Comments on: Palm Kills WinMo as Pre Loses Momentum

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Sprint Bet On the Wrong Smartphone — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:37:41 +0000

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Will the Pre Bask in a Verizon Ad Blitz? — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:39:49 +0000

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By: zunguri

zunguri — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:51:16 +0000

What lack of insight! I’ll bet when you see a road sign you think, “Gee, it was sure lucky they built this road right here next to this sign!”

Let’s see, Palm spends years playing with different OS’s with only moderate success.
They release their own WebOS and a device using it.
Then they change their OS strategy to de-resource other OSs.

Sound to me like they think they have a winner and they want to put all their resources on it.

It must be quite profitable for anyone to play power with you.

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By: Zacqary Adam Green

Zacqary Adam Green — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:54:05 +0000

Well, I guess this means that Palm…*Puts on sunglasses*…is post-Pre.

YEEAHHHHHHHHHH!

By: nixtr

nixtr — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:48:46 +0000

Another iphone killer runs into the wall. I don’t doubt that there will continue to be a niche market for the pre, but it is only going to play catchup to Apple indefinitely, since it tries to sync with itunes and uses that as a marketing play. Apple will just keep throwing them curveballs and so they are left stranded on the W7 platform, which is a big question mark. If I HAD to use W7, I would want the pre, since it is the most aesthetically pleasing version of a non-Apple OS.

but fortunately I don’t.

By: Waitingfor Thenextshoe

Waitingfor Thenextshoe — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:28:17 +0000

Minor correction – Palm management said the Pre was the “vast majority of the sell-in and sell-through activity”. When an analyst questioned that by saying “you mean the Pre was the vast majority of sell-in and the Pre was the vast majority of sell-through” management (CFO) said “We didn’t say that; we said it was the vast majority of sell-in and sell-through activity”.

Though they didn’t give any of the crucial Pre numbers, we can assume the sell-IN was for sure “vast majority Pre”. However, their denial of what was said shouts out that the “vast majority of sell-THROUGH” for sure was NOT Pre. The math, of course, still works out to give Pre “vast majority” status if the sell-in numbers were heavily Pre (for bogus example: total “activity” was 1,640,000. If Pre sell-in was 600,000 and Pre sell-through was 400,000 then total Pre activity would have been 1,000,000 which one could ambiguously call “:vast majority”. Yes, that sell-through is horrible.

Another aside – the analysts gave a huge range of estimates but, more importantly, some were talking sell-in and some were talking sell-through. You had to read carefully, usually more than one source, to figure what they were in particular talking about.

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Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:33:49 +0000

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By: Louis

Louis — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:32:10 +0000

“The PALM of today is RIMM of 2002″ – really? Then who is the Apple of 2002?

By: Palm Kills WinMo as Pre Loses Momentum Software Rss

Palm Kills WinMo as Pre Loses Momentum Software Rss — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:38:09 +0000

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By: Bartolo

Bartolo — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:25:00 +0000

This article is short sighted.

Palm has only released one WebOS device, in one carrier in one country. Their GSM release is coming up and that will greatly expand WebOS market footprint. I also assume that not too long from now you´ll start seeing many more WebOS devices all over the place.

It takes a lot of effort and time to get a new platform on the market and convince people to get onboard. Developers,consumers.. WebOS is a great platform, Palm has extensive experience pumping out handsets into the market, they should do just fine, give them some time.

By: HSK

HSK — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:14:11 +0000

Based on their size (as well as their hopes and dreams), this does not surprise me at all. I was expecting this from Palm. I got a Pre the day it came out and had it for 3 weeks. I did not like th hardware and did not want to wait on some of the core software improvements I thought it needed (for me anyway). But I was really impressed with the core functionality of webOS. Hopefully it will survive and evolve over the next year and I may come back to it.

But the bigger issue is market penetration. They need to get it out to more carriers globally. I really thought the Pixie was going to be on another carrier but Sprint gets first dibs on that one too.

By: News to Us: Palm Drops WinMo, Google Ad Exchange, Federation of Studios and More « MobileBehavior

Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:09:17 +0000

[...] Palm Kills WinMo as Pre Loses Momentum | GigaOm Trying to stay afloat in the smartphone market, Palm is ditching Windows Mobile and placing its bets on its own webOS. Windows Mobile has been losing market share, this move ends their five year long relationship. [...]

By: gbp

gbp — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:44:14 +0000

Couldn’t agree with you more. The PALM of today is RIMM of 2002

I hit up on this info, which says RIMM had 1400 employees in 2002.

http://www.ethicscan.ca/products_services/research/company_information_reports/EthicScan_Profile01.pdf

Motorola did abandon the WinMo Support.

And hired Android programmers.
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/04/139226

PALM Pre is in its own league in the software (UI) side, the hardware could be improved up on. Jon & Co can come up with a rock solid update in a year or so.

By: gbp

gbp — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:32:10 +0000

at what price point ?
Nokia’s phones are cheap ones , and the expensive ones like N97 are sold not that much.