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	<title>Comments on: Who Invested How Much to Buy Skype</title>
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		<title>By: go-skype-go</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/02/who-invested-how-much-to-buy-skype/#comment-223188</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[go-skype-go]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a summary of the dispute and court filings from TMCnet (apologies for all of the pop-ups/ads, but the text is succinct and explanatory): http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2009/04/01/4101944.htm

It&#039;s perfectly logical that Ebay did not seek to acquire the rights to the underlying IP in order to avoid legal liabilities for KaZaA, Sharman, etc.  I suspect it was a fairly straightforward discussion and tactic for Skype to sell the company to Ebay with a &quot;perpetual&quot; license back for the underlying technology.  Only when Joltid (owned by JF/NZ) decided to terminate that license (citing breach/violation of terms by Skype [ie back-stab]) did it become an obvious [glaringly so] issue.

Also interesting, here&#039;s an article from September 2005 which first points to potential concerns/issue about the IP (but no one paid much attention to it at the time): http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/239324/court_wrangling_haunts_skypes_ragstoriches_story/index.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a summary of the dispute and court filings from TMCnet (apologies for all of the pop-ups/ads, but the text is succinct and explanatory): <a href="http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2009/04/01/4101944.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2009/04/01/4101944.htm</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s perfectly logical that Ebay did not seek to acquire the rights to the underlying IP in order to avoid legal liabilities for KaZaA, Sharman, etc.  I suspect it was a fairly straightforward discussion and tactic for Skype to sell the company to Ebay with a &#8220;perpetual&#8221; license back for the underlying technology.  Only when Joltid (owned by JF/NZ) decided to terminate that license (citing breach/violation of terms by Skype [ie back-stab]) did it become an obvious [glaringly so] issue.</p>
<p>Also interesting, here&#8217;s an article from September 2005 which first points to potential concerns/issue about the IP (but no one paid much attention to it at the time): <a href="http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/239324/court_wrangling_haunts_skypes_ragstoriches_story/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/239324/court_wrangling_haunts_skypes_ragstoriches_story/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ajolie1</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/02/who-invested-how-much-to-buy-skype/#comment-223187</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And Meg wants to be governor of CA?

Maybe she&#039;ll propose buying skype (again) to reduce driving in CA an save the environment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Meg wants to be governor of CA?</p>
<p>Maybe she&#8217;ll propose buying skype (again) to reduce driving in CA an save the environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Murphy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/02/who-invested-how-much-to-buy-skype/#comment-223186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks a lot for the additional links.  I did click through Om&#039;s previous posts too.
Any comments from more  experienced readers with M&amp;A or legal background would be appreciated.

 Is this simply a bet by SilverLake and partners that their lawyers are better and pockets are deeper than the founders?

If they can solve the legal issue, I absolutely love the opportunity!  I can come up with 10 ideas in 10 minutes on how to monetize Skype users at a rate that is more than $5 per head.  They could blow out the CEBP/Telco 2.0 space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for the additional links.  I did click through Om&#8217;s previous posts too.<br />
Any comments from more  experienced readers with M&amp;A or legal background would be appreciated.</p>
<p> Is this simply a bet by SilverLake and partners that their lawyers are better and pockets are deeper than the founders?</p>
<p>If they can solve the legal issue, I absolutely love the opportunity!  I can come up with 10 ideas in 10 minutes on how to monetize Skype users at a rate that is more than $5 per head.  They could blow out the CEBP/Telco 2.0 space.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/02/who-invested-how-much-to-buy-skype/#comment-223185</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good questions.  I&#039;ve seen quotes attributed to Skype folks saying the company is putting a lot of resources into building around the Janus/Friis IP.

http://skypejournal.com/2009/07/skype-races-to-replace-joltid-p2p-by.html - This article defines the disputed technology, loosely, as &quot;P2P technology&quot;, and goes on to discuss what P2P technology does for Skype (in short, give Skype the world&#039;s low-cost telecoms architecture).  SIP-like functions may be part of this, but the patents are probably a lot broader than session control.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&amp;sid=ark5.p.p7yxA - In this article, a Skype rep says losing access to the Joltid technology would shut down Skype.  NFW Silverlake invests in Skype without knowing this problem can be solved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good questions.  I&#8217;ve seen quotes attributed to Skype folks saying the company is putting a lot of resources into building around the Janus/Friis IP.</p>
<p><a href="http://skypejournal.com/2009/07/skype-races-to-replace-joltid-p2p-by.html" rel="nofollow">http://skypejournal.com/2009/07/skype-races-to-replace-joltid-p2p-by.html</a> &#8211; This article defines the disputed technology, loosely, as &#8220;P2P technology&#8221;, and goes on to discuss what P2P technology does for Skype (in short, give Skype the world&#8217;s low-cost telecoms architecture).  SIP-like functions may be part of this, but the patents are probably a lot broader than session control.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&#038;sid=ark5.p.p7yxA" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&#038;sid=ark5.p.p7yxA</a> &#8211; In this article, a Skype rep says losing access to the Joltid technology would shut down Skype.  NFW Silverlake invests in Skype without knowing this problem can be solved.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Murphy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/02/who-invested-how-much-to-buy-skype/#comment-223184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone have any real background on the intellectual property fight? Is it an EU versus US interpretation of intellectual property law?  What does the dispute cover technically?  Can Skype overcome it by moving to SIP for example?

Pointing to previous articles  would be helpful. It feels like the elephant in the room that no one really wants to talk about.
Thanks for the great work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have any real background on the intellectual property fight? Is it an EU versus US interpretation of intellectual property law?  What does the dispute cover technically?  Can Skype overcome it by moving to SIP for example?</p>
<p>Pointing to previous articles  would be helpful. It feels like the elephant in the room that no one really wants to talk about.<br />
Thanks for the great work.</p>
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		<title>By: bobby dassler</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/09/02/who-invested-how-much-to-buy-skype/#comment-223183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobby dassler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 09:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is good news! Now the Skype team can get back to the innovation we saw before the ebay acquisition.
Can&#039;t wait to see the dev relations plan!! Skype is dead, long live Skype!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good news! Now the Skype team can get back to the innovation we saw before the ebay acquisition.<br />
Can&#8217;t wait to see the dev relations plan!! Skype is dead, long live Skype!</p>
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