its share and Maemo 5 is looking real good. When these open platforms start rollin in my bet is that Apple will end up with the same kind of marketshare as they have in personal computers. Nice products for a relatively small audience.

By: tak

tak — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:57:19 +0000

Dude, that’s what the chart says…. annual change. I know you don’t like to see this, but these are actual numbers…

By: charlie

charlie — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:54:40 +0000

Profit share profit share profit share profit share…..