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		<title>By: Eyeing the Cloud, VMware Looks to Double Down On Virtualization Efficiency &#8211; GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/30/is-virtualization-a-cloud-prerequisite/#comment-222806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eyeing the Cloud, VMware Looks to Double Down On Virtualization Efficiency &#8211; GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] characterized virtualization as &#8220;the on-ramp to cloud computing,&#8221; and, in many ways, a prerequisite for it. He said VMware has more than 1,000 partners focused on cloud computing solutions, ranging from [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] characterized virtualization as &#8220;the on-ramp to cloud computing,&#8221; and, in many ways, a prerequisite for it. He said VMware has more than 1,000 partners focused on cloud computing solutions, ranging from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Self-Managing distributed applications &#124; Lambert on Development</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Self-Managing distributed applications &#124; Lambert on Development]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeff Darcy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Darcy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IMO virtualization is not an essential, defining characteristic of cloud computing - but it is an enabling technology.  Cloud computing is about the flexibility to create, destroy and relocate resources on demand.  One can do that with a pool of physical servers, but greater provisioning difficulty and whole-machine granularity make the result a lot less appealing to users.  Many cloud providers offer instances as low as a single 2GHz core with 256MB memory and 10GB of storage, which can be handy for testing or for the lower-horsepower parts of a multi-system complex, but it&#039;s not very economical to offer such small instances without virtualization.  Even though cloud computing and virtualization don&#039;t strictly have to go together, there is a certain synergy between them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO virtualization is not an essential, defining characteristic of cloud computing &#8211; but it is an enabling technology.  Cloud computing is about the flexibility to create, destroy and relocate resources on demand.  One can do that with a pool of physical servers, but greater provisioning difficulty and whole-machine granularity make the result a lot less appealing to users.  Many cloud providers offer instances as low as a single 2GHz core with 256MB memory and 10GB of storage, which can be handy for testing or for the lower-horsepower parts of a multi-system complex, but it&#8217;s not very economical to offer such small instances without virtualization.  Even though cloud computing and virtualization don&#8217;t strictly have to go together, there is a certain synergy between them.</p>
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		<title>By: VMware Wants to Provide the OS for the Cloud</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VMware Wants to Provide the OS for the Cloud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] everyone thinks virtualization is a key component of a cloud or of operating a data center as a computer, but the fact of the matter is that virtualization is [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Randy Clark, CMO, Platform Computing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy Clark, CMO, Platform Computing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great comments all around! Let me add some additional insight from our customer activities to help frame the discussion: only 10% of the private IaaS cloud pilots we’re involved with are using non-virtual environments. BUT: of the 90% that are starting with virtualized use cases, 80% of them are planning to add non-virtual apps into their cloud. So customers are generally starting with the virtualized low hanging fruit to prove the cloud business model (with additional capabilities such as dynamic provisioning, self-service, service-offering definition, contracts, and billing) – and then expanding their infrastructure offerings to serve a broader set of application groups.

So I emphatically agree that virtualization is not cloud – and this is why architects are seeking out technology-agnostic cloud management solutions that can allocate a variety of application workloads across any collection of hardware, operating systems, virtual machines, storage and networking. This is the only way to maximize existing resources and future infrastructure investments while avoiding vendor lock-in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments all around! Let me add some additional insight from our customer activities to help frame the discussion: only 10% of the private IaaS cloud pilots we’re involved with are using non-virtual environments. BUT: of the 90% that are starting with virtualized use cases, 80% of them are planning to add non-virtual apps into their cloud. So customers are generally starting with the virtualized low hanging fruit to prove the cloud business model (with additional capabilities such as dynamic provisioning, self-service, service-offering definition, contracts, and billing) – and then expanding their infrastructure offerings to serve a broader set of application groups.</p>
<p>So I emphatically agree that virtualization is not cloud – and this is why architects are seeking out technology-agnostic cloud management solutions that can allocate a variety of application workloads across any collection of hardware, operating systems, virtual machines, storage and networking. This is the only way to maximize existing resources and future infrastructure investments while avoiding vendor lock-in.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/30/is-virtualization-a-cloud-prerequisite/#comment-222801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of the answers to these questions are not of a technical nature.

Virtualisation can mean different things to different people in different scenarios however placed in the hands of the marketing department the term becomes interchangable.

So you could argue that a cloud based service is virtual in that it lives &quot;in the cloud&quot; and not in your office. This has nothing to do with stuff like VMware.

But the problem is that the IT world went for a number of years without anything really very new.

VMware (and others) came along with something rather clever that met a real need however the marketing people (and others) hyped it to a level unseen for many years. In reality this kind of virtualisation is just a tool that meets some real IT challenges.

But the hype started.

So then along came the likes of Citrix who brought is desktop virtualisation (VDI). Again this got caught up in the virtualisation hype (with a fair degree of band wagon jumping) and suddenly a technology that Citrix (and others) had been pushing for many years was the next great thing again.

But just as the hypervisor was about to become a commodity, the cloud came along and again the marketing team saw a new opportunity and a way to save their margins.

Let us not forget that the biggest player in the hypervisor space is also owned by a company famed for the qualities of it&#039;s marketing engine who have for many years been able to persuade big business to buy over priced disks that are no better than anybody else.

Virtualisation has many meanings however all those marketing departments have a vested interest to see those meanings all mixed together in order to maintain margins on something that should be a commodity.

Can you tell why a certain vendor has not invited me to San Francisco this week?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of the answers to these questions are not of a technical nature.</p>
<p>Virtualisation can mean different things to different people in different scenarios however placed in the hands of the marketing department the term becomes interchangable.</p>
<p>So you could argue that a cloud based service is virtual in that it lives &#8220;in the cloud&#8221; and not in your office. This has nothing to do with stuff like VMware.</p>
<p>But the problem is that the IT world went for a number of years without anything really very new.</p>
<p>VMware (and others) came along with something rather clever that met a real need however the marketing people (and others) hyped it to a level unseen for many years. In reality this kind of virtualisation is just a tool that meets some real IT challenges.</p>
<p>But the hype started.</p>
<p>So then along came the likes of Citrix who brought is desktop virtualisation (VDI). Again this got caught up in the virtualisation hype (with a fair degree of band wagon jumping) and suddenly a technology that Citrix (and others) had been pushing for many years was the next great thing again.</p>
<p>But just as the hypervisor was about to become a commodity, the cloud came along and again the marketing team saw a new opportunity and a way to save their margins.</p>
<p>Let us not forget that the biggest player in the hypervisor space is also owned by a company famed for the qualities of it&#8217;s marketing engine who have for many years been able to persuade big business to buy over priced disks that are no better than anybody else.</p>
<p>Virtualisation has many meanings however all those marketing departments have a vested interest to see those meanings all mixed together in order to maintain margins on something that should be a commodity.</p>
<p>Can you tell why a certain vendor has not invited me to San Francisco this week?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Graham</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/30/is-virtualization-a-cloud-prerequisite/#comment-222800</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Graham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cloud computing does NOT require the use of virtualization.  It may seem that it does because so many public and private clouds depend on virtualization tools.  But these are two distinct markets and technologies with wonderous futures ahead of them.

But consider the Software-as-a-Service [SaaS] cloud vendors.  Do all SaaS vendors use virtualization?  Most do and any one of them that needs to truly scale to huge server farms probably do.  But the startups don’t need virtualization – they have more important issues on their mind. And it’s entirely feasible to buy a huge server and storage farm to support a few dozen multi-tenant subscriber companies without any virtualization software.

Let’s say that a business user needs a database for analytics (a data mart).  Imagine a user fills in a browser screen with what they need and the application locates a server-storage pair to allocate it for them and hand them back a URL link.  The user could then start proof of concept testing or sand box analytics, never knowing where or what the database is running on.  This would be an internal private cloud service.  The database itself is an abstraction somewhere out in a private cloud.  Like the SaaS vendor, it could be one of a few dozen databases on one big server and storage farm.  The database is a virtual concept, probably running on a multi-tenant server, all handled via self service capacity on demand.  Some database products merely partition an existing database for multitenant and again, the user or developer need not know.

Virtualization is, of course, useful when managing huge server and storage farms.   As cloud servers start scaling up, virtualization is often what helps IT preserve their sanity and keep costs down.  I’m 100% in favor of virtualization.  But I have to agree with the IBM comment.  “Many people equate cloud computing to virtualization. It is not virtualization.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cloud computing does NOT require the use of virtualization.  It may seem that it does because so many public and private clouds depend on virtualization tools.  But these are two distinct markets and technologies with wonderous futures ahead of them.</p>
<p>But consider the Software-as-a-Service [SaaS] cloud vendors.  Do all SaaS vendors use virtualization?  Most do and any one of them that needs to truly scale to huge server farms probably do.  But the startups don’t need virtualization – they have more important issues on their mind. And it’s entirely feasible to buy a huge server and storage farm to support a few dozen multi-tenant subscriber companies without any virtualization software.</p>
<p>Let’s say that a business user needs a database for analytics (a data mart).  Imagine a user fills in a browser screen with what they need and the application locates a server-storage pair to allocate it for them and hand them back a URL link.  The user could then start proof of concept testing or sand box analytics, never knowing where or what the database is running on.  This would be an internal private cloud service.  The database itself is an abstraction somewhere out in a private cloud.  Like the SaaS vendor, it could be one of a few dozen databases on one big server and storage farm.  The database is a virtual concept, probably running on a multi-tenant server, all handled via self service capacity on demand.  Some database products merely partition an existing database for multitenant and again, the user or developer need not know.</p>
<p>Virtualization is, of course, useful when managing huge server and storage farms.   As cloud servers start scaling up, virtualization is often what helps IT preserve their sanity and keep costs down.  I’m 100% in favor of virtualization.  But I have to agree with the IBM comment.  “Many people equate cloud computing to virtualization. It is not virtualization.”</p>
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		<title>By: Guo Du</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/30/is-virtualization-a-cloud-prerequisite/#comment-222799</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guo Du]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If your code doesn&#039;t have tight hardware related code, it could be run smoothly on virtualized environment such as VMWare or EC2.

But virtualization add another layer of complicity. That is why twitter and other high traffic system doesn&#039;t buy it. In general, cloud computing price plan is higher than dedicated hosting, another reason for twitter to not go cloud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your code doesn&#8217;t have tight hardware related code, it could be run smoothly on virtualized environment such as VMWare or EC2.</p>
<p>But virtualization add another layer of complicity. That is why twitter and other high traffic system doesn&#8217;t buy it. In general, cloud computing price plan is higher than dedicated hosting, another reason for twitter to not go cloud.</p>
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		<title>By: Is Virtualization a Cloud Prerequisite? &#171; NewServers: Bare Metal Cloud</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/30/is-virtualization-a-cloud-prerequisite/#comment-222798</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is Virtualization a Cloud Prerequisite? &#171; NewServers: Bare Metal Cloud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Small Biz Keeps It In-House, Not Crazy About the Cloud</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Small Biz Keeps It In-House, Not Crazy About the Cloud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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