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		<title>By: Rural broadband = more jobs, better salaries &#124; linkthe.com</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rural broadband = more jobs, better salaries &#124; linkthe.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/07/01/can-the-free-market-provide-broadband-for-everyone/#comment-215719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I forgot to mention.  I used to commute every day and had no problem with the long drive until fuel prices went up.  I asked about DSL service and was told they would intall it if I could get 20 subscribers.  I had to wait a while for that to happen.  I have saved thousands not spent on gas since I was able to get DSL.

I agree with some things you say about governement making things more expensive and messing things up.  Keep in mind at one time a tax was enacted to provide phone service to rural customers. The same could be done for broadband.  It would be a very small charge to expand the infrastructure.

Maybe you don&#039;t need high speed data tansfer rates, but I do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention.  I used to commute every day and had no problem with the long drive until fuel prices went up.  I asked about DSL service and was told they would intall it if I could get 20 subscribers.  I had to wait a while for that to happen.  I have saved thousands not spent on gas since I was able to get DSL.</p>
<p>I agree with some things you say about governement making things more expensive and messing things up.  Keep in mind at one time a tax was enacted to provide phone service to rural customers. The same could be done for broadband.  It would be a very small charge to expand the infrastructure.</p>
<p>Maybe you don&#8217;t need high speed data tansfer rates, but I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/07/01/can-the-free-market-provide-broadband-for-everyone/#comment-215718</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Broadband is necessary for many people to do their work.  I work from home and provide on call support for hundreds of web and database servers.  The file sizes I deal with are way too big for a slow dial up connection.  Just the files I upload to vendors to diagnose a problem can be several MB to over  1GB in size.  Sometimes I have to download patches and then upload them to a server.  Dial up or low speed connections will not handle that amount of data fast enough.  We are expected to keep the apps and servers running 24 hours a day.  Money is lost if they are down.  The alternative would be to drive to the office almost every time there is an outage not during regular office hours like in the old days.  That could cause lengthy delays in getting the apps back working again.

Do you ever shop online?  Try downloading a web page at 56KB vs 5MB DSL.  The amount of data being pushed is growing all the time.  Do you check the weather online?  Do you read news online?  Have you renewed your drivers license online?  There is a wealth of information avialable online.  There are many things we do that were not possible at the slower dial up speeds.

I support servers all over the country. I am able to work from home and do pretty much anything on the servers I can at the office with the exception of physically touching the hardware.  When gas hit above $4 a gallon, I started working from home as much as possible.  I save gas, time, and money using broadband to keep from driving.

Where do I live?  In what you might call the boonies, miles from most infrastructure (over 10 miles from a stop light).  I am fortunate to have good stable DSL service.  I choose to live here, becausue I enjoy not being in the traffic and overcrowded big cities.

I have more choices for employment and where to live because of broadband.  It&#039;s less expensive to live where I do, and I can go outside without nosy neighbors staring at me to see what I am doing.  I also don&#039;t have a homeowner&#039;s association telling me what I can park in my driveway.  I live here by choice.  Broadband makes it possible to do my job from a remote location.

As far as wireless access goes.  In this area the infrastructure doesn&#039;t support a good enough signal for me to use it.

Broadband opens up opportunities.  It allows flexibility in employment and work hours.  People can work from home instead of wasting so much time and gas commuting every day.

I agree that not everyone &quot;needs&quot; broadband, but there are a lot of us that are much more productive because of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broadband is necessary for many people to do their work.  I work from home and provide on call support for hundreds of web and database servers.  The file sizes I deal with are way too big for a slow dial up connection.  Just the files I upload to vendors to diagnose a problem can be several MB to over  1GB in size.  Sometimes I have to download patches and then upload them to a server.  Dial up or low speed connections will not handle that amount of data fast enough.  We are expected to keep the apps and servers running 24 hours a day.  Money is lost if they are down.  The alternative would be to drive to the office almost every time there is an outage not during regular office hours like in the old days.  That could cause lengthy delays in getting the apps back working again.</p>
<p>Do you ever shop online?  Try downloading a web page at 56KB vs 5MB DSL.  The amount of data being pushed is growing all the time.  Do you check the weather online?  Do you read news online?  Have you renewed your drivers license online?  There is a wealth of information avialable online.  There are many things we do that were not possible at the slower dial up speeds.</p>
<p>I support servers all over the country. I am able to work from home and do pretty much anything on the servers I can at the office with the exception of physically touching the hardware.  When gas hit above $4 a gallon, I started working from home as much as possible.  I save gas, time, and money using broadband to keep from driving.</p>
<p>Where do I live?  In what you might call the boonies, miles from most infrastructure (over 10 miles from a stop light).  I am fortunate to have good stable DSL service.  I choose to live here, becausue I enjoy not being in the traffic and overcrowded big cities.</p>
<p>I have more choices for employment and where to live because of broadband.  It&#8217;s less expensive to live where I do, and I can go outside without nosy neighbors staring at me to see what I am doing.  I also don&#8217;t have a homeowner&#8217;s association telling me what I can park in my driveway.  I live here by choice.  Broadband makes it possible to do my job from a remote location.</p>
<p>As far as wireless access goes.  In this area the infrastructure doesn&#8217;t support a good enough signal for me to use it.</p>
<p>Broadband opens up opportunities.  It allows flexibility in employment and work hours.  People can work from home instead of wasting so much time and gas commuting every day.</p>
<p>I agree that not everyone &#8220;needs&#8221; broadband, but there are a lot of us that are much more productive because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/07/01/can-the-free-market-provide-broadband-for-everyone/#comment-215717</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Broadband should exclude 3G when it comes with strict data caps  that prevent the user from taking advantage of the Internet.  No matter the speed, I think it hard to classify something as broadband if you get a 5GB xfer cap/month]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Broadband should exclude 3G when it comes with strict data caps  that prevent the user from taking advantage of the Internet.  No matter the speed, I think it hard to classify something as broadband if you get a 5GB xfer cap/month</p>
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		<title>By: Accel Networks</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/07/01/can-the-free-market-provide-broadband-for-everyone/#comment-215716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Accel Networks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Broadband excludes 3G?  Really?  Or do you mean only for mobile devices?  I&#039;m pretty certain that 3G speeds for computers connecting via fixed wireless broadband classifies as broadband level.

This article goes into more detail on how it works: http://www.accel-networks.com/blog/2009/03/fixed-wireless-broadband-how-it-works.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broadband excludes 3G?  Really?  Or do you mean only for mobile devices?  I&#8217;m pretty certain that 3G speeds for computers connecting via fixed wireless broadband classifies as broadband level.</p>
<p>This article goes into more detail on how it works: <a href="http://www.accel-networks.com/blog/2009/03/fixed-wireless-broadband-how-it-works.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.accel-networks.com/blog/2009/03/fixed-wireless-broadband-how-it-works.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Arroyo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/07/01/can-the-free-market-provide-broadband-for-everyone/#comment-215715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan Arroyo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More and more countries are realizing the importance of Broadband wireless Networks.  I heard Wireless Guru Bobby Vassallo speak recently on the US lagging behind some other markets and the importance of cities becoming wireless without the help of the cable companies.   For a dollar a month added to your water bill, broadband can be had.  And, that beats $49.95 to Time Warner!  Some cities are going to this approach and it is an excellent one.  And, speeds are much better than having an Air Card from Sprint or someone else.

I hope more cities opt for this approach.  There is always an old lady who doesn&#039;t want the dollar added, but the greater good is served and kids without internet, suddenly have a new world opening up.
http://worldaidsdatabase.org  Jordan Arroyo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More and more countries are realizing the importance of Broadband wireless Networks.  I heard Wireless Guru Bobby Vassallo speak recently on the US lagging behind some other markets and the importance of cities becoming wireless without the help of the cable companies.   For a dollar a month added to your water bill, broadband can be had.  And, that beats $49.95 to Time Warner!  Some cities are going to this approach and it is an excellent one.  And, speeds are much better than having an Air Card from Sprint or someone else.</p>
<p>I hope more cities opt for this approach.  There is always an old lady who doesn&#8217;t want the dollar added, but the greater good is served and kids without internet, suddenly have a new world opening up.<br />
<a href="http://worldaidsdatabase.org" rel="nofollow">http://worldaidsdatabase.org</a>  Jordan Arroyo</p>
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		<title>By: Griffon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/07/01/can-the-free-market-provide-broadband-for-everyone/#comment-215714</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Griffon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure,
They, well... we, the tax payers, subsided the phone and cable and power infrastructure. Then, they, the government, gave it all away to private monopolies... at least this time we could cut out the middle step and just pour our tax dollars directly into one the (probable) current monopolies... No wait... I think we are doing that now, Huh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure,<br />
They, well&#8230; we, the tax payers, subsided the phone and cable and power infrastructure. Then, they, the government, gave it all away to private monopolies&#8230; at least this time we could cut out the middle step and just pour our tax dollars directly into one the (probable) current monopolies&#8230; No wait&#8230; I think we are doing that now, Huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/07/01/can-the-free-market-provide-broadband-for-everyone/#comment-215713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Kopelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You forgot the third solution -- Mandated Universal Service. This is what was done for landline telephony. If a carrier wanted access to the lucrative customers it also had to serve all the other customers in the region, including the ones that would result in an operational loss. If you want to serve the best part of San Fransisco, you&#039;ve also got to serve the worst part of Oakland -- and both with equal level of services. Universal Service doesn&#039;t currently apply to any data service (including IP telephony from incumbent landline carriers -- one of the advantages of FIOS to Verizon) -- Maybe it should?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot the third solution &#8212; Mandated Universal Service. This is what was done for landline telephony. If a carrier wanted access to the lucrative customers it also had to serve all the other customers in the region, including the ones that would result in an operational loss. If you want to serve the best part of San Fransisco, you&#8217;ve also got to serve the worst part of Oakland &#8212; and both with equal level of services. Universal Service doesn&#8217;t currently apply to any data service (including IP telephony from incumbent landline carriers &#8212; one of the advantages of FIOS to Verizon) &#8212; Maybe it should?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/07/01/can-the-free-market-provide-broadband-for-everyone/#comment-215712</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Christopher Mitchell that the Government should get involved in this expanding the broadband connection. People need access to information and services, irrespective of their social or economic status and high-speed access is a necessity in a global economy and a critical part of economic revival and survival for rural places. There are plenty of benefits of bringing broadband to rural areas like bringing jobs, commerce, education and health care to rural towns which are dependent on broadband.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Christopher Mitchell that the Government should get involved in this expanding the broadband connection. People need access to information and services, irrespective of their social or economic status and high-speed access is a necessity in a global economy and a critical part of economic revival and survival for rural places. There are plenty of benefits of bringing broadband to rural areas like bringing jobs, commerce, education and health care to rural towns which are dependent on broadband.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/07/01/can-the-free-market-provide-broadband-for-everyone/#comment-215711</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Stacy, I guess I stopped writing before answering your question.

To reiterate, please note that whatever happens and what has happened, government has played a role.  The idea that government may just now get involved is inaccurate - it may have to change its role.

To expand, I think government absolutely has to expand its role for the good of the country as a whole.  The private sector has little incentive to bring broadband to the entire country - building these networks (especially modern ones to compete with the rest of the developed world as opposed to ancient DSL) is cost prohibitive even in moderately dense areas - the ROI takes too long compared to other areas of investment.

Deregulation, or relaxing policies has done little good in recent years - and companies historically make promises they refuse to follow through on in order to get those changes.  I think the best model would be for publicly ownership of fiber networks run on an open access basis.  The natural monopoly element of fast, reliable broadband (meaning wired, generally with full fiber) prevents infrastructure-based competition from succeeding.  The public should own the fiber networks and allow multiple service providers to compete for customers - the road model.  Just as UPS and FedEx are free to compete on the roads.

This would not preclude private companies from building fiber networks, but I think the advantages of a network with choices vs. a monopolistic model are significant.

An alternative is to encourage munis and coops to form as we did with phones and electricity.  This would mean less federal involvement, but they would probably have to help with low-interest financing in rural areas.

Please note: none of this suggests that deploying broadband in rural areas is not profitable.  It just does not generate sufficient profits for many in the private sector.  These networks can still pay for themselves (unlike, say the roads) but over a long period of time ... which is another reason they must be built to last a long time and now some cheapo DSL solution that is slowly becoming indistinguishable from dialup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Stacy, I guess I stopped writing before answering your question.</p>
<p>To reiterate, please note that whatever happens and what has happened, government has played a role.  The idea that government may just now get involved is inaccurate &#8211; it may have to change its role.</p>
<p>To expand, I think government absolutely has to expand its role for the good of the country as a whole.  The private sector has little incentive to bring broadband to the entire country &#8211; building these networks (especially modern ones to compete with the rest of the developed world as opposed to ancient DSL) is cost prohibitive even in moderately dense areas &#8211; the ROI takes too long compared to other areas of investment.</p>
<p>Deregulation, or relaxing policies has done little good in recent years &#8211; and companies historically make promises they refuse to follow through on in order to get those changes.  I think the best model would be for publicly ownership of fiber networks run on an open access basis.  The natural monopoly element of fast, reliable broadband (meaning wired, generally with full fiber) prevents infrastructure-based competition from succeeding.  The public should own the fiber networks and allow multiple service providers to compete for customers &#8211; the road model.  Just as UPS and FedEx are free to compete on the roads.</p>
<p>This would not preclude private companies from building fiber networks, but I think the advantages of a network with choices vs. a monopolistic model are significant.</p>
<p>An alternative is to encourage munis and coops to form as we did with phones and electricity.  This would mean less federal involvement, but they would probably have to help with low-interest financing in rural areas.</p>
<p>Please note: none of this suggests that deploying broadband in rural areas is not profitable.  It just does not generate sufficient profits for many in the private sector.  These networks can still pay for themselves (unlike, say the roads) but over a long period of time &#8230; which is another reason they must be built to last a long time and now some cheapo DSL solution that is slowly becoming indistinguishable from dialup.</p>
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