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		<title>By: When it Comes to Web Scale Go Cheap, Go Custom or Go Home &#8211; GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[When it Comes to Web Scale Go Cheap, Go Custom or Go Home &#8211; GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] For example, an audience member questioned the panel about any good columnar database stores beyond Hadoop, and Kevin Weil from Twitter explained that there were some closed source options out there, but [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: NoSQL meetup, report &#124; Zemanta Ltd.</title>
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		<title>By: Is Hadoop Champion Cloudera the Next Red Hat?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Desktop. It&#8217;s a graphical interface for managing Hadoop, the open-source framework that is catalyzing the data mining renaissance. Cloudera&#8217;s Hadoop now works on almost all major cloud platforms: Amazon Web Services, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Sailesh Krishnamurthy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sailesh Krishnamurthy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gary

You&#039;re absolutely correct that it&#039;s very hard to accomplish anything
like a true real-time workflow with Hadoop or indeed with any MPP
system.

One approach that you point out is to separate the actual analysis of
data (say using a Hadoop process) from its use (the instantaneous
lookup).

While this is certainly a step in the right direction it solves only
half of the problem and does not attack the fundamental issue of
accomplishing the analytics itself in a high-throughput low-latency
fashion. The reason for this is quite simple: MPP systems like Hadoop
are designed for very high scalability and accomplish this via
brute-force parallelism. As a result while it&#039;s possible to get very
high throughput from such systems, the associated overheads (mainly
communication) are crippling unless amortized over very large batches
of data.

At Truviso (http://www.truviso.com) we are pioneering a continuous
analytics approach attacks both halves of this problem by decoupling
the analysis and the use of the data much as you point out with your
suggestive search example.

Sailesh Krishnamurthy
Truviso]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely correct that it&#8217;s very hard to accomplish anything<br />
like a true real-time workflow with Hadoop or indeed with any MPP<br />
system.</p>
<p>One approach that you point out is to separate the actual analysis of<br />
data (say using a Hadoop process) from its use (the instantaneous<br />
lookup).</p>
<p>While this is certainly a step in the right direction it solves only<br />
half of the problem and does not attack the fundamental issue of<br />
accomplishing the analytics itself in a high-throughput low-latency<br />
fashion. The reason for this is quite simple: MPP systems like Hadoop<br />
are designed for very high scalability and accomplish this via<br />
brute-force parallelism. As a result while it&#8217;s possible to get very<br />
high throughput from such systems, the associated overheads (mainly<br />
communication) are crippling unless amortized over very large batches<br />
of data.</p>
<p>At Truviso (<a href="http://www.truviso.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.truviso.com</a>) we are pioneering a continuous<br />
analytics approach attacks both halves of this problem by decoupling<br />
the analysis and the use of the data much as you point out with your<br />
suggestive search example.</p>
<p>Sailesh Krishnamurthy<br />
Truviso</p>
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		<title>By: WebDesignExpert.Me</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WebDesignExpert.Me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think hadoop may work well in addition to &quot;nosql&quot; database like cassandra, google bigtable etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think hadoop may work well in addition to &#8220;nosql&#8221; database like cassandra, google bigtable etc.</p>
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