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		<title>By: Cash Prizes &#187; Murdoch Sees Eventual &#8216;Break&#8217; With Amazon Over Kindle; &#8216;Active&#8217; Talks With Sony</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cash Prizes &#187; Murdoch Sees Eventual &#8216;Break&#8217; With Amazon Over Kindle; &#8216;Active&#8217; Talks With Sony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: New Media demands a new kind of media company &#171; TheWaterRat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Media demands a new kind of media company &#171; TheWaterRat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] of “old media” companies trying to succeed online. Pundits debate the possible return of “pay walls” to the web, the prospects for “freemium” products that coax some subscription revenue from a [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: New Media Demands a New Kind of Media Company</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Media Demands a New Kind of Media Company]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of “old media” companies trying to succeed online. Pundits debate the possible return of “pay walls” to the web, the prospects for “freemium” products that coax some subscription revenue from a [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Links: 9 August 2009</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Links: 9 August 2009]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] GigaOM: News Corp. and the great not-free experiment. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Gurner</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220224</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gurner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, there is absolutely no quality to any News Corp output, its some of the most biased, bigotted, sometime sexist, racist, xenophobic tripe out there]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, there is absolutely no quality to any News Corp output, its some of the most biased, bigotted, sometime sexist, racist, xenophobic tripe out there</p>
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		<title>By: Venkatesh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Venkatesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is any of the commentators advocating free acontent creator here? Why is Google charging for advertising if cost of ad delivery is almost zero? Shouldn&#039;t that be free too? Why should one pay for advertising in google ?

Good content creators deserve a good living which is not dependant on ad revenues from the echo chambers of blogs which feed of on original reporting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is any of the commentators advocating free acontent creator here? Why is Google charging for advertising if cost of ad delivery is almost zero? Shouldn&#8217;t that be free too? Why should one pay for advertising in google ?</p>
<p>Good content creators deserve a good living which is not dependant on ad revenues from the echo chambers of blogs which feed of on original reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: babyis60</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[babyis60]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Murdoch has been through this before - bet the company on a &#039;users will subscribe&#039; strategy and won big time.

He transformed the UK&#039;s TV landscape, setting up a subscription only platform when there were existing free (both state sponsored and advertizing backed) alternatives. Sky now has 9 million subscribers - (that&#039;s at least a third of the possible UK market).

He played a long game, paying huge amounts for exclusive rights to &#039;must have&#039; content
(live soccer initially)
forcing fans to subscribe. He then branched out from that loyal base to get the rest of us.

The situation with news on the web isn&#039;t identical, but don&#039;t underestimate Murdoch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murdoch has been through this before &#8211; bet the company on a &#8216;users will subscribe&#8217; strategy and won big time.</p>
<p>He transformed the UK&#8217;s TV landscape, setting up a subscription only platform when there were existing free (both state sponsored and advertizing backed) alternatives. Sky now has 9 million subscribers &#8211; (that&#8217;s at least a third of the possible UK market).</p>
<p>He played a long game, paying huge amounts for exclusive rights to &#8216;must have&#8217; content<br />
(live soccer initially)<br />
forcing fans to subscribe. He then branched out from that loyal base to get the rest of us.</p>
<p>The situation with news on the web isn&#8217;t identical, but don&#8217;t underestimate Murdoch.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Kopelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This whole discussion is based on a false premise. Web news sites are not free, they are supported by advertising -- just like TV and Radio news! I don&#039;t hear anyone arguing that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News should follow the Bloomberg model and become subscription networks. Given that the distribution costs of Web News is more like TV and Radio than Print, why wouldn&#039;t it use the former business models rather than the latter? It seems like the subtext here is the idea that companies need to increase Web News revenues to offset declines in Print News revenues. Why? What does one have to do with the other, from a purely business perspective?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole discussion is based on a false premise. Web news sites are not free, they are supported by advertising &#8212; just like TV and Radio news! I don&#8217;t hear anyone arguing that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News should follow the Bloomberg model and become subscription networks. Given that the distribution costs of Web News is more like TV and Radio than Print, why wouldn&#8217;t it use the former business models rather than the latter? It seems like the subtext here is the idea that companies need to increase Web News revenues to offset declines in Print News revenues. Why? What does one have to do with the other, from a purely business perspective?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jordan,
I look at this a bit differently.

First, as evident by the NY times (sub to free model now) and the WSJ (free to sub to free back to sub model), i think we will come back to free for the following reasons:
a) quality journalism is becoming highly fragmented and is no longer owned by large institutions
b) bloggers, such as yourself, develop an expertise and like it or not, your commenters and followers such as myself, expect you to be a quality journalist (eventhough you are a blogger and may not identify yourself as a journalist, i submit, your readers expect it)
c) you and Om and Brian Lam&#039;s team at Giz (p.s. i am not lam eventhough we share the first name), are supplanting the journalists of these large institutions and are specialized, recognized as the experts for interest areas.

Thus, people like myself and others not technically adept, simply close the tab or window when presented with a log-in/subscription at these major media outlets - or google it. Only the highly attached followers with pay for the sub model, which is an decreasingly smaller pie.

Sorry Murdoch, but I think you might want to try a different model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan,<br />
I look at this a bit differently.</p>
<p>First, as evident by the NY times (sub to free model now) and the WSJ (free to sub to free back to sub model), i think we will come back to free for the following reasons:<br />
a) quality journalism is becoming highly fragmented and is no longer owned by large institutions<br />
b) bloggers, such as yourself, develop an expertise and like it or not, your commenters and followers such as myself, expect you to be a quality journalist (eventhough you are a blogger and may not identify yourself as a journalist, i submit, your readers expect it)<br />
c) you and Om and Brian Lam&#8217;s team at Giz (p.s. i am not lam eventhough we share the first name), are supplanting the journalists of these large institutions and are specialized, recognized as the experts for interest areas.</p>
<p>Thus, people like myself and others not technically adept, simply close the tab or window when presented with a log-in/subscription at these major media outlets &#8211; or google it. Only the highly attached followers with pay for the sub model, which is an decreasingly smaller pie.</p>
<p>Sorry Murdoch, but I think you might want to try a different model.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo Kilma</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mo Kilma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then he needs to get out of the newspaper business. Buying WSJ for an inflated price is not going to help him turn a profit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then he needs to get out of the newspaper business. Buying WSJ for an inflated price is not going to help him turn a profit.</p>
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		<title>By: digitalgenerator</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220218</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[digitalgenerator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He can charge if he wants - but will people pay?

It will be fascinating to watch how this affects his advertising revenues, in the short term who will advertise with him (especially if the readers disappear).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He can charge if he wants &#8211; but will people pay?</p>
<p>It will be fascinating to watch how this affects his advertising revenues, in the short term who will advertise with him (especially if the readers disappear).</p>
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		<title>By: Yuvamani</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220217</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yuvamani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Murdoch can make it work, then good.

The reality is even if I do not get access to &quot;high quality&quot; journalism. I will have access to lower quality rereports which are you know free. I will just ignore the WSJ. It will not cost me much.

I dont see myself paying for news when I get the same from cnn.com and twitter.com for free. And there is also no convenience factor (whcih is why i pay for iTunes music)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Murdoch can make it work, then good.</p>
<p>The reality is even if I do not get access to &#8220;high quality&#8221; journalism. I will have access to lower quality rereports which are you know free. I will just ignore the WSJ. It will not cost me much.</p>
<p>I dont see myself paying for news when I get the same from cnn.com and twitter.com for free. And there is also no convenience factor (whcih is why i pay for iTunes music)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Yokitis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220216</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Yokitis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although, like everyone, I appreciate freebies, I&#039;m troubled by what I percieve as the common expectation that nearly everything on the internet should be free.  If you want an internet connection you should pay for the pipe, and if others are paying reporters, editors, photographers, etc to keep a news organization going, then I think it would be presumptious to expect to recieve that service at no-charge.

If they can make a no-charge business model work via ad revenue or some other means, great.  But lets not be shocked if we&#039;re actually asked to pay for services that we recieve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although, like everyone, I appreciate freebies, I&#8217;m troubled by what I percieve as the common expectation that nearly everything on the internet should be free.  If you want an internet connection you should pay for the pipe, and if others are paying reporters, editors, photographers, etc to keep a news organization going, then I think it would be presumptious to expect to recieve that service at no-charge.</p>
<p>If they can make a no-charge business model work via ad revenue or some other means, great.  But lets not be shocked if we&#8217;re actually asked to pay for services that we recieve.</p>
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		<title>By: Berryhill rallies to win first game at American Legion Baseball &#8211; Midland Daily News &#171; Video Game News Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Berryhill rallies to win first game at American Legion Baseball &#8211; Midland Daily News &#171; Video Game News Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] News Corp. and the Great Not-Free Experiment &#8211; Gigaom.comRupert Murdoch is picking up his toys from the playground and going home, and kicking sand at the “free” model touted by Wired’s Chris Anderson on the way out. The News Corp. chairman has announced that, due to poor advertising revenue on the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] News Corp. and the Great Not-Free Experiment &#8211; Gigaom.comRupert Murdoch is picking up his toys from the playground and going home, and kicking sand at the “free” model touted by Wired’s Chris Anderson on the way out. The News Corp. chairman has announced that, due to poor advertising revenue on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NeoTechie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220214</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NeoTechie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all respect, Mr. Murdock there are other alternative for FREE new on the internet.
Free is the new and evolving business model. Sir, ask yourself  What would Google do.
If you want to know read the book entitle exactly that What Would Google do.

What business are you in advertising or news. Everyone has to make money
but charging for what is free all over the internet may need some  rethinking.
Increasing your traffic maybe the key.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all respect, Mr. Murdock there are other alternative for FREE new on the internet.<br />
Free is the new and evolving business model. Sir, ask yourself  What would Google do.<br />
If you want to know read the book entitle exactly that What Would Google do.</p>
<p>What business are you in advertising or news. Everyone has to make money<br />
but charging for what is free all over the internet may need some  rethinking.<br />
Increasing your traffic maybe the key.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Golson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/08/06/news-corp-and-the-great-not-free-experiment/#comment-220213</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan Golson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, but he doesn&#039;t want user headcount. He wants profit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but he doesn&#8217;t want user headcount. He wants profit.</p>
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