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	<title>Comments on: ISPs Should Decide If They Provide a Utility or a Service</title>
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		<title>By: thegeniusflies</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/06/17/isps-should-decide-if-they-provide-a-utility-or-a-service/#comment-214473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thegeniusflies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[does anyone see a connection between FCC auctions, fewer &amp; larger carriers, oligopolist cartel pricing, and anticompetetive behavior? Then Congress cries foul and shakes the big guys down for more cash. But leaves the structure intact...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone see a connection between FCC auctions, fewer &amp; larger carriers, oligopolist cartel pricing, and anticompetetive behavior? Then Congress cries foul and shakes the big guys down for more cash. But leaves the structure intact&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey Higginbotham</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacey Higginbotham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mari, I think that what Comcast is doing with a high cap is fairly reasonable if they do keep moving that cap upwards as average usage rates increase. The ISP needs to disclose that cap as well. However, a usage-based model will hamper the rush of new services. If people still paid by the hour to be online, do you think telecommuting or all-night WoW sessions would be prevalent today?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mari, I think that what Comcast is doing with a high cap is fairly reasonable if they do keep moving that cap upwards as average usage rates increase. The ISP needs to disclose that cap as well. However, a usage-based model will hamper the rush of new services. If people still paid by the hour to be online, do you think telecommuting or all-night WoW sessions would be prevalent today?</p>
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		<title>By: Mari Silbey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mari Silbey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m thinking specifically fixed broadband service rather than cellular, but the conclusion I&#039;ve come to over time is that operators should be selling a service, with the caveat that a per-usage model may be necessary/appropriate above a certain threshold. It&#039;s a very slippery proposition in determining what that threshold is, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s unreasonable for there to be one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking specifically fixed broadband service rather than cellular, but the conclusion I&#8217;ve come to over time is that operators should be selling a service, with the caveat that a per-usage model may be necessary/appropriate above a certain threshold. It&#8217;s a very slippery proposition in determining what that threshold is, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s unreasonable for there to be one.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Text messaging uses some of the &quot;extra&quot; bandwidth in the signalling links for controlling voice calls and is a very different thing technically from wireless broadband delivered by EVDO or other similar technologies.  That being said, the carriers&#039; pricing schemes for texting is designed to incent users to purchase fixed monthly plans with a significantly lower average cost per text message (assuming that they use all the allotted messages each month).

The customers that I assume have really have lost out are those that send and receive relatively small amount of text messages.  Those that send large amounts have received significant discounts ( I assume they are on unlimited plans or plans with large allotments of messages for a fixed price).

The distribution of revenues by monthly messages sent  is what I would like to see - not just the average prices per text across all users from a carrier.  Not that any carrier is sharing that kind of information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Text messaging uses some of the &#8220;extra&#8221; bandwidth in the signalling links for controlling voice calls and is a very different thing technically from wireless broadband delivered by EVDO or other similar technologies.  That being said, the carriers&#8217; pricing schemes for texting is designed to incent users to purchase fixed monthly plans with a significantly lower average cost per text message (assuming that they use all the allotted messages each month).</p>
<p>The customers that I assume have really have lost out are those that send and receive relatively small amount of text messages.  Those that send large amounts have received significant discounts ( I assume they are on unlimited plans or plans with large allotments of messages for a fixed price).</p>
<p>The distribution of revenues by monthly messages sent  is what I would like to see &#8211; not just the average prices per text across all users from a carrier.  Not that any carrier is sharing that kind of information.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m an American, but I lived in Syndey (Bondi Junction) for 7 months.  This was in 2003.  I was shocked at how expensive even just metered dial-up was there.

However, ISPs here in America need to get their act together.  They&#039;ve set consumers&#039; expectations, and now are trying to change the game to make even more money.  They don&#039;t want to become &#039;dumb pipes&#039;... which is unfortunate for them as a business, but it&#039;s happening weather they like it or not... and I&#039;m sure they don&#039;t like it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an American, but I lived in Syndey (Bondi Junction) for 7 months.  This was in 2003.  I was shocked at how expensive even just metered dial-up was there.</p>
<p>However, ISPs here in America need to get their act together.  They&#8217;ve set consumers&#8217; expectations, and now are trying to change the game to make even more money.  They don&#8217;t want to become &#8216;dumb pipes&#8217;&#8230; which is unfortunate for them as a business, but it&#8217;s happening weather they like it or not&#8230; and I&#8217;m sure they don&#8217;t like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shannon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ll find that in Australia it has always been the case that Broadband and ADSL2+ has been metered from the get-go. I think that America has it too good if they&#039;re complaining over 20cent text fees when its 25c here to send a text and always has been.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll find that in Australia it has always been the case that Broadband and ADSL2+ has been metered from the get-go. I think that America has it too good if they&#8217;re complaining over 20cent text fees when its 25c here to send a text and always has been.</p>
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		<title>By: Chirayu Patel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chirayu Patel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Right now carriers are trying to have it both ways, which isn’t going to work. Take monthly broadband access: Unlimited broadband for a set dollar amount per month is a service, but once carriers started seeing usage go up, some of them moved to implement usage-based pricing plans that changed broadband into a metered utility.&quot;

The distinction between service and utility is not quite right. Bandwidth provided in any form - metered or not - is a utility. Services, as you rightly put later, would include texting, photo hosting, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Right now carriers are trying to have it both ways, which isn’t going to work. Take monthly broadband access: Unlimited broadband for a set dollar amount per month is a service, but once carriers started seeing usage go up, some of them moved to implement usage-based pricing plans that changed broadband into a metered utility.&#8221;</p>
<p>The distinction between service and utility is not quite right. Bandwidth provided in any form &#8211; metered or not &#8211; is a utility. Services, as you rightly put later, would include texting, photo hosting, etc.</p>
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