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	<title>Comments on: Netbook News: Rumble in the OS Jungle Comes Down to Price</title>
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		<title>By: James Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Jan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thats not quite true.
the EEEPC 901 was the reverse of what you just mentioned.
It was priced the same for both Windows &amp; Linux model BUT the Linux model comes with MORE storage.
Remember the EEEPC 901 12G with XP Home &amp; the EEEPC 901 20G with Linux.
The HP Mini 2133 came in similar specs between their Vista(sic) and Suse Linux models with the linux model priced lower.

However I do concur with your lament that netbooks these days don&#039;t seem to come without Windows anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats not quite true.<br />
the EEEPC 901 was the reverse of what you just mentioned.<br />
It was priced the same for both Windows &amp; Linux model BUT the Linux model comes with MORE storage.<br />
Remember the EEEPC 901 12G with XP Home &amp; the EEEPC 901 20G with Linux.<br />
The HP Mini 2133 came in similar specs between their Vista(sic) and Suse Linux models with the linux model priced lower.</p>
<p>However I do concur with your lament that netbooks these days don&#8217;t seem to come without Windows anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have tried the Win7 Ultimate beta and found that it offers nothing better than I already have with Linux (comparison on a Dell 530n desktop, not directly on a netbook).   So when buying my next netbook (I have a 701 Eee PC) or notebook/desktop PC, I&#039;ll be picking a Linux-loaded version unless the Win7 version can UNDERCUT the Linux price by enough to make it worth my while, since I&#039;ll have to wipe it and install Linux.  This modicum of additional time/effort needs to be compensated somehow: I&#039;d say at least $20 for the added work might suffice.

That said, I have seen netbooks with WinXP at prices lower than similar versions with Linux, but this is likely a supply/demand issue or reflects a subsidy of some form.  Savvy consumers (maybe) would realize that greater long-term costs are associated with such conditions (sale of other applications &amp; services dependent on a Windows base like MS Office, security-suites, etc. over the lifetime of the machine).  Otherwise, MS can&#039;t match/beat the cost with Linux.  And I&#039;m willing to pay a bit for Freedom (and performance and security and ...).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried the Win7 Ultimate beta and found that it offers nothing better than I already have with Linux (comparison on a Dell 530n desktop, not directly on a netbook).   So when buying my next netbook (I have a 701 Eee PC) or notebook/desktop PC, I&#8217;ll be picking a Linux-loaded version unless the Win7 version can UNDERCUT the Linux price by enough to make it worth my while, since I&#8217;ll have to wipe it and install Linux.  This modicum of additional time/effort needs to be compensated somehow: I&#8217;d say at least $20 for the added work might suffice.</p>
<p>That said, I have seen netbooks with WinXP at prices lower than similar versions with Linux, but this is likely a supply/demand issue or reflects a subsidy of some form.  Savvy consumers (maybe) would realize that greater long-term costs are associated with such conditions (sale of other applications &amp; services dependent on a Windows base like MS Office, security-suites, etc. over the lifetime of the machine).  Otherwise, MS can&#8217;t match/beat the cost with Linux.  And I&#8217;m willing to pay a bit for Freedom (and performance and security and &#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Administracja</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Administracja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i like this design :D  Asus rox]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like this design :D  Asus rox</p>
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		<title>By: thegeniusflies</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thegeniusflies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what we are seeing is the interplay of oligopolistic collusion, aka cartels. The introduction of linux netbooks was just a bargaining ploy against MS, and it worked. So now linux is relegated to the also-ran status it prevously held. Personally, I&#039;m to the point that I&#039;d rather build my own linux box than deal with MS. But most people won&#039;t want to go thru the effort. Linux would compete better if linux devlopers would concentrate more on pretty interface and ease of use.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what we are seeing is the interplay of oligopolistic collusion, aka cartels. The introduction of linux netbooks was just a bargaining ploy against MS, and it worked. So now linux is relegated to the also-ran status it prevously held. Personally, I&#8217;m to the point that I&#8217;d rather build my own linux box than deal with MS. But most people won&#8217;t want to go thru the effort. Linux would compete better if linux devlopers would concentrate more on pretty interface and ease of use.</p>
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		<title>By: IT Management &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wednesday Links: Smartphone for Video Conferencing, Netbook OSs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IT Management &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wednesday Links: Smartphone for Video Conferencing, Netbook OSs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Gigaom has a good update on netbook operating systems. &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gigaom has a good update on netbook operating systems. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it kind of funny. i put XP on a 2G eeePC as kind of a challange to see how easy it would be(i am much more a linux guy). but on all the more recent netbooks i have purchased I had no choice but to buy with windows and than reformat with linux. i really do wish they would offer the identical hardware with and without windows; allowing me to save the liscense fee. i own a few retail copies of XP and could allways install one that i am no longer using on another machine if needed; but i certainly do not need anymore OEM windows.

another thing that i have noticed is that when any netbook vendor releases both a windows and a linux version of a miachine the linux versions is a very barebones.limited functionality distro and comes with a lesser hardware configurations. the windows version is the higher end machine. i wish they would ship with identical hardware and that a full blown linux distro that can really show off the great possiblities was included on the linux version.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it kind of funny. i put XP on a 2G eeePC as kind of a challange to see how easy it would be(i am much more a linux guy). but on all the more recent netbooks i have purchased I had no choice but to buy with windows and than reformat with linux. i really do wish they would offer the identical hardware with and without windows; allowing me to save the liscense fee. i own a few retail copies of XP and could allways install one that i am no longer using on another machine if needed; but i certainly do not need anymore OEM windows.</p>
<p>another thing that i have noticed is that when any netbook vendor releases both a windows and a linux version of a miachine the linux versions is a very barebones.limited functionality distro and comes with a lesser hardware configurations. the windows version is the higher end machine. i wish they would ship with identical hardware and that a full blown linux distro that can really show off the great possiblities was included on the linux version.</p>
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		<title>By: virtual online worlds for kids</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[virtual online worlds for kids]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes indeed, windows 7 is cheap and good enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes indeed, windows 7 is cheap and good enough.</p>
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		<title>By: rohit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rohit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg: actually I meant that the UI, presentation, rendering engine/layout engine and most of the Apps will be common across the two platforms.  a palm sized &quot;super&quot;phone and a 10 inch or larger size netbook. I see distinct usage scenarios for both and would love to have the same iApple OR Android Apps on both devices (potentially w/ Sync-ed &#039;state&#039;)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg: actually I meant that the UI, presentation, rendering engine/layout engine and most of the Apps will be common across the two platforms.  a palm sized &#8220;super&#8221;phone and a 10 inch or larger size netbook. I see distinct usage scenarios for both and would love to have the same iApple OR Android Apps on both devices (potentially w/ Sync-ed &#8216;state&#8217;)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rrk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rrk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you can predict that given the price compression of netbook will happen to go from current $279 ASP to perhaps $150 over time, there is no room for a &gt;$5 OS on it.

I think netbook will force a fork in the relationship between INTEL and Microsoft - because Intel needs to get to the smartphone eventually and Netbook is the beginning for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you can predict that given the price compression of netbook will happen to go from current $279 ASP to perhaps $150 over time, there is no room for a &gt;$5 OS on it.</p>
<p>I think netbook will force a fork in the relationship between INTEL and Microsoft &#8211; because Intel needs to get to the smartphone eventually and Netbook is the beginning for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bowen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Bowen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree - phones are great for light facebooking - but netbooks can function as computers - I will even pop open photoshop in a pinch - they need to bump the keyboards up a bit though.

My acer is awesome - 6 cell battery burns me out - I have been using it all the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree &#8211; phones are great for light facebooking &#8211; but netbooks can function as computers &#8211; I will even pop open photoshop in a pinch &#8211; they need to bump the keyboards up a bit though.</p>
<p>My acer is awesome &#8211; 6 cell battery burns me out &#8211; I have been using it all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mohney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Mohney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or, Microsoft goes one better and offers a multi-device license/discounts for Windows 7

Device one - list
Devices 2-4, if mobile/netbook, lower...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, Microsoft goes one better and offers a multi-device license/discounts for Windows 7</p>
<p>Device one &#8211; list<br />
Devices 2-4, if mobile/netbook, lower&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Windows 7 starter edition will be $25 by next June if not Dec.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows 7 starter edition will be $25 by next June if not Dec.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with rohit.  Windows mobile will be free by December.  Windows 7 will be $25 by next June if not Dec.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with rohit.  Windows mobile will be free by December.  Windows 7 will be $25 by next June if not Dec.</p>
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		<title>By: rohit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rohit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the netbooks markeplace will be adjacent and eventually merge with the smart/superphones...see Acer launching smartphones/touchphones:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d30ec99a-5a9d-11de-8c14-00144feabdc0.html?referrer_id=yahoofinance&amp;ft_ref=yahoo1&amp;segid=03058

Android will be a bigger factor - Microsoft may be forced to asymptotically approach zero dollar pricing on the OS / Win Mobile...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the netbooks markeplace will be adjacent and eventually merge with the smart/superphones&#8230;see Acer launching smartphones/touchphones:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d30ec99a-5a9d-11de-8c14-00144feabdc0.html?referrer_id=yahoofinance&#038;ft_ref=yahoo1&#038;segid=03058" rel="nofollow">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d30ec99a-5a9d-11de-8c14-00144feabdc0.html?referrer_id=yahoofinance&#038;ft_ref=yahoo1&#038;segid=03058</a></p>
<p>Android will be a bigger factor &#8211; Microsoft may be forced to asymptotically approach zero dollar pricing on the OS / Win Mobile&#8230;</p>
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