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	<title>Comments on: Skype CEO Lobbies for Skype on 3G</title>
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		<title>By: Skype CEO Lobbies for Skype&#8217;s right to be used over 3G &#183; Gadget Mania Gadgets and Gadget News</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224549</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skype CEO Lobbies for Skype&#8217;s right to be used over 3G &#183; Gadget Mania Gadgets and Gadget News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 02:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nach Netzneutralität-Order: Skype will zurück in das UMTS-Netz &#124; Basic Thinking Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224548</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nach Netzneutralität-Order: Skype will zurück in das UMTS-Netz &#124; Basic Thinking Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] auf das Handy zur&#252;ckzukehren. Dazu will CEO Josh Silverman heute Abend auf einer Veranstaltung eine Rede vor Branchenvertretern halten, unter denen unter anderem auch der FCC-Vorsitzende Julius Genachowski sitzen wird. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] auf das Handy zur&#252;ckzukehren. Dazu will CEO Josh Silverman heute Abend auf einer Veranstaltung eine Rede vor Branchenvertretern halten, unter denen unter anderem auch der FCC-Vorsitzende Julius Genachowski sitzen wird. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How Skype Plans to Dominate Business Telephony</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224547</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How Skype Plans to Dominate Business Telephony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Silverman about his plans for the Skype in the coming years. In the first part of the conversation, Josh discussed his lobbying efforts to get Skype working over 3G [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Silverman about his plans for the Skype in the coming years. In the first part of the conversation, Josh discussed his lobbying efforts to get Skype working over 3G [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He means this in a business (or product) context, not a technical context. As far as a business or a user is concerned, they both do the same thing and therefore there is no difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He means this in a business (or product) context, not a technical context. As far as a business or a user is concerned, they both do the same thing and therefore there is no difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Skype Over 3G - Does This Make Sense? ~ IT Professionals</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224545</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skype Over 3G - Does This Make Sense? ~ IT Professionals]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I learned that Skype&#8217;s CEO is lobbying to allow Skype to be used over 3G networks. Really? Yes, it is true that while some 3G networks are [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I learned that Skype&#8217;s CEO is lobbying to allow Skype to be used over 3G networks. Really? Yes, it is true that while some 3G networks are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: powel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224544</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[powel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;just as there is no difference in wired and wireless networks&quot; .... what?! how did he become ceo by saying things like this ... ok, you may want to say/do whatever possible to get more business, but saying such bs costs you credibility .... they are inherently different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;just as there is no difference in wired and wireless networks&#8221; &#8230;. what?! how did he become ceo by saying things like this &#8230; ok, you may want to say/do whatever possible to get more business, but saying such bs costs you credibility &#8230;. they are inherently different.</p>
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		<title>By: riffic</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[riffic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skype is dead-end technology. it is a walled-garden and the very definition of proprietary, never mind the fact that the core p2p technology is under dispute by the founders.

A forward thinking platform should be based on open standards and built with interoperability with other services in mind. How successful would have the original telephone networks been if users from AT&amp;T were unable to talk to subscribers on another network.

Google Talk, built with open standards XMPP and Jingle, is a great alternative btw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skype is dead-end technology. it is a walled-garden and the very definition of proprietary, never mind the fact that the core p2p technology is under dispute by the founders.</p>
<p>A forward thinking platform should be based on open standards and built with interoperability with other services in mind. How successful would have the original telephone networks been if users from AT&amp;T were unable to talk to subscribers on another network.</p>
<p>Google Talk, built with open standards XMPP and Jingle, is a great alternative btw.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224542</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[skype could get the blessing of all the carriers by developing the same service that runs on the 3 network from Hutchinson. the voice channel is were the calls belong .not the data channel. also they may have to block skypein/skypeout to get the blessing of the operators. but all the other benefit of skype would be there including presence.

of course there are now and will be 3rd party options to help make cheap calls even though skypeout/in is blocked. basically callback services that work with skypenames in place of phone numbers.

this would all help get skype into the enterprise switchboards as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>skype could get the blessing of all the carriers by developing the same service that runs on the 3 network from Hutchinson. the voice channel is were the calls belong .not the data channel. also they may have to block skypein/skypeout to get the blessing of the operators. but all the other benefit of skype would be there including presence.</p>
<p>of course there are now and will be 3rd party options to help make cheap calls even though skypeout/in is blocked. basically callback services that work with skypenames in place of phone numbers.</p>
<p>this would all help get skype into the enterprise switchboards as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Skype CEO and FCC Chairman in Washington &#171; IKnowRusty.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224541</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skype CEO and FCC Chairman in Washington &#171; IKnowRusty.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] will be talking about getting Skype on the 3G network of cell phone providers. Right now Skype is currently blocked over 3G networks and only allowed [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will be talking about getting Skype on the 3G network of cell phone providers. Right now Skype is currently blocked over 3G networks and only allowed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jm</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224540</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Generally wide area network refers to the external portion of a network and local area network refers to the internal portion. Therefore, a local network would be say, ALL of Time Warner Cables&#039; cable modem users (which is a LOT of IPs). Then internet that is on the other side of that network (outside of Time Warners Local network) is a WAN. All of that is relative of course.

If you have a Time Warner Cable internet connection, and you have a LAN, then the time warner LAN is your WAN by extension.

Anyway, what he said was correct, it was just correct at a much larger scale than the typical home LAN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally wide area network refers to the external portion of a network and local area network refers to the internal portion. Therefore, a local network would be say, ALL of Time Warner Cables&#8217; cable modem users (which is a LOT of IPs). Then internet that is on the other side of that network (outside of Time Warners Local network) is a WAN. All of that is relative of course.</p>
<p>If you have a Time Warner Cable internet connection, and you have a LAN, then the time warner LAN is your WAN by extension.</p>
<p>Anyway, what he said was correct, it was just correct at a much larger scale than the typical home LAN.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224539</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Om,
This is where I respectfully disagree with Josh.

To require or even suggest that a 3G network should be used for transport for his services, is quite frankly, assuming that he or his company knows more about the economics of transport than the carrier. I am probably taking him out of context, but, let&#039;s just set the extreme bound so, perhaps we can meet in the middle.

Personally, my experience in Mobile VoIP has been less the glamorous despite what the Skype fanboys say (I am a fanboy of skype, but I am also a fanboy of carrier economics). I hope Josh is not asking to utilize 3G specifically, but wants deeper integration into the mobile phone irrespective of what technology is used. Ex. 3Uk&#039;s skypephone is deeply integrated with skype (presence, contacts, etc), however, it uses voice switching to complete calls, skype sessions, etc.

I don&#039;t believe most rationale carriers would balk from such situation and quite frankly, the carriers really don&#039;t have a choice with the unlimited minutes and Google voice alternatives.

When we tell carriers that they must transport voice over 3G, especially when it costs them more money to do this, vs. the legacy switch network, you will run into real-world opposition. Or quite simply, the data plan prices will increase to offset the extra data tonnage and backhaul needed at the towers. There is no such thing as a free lunch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om,<br />
This is where I respectfully disagree with Josh.</p>
<p>To require or even suggest that a 3G network should be used for transport for his services, is quite frankly, assuming that he or his company knows more about the economics of transport than the carrier. I am probably taking him out of context, but, let&#8217;s just set the extreme bound so, perhaps we can meet in the middle.</p>
<p>Personally, my experience in Mobile VoIP has been less the glamorous despite what the Skype fanboys say (I am a fanboy of skype, but I am also a fanboy of carrier economics). I hope Josh is not asking to utilize 3G specifically, but wants deeper integration into the mobile phone irrespective of what technology is used. Ex. 3Uk&#8217;s skypephone is deeply integrated with skype (presence, contacts, etc), however, it uses voice switching to complete calls, skype sessions, etc.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe most rationale carriers would balk from such situation and quite frankly, the carriers really don&#8217;t have a choice with the unlimited minutes and Google voice alternatives.</p>
<p>When we tell carriers that they must transport voice over 3G, especially when it costs them more money to do this, vs. the legacy switch network, you will run into real-world opposition. Or quite simply, the data plan prices will increase to offset the extra data tonnage and backhaul needed at the towers. There is no such thing as a free lunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Inventor</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224538</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inventor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Malik,

I have very interesting and timely tid-bit of information on Skype and US Patent 7,089,319 applicability and behind the scenes buyout drama. I am one of the inventors listed on the patent, and this is NOT a sales pitch of any kind. Just wanted to run an idea and a concept by someone of your experience and knowledge of social network community. I could not find your e-mail. Please contact me at anthony_remove_(at)adrodotcom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malik,</p>
<p>I have very interesting and timely tid-bit of information on Skype and US Patent 7,089,319 applicability and behind the scenes buyout drama. I am one of the inventors listed on the patent, and this is NOT a sales pitch of any kind. Just wanted to run an idea and a concept by someone of your experience and knowledge of social network community. I could not find your e-mail. Please contact me at anthony_remove_(at)adrodotcom</p>
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		<title>By: Tech News Monday September 21, 2009 &#124; The Contemplation</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tech News Monday September 21, 2009 &#124; The Contemplation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Don&#8217;t Understant Skype CEO wants to make sure Skype software works over the 3G networks of various phone companies. Wait, what? Skype wants to make sure that cell phone users with a 3G phone can make free phone calls? I am confused. If you have a cell phone, why do you need Skype? I use Skype, but I do not have a lan or cell phone. I only pay $60/year for service. To be able to use Skype on your cell phone you would need an unlimited data plan at $60/month. ( gigaom . . .) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Don&#8217;t Understant Skype CEO wants to make sure Skype software works over the 3G networks of various phone companies. Wait, what? Skype wants to make sure that cell phone users with a 3G phone can make free phone calls? I am confused. If you have a cell phone, why do you need Skype? I use Skype, but I do not have a lan or cell phone. I only pay $60/year for service. To be able to use Skype on your cell phone you would need an unlimited data plan at $60/month. ( gigaom . . .) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Inventor</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224536</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inventor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skype can STILL be saved. See US Patent 7,089,319. Provides them with intellectual property protection, allows to keep existing peer-to-peer architecture, opens the platform for developers, gets rid of the ridiculous Kazaa legacy augmention - plus - on the subject of G3 - enables pure HTML/JAVA Skype client creation. No more silly apps or telcos roadblocking true connectivity revolution. Spread the truth. See more at

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PALL&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=7,089,319.PN.&amp;OS=PN/7,089,319&amp;RS=PN/7,089,319]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skype can STILL be saved. See US Patent 7,089,319. Provides them with intellectual property protection, allows to keep existing peer-to-peer architecture, opens the platform for developers, gets rid of the ridiculous Kazaa legacy augmention &#8211; plus &#8211; on the subject of G3 &#8211; enables pure HTML/JAVA Skype client creation. No more silly apps or telcos roadblocking true connectivity revolution. Spread the truth. See more at</p>
<p><a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;d=PALL&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&#038;r=1&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;s1=7,089,319.PN.&#038;OS=PN/7,089,319&#038;RS=PN/7,089,319" rel="nofollow">http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;d=PALL&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&#038;r=1&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;s1=7,089,319.PN.&#038;OS=PN/7,089,319&#038;RS=PN/7,089,319</a></p>
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		<title>By: Benedict Evans</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/20/skype-ceo-lobbies-for-skype-on-3g/#comment-224535</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benedict Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skype works fine when the 3 people who&#039;ve jail-broken their phones are using it. If everyone was, it wouldn&#039;t.

And given that Skype uses 3-4x more radio capacity than a cellular voice call, I have absolutely no sympathy with the idea the mobile operators should allow it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skype works fine when the 3 people who&#8217;ve jail-broken their phones are using it. If everyone was, it wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And given that Skype uses 3-4x more radio capacity than a cellular voice call, I have absolutely no sympathy with the idea the mobile operators should allow it.</p>
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		<title>By: The Future Of Wireless Technology &#124; 101 Internet Answers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Future Of Wireless Technology &#124; 101 Internet Answers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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