Comments on: Why Both EMC & NetApp Want Data Domain http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: New on GigaOM Pro: A Look at the Data Domain Deal – GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212752 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:38:12 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212752 [...] company appears certain to be facing a future in the arms of a larger firm. Om in a post last week laid out some of the reasons why both companies are interested in acquiring Data Domain and its de-deduplication expertise, and suggested that the deal could be a bellwether event for the [...]

]]> By: Backup Guy http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212751 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:03:47 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212751 It’s about mathematics and functions that reduce binary storage constraints. Client or server side are irrelevant. JBOD doesn’t care where the bits come from.

]]> By: strom http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212750 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:55:45 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212750 To see some of the power of these dedupe technologies, take a look at my screencast of Symantec’s PureDisk product here:
http://webinformant.tv/how-to-use-symantec-products-to-stop-buying-more-storage.html

]]> By: Transitioning From The Enterprise To The Cloud » Blog Archive » EMC Snagged Data Domain, So What’s Next for NetApp? http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212749 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:32:20 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212749 [...] finally agreed to be acquired by EMC for $33.50 per share, triggering payment of a $57 million break-up fee to NetApp. For EMC the buy is very much about “keeping your friends close but your enemies [...]

]]> By: EMC Snagged Data Domain, So What’s Next for NetApp? http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212748 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:41:19 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212748 [...] finally agreed to be acquired by EMC for $33.50 per share, triggering payment of a $57 million break-up fee to NetApp. For EMC the buy is very much about “keeping your friends close but your enemies [...]

]]> By: DataDog http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212747 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:18:18 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212747 I agree with Mike K.

1) They compete
2) Source side de-duplication is a technical winner every time. DD solves one problem, less disk on the back end. Products that do it on the source like Avamar solve many, less disk, shorter backup windows, and the ability to remove tape/disk at remote sites for backup.

The only problem is Avamar requires and investment and change of software solutions, while DD works with any; however I’ve never heard a customer get 1/2 the reduction that DD claims.

]]> By: Per http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212746 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:12:36 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212746 Why would you say that the EMC support structure is the worst you have seen? As an integrator all I hear from customers is that they leave Netapp because of the strength in EMC support, not necessarily for their Cellera products?

]]> By: Larry http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212745 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:58:14 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212745 Shame no one seems to be taking into account the after sales support on these products, and why are netapp filers being compared to EMC solutions (propriatery file based V block addressed). I am in the position of evaluating the support issues for all the above mentioned vendor solutions and for my 2cents worth I wouldn’t touch EMC with a ten foot pole since their support structure is the worst I have encountered in 20 years of storage analysis!

]]> By: Data Domain, NetApp, EMC, and Deduplication – Where to Go To Know « Netting It Out http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212744 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:35:26 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212744 [...] Malik’s fine piece, “Why Both EMC & NetApp Want Data Domain”, June 2, 2009, at GigaOM.  Om will help you begin to understand what de-duplication is, and why [...]

]]> By: Heartless Cad http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212743 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:50:20 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212743 NetApp’s and EMC’s Data Domain acquisition attempts are bald-faced admissions of their products’ inferior technological merits. DD is a growing threat with a better solution that they can’t compete with, so they’ll destroy it by assimilating it just like NetApp did with Spinnaker. It doesn’t really matter whether they’re successful at integrating, the real goal is anti-competitive. Maybe the Fed should prohibit the purchase.

]]> By: 5 Companies That Should Be on Dell’s Shopping List http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212742 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:32:36 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212742 [...] for about 22 percent of CommVault’s sales in the last nine months of calendar 2008. With the fight over Data Domain, de-duplication is hot. And storage is clearly an area where Dell wants to buy [...]

]]> By: Battle for Data Domain Getting Hostile, Nasty http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212741 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:47:36 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212741 [...] Tucci argues that marriage to EMC makes sense because it’s offering more money, has experience integrating companies, and is simply a fantastic place to work.  The letter may be window dressing for the employees while EMC attempts to win over Data Domain’s shareholders. Data Domain’s board’s quick acceptance of the NetApp offer will still have to be approved by shareholders, which may prefer an all-cash deal. With this letter, Tucci shows EMC isn’t ready to give up. For a sense of why everyone’s fighting over Data Domain, check out Om’s story on its de-duplication technology. [...]

]]> By: DDup http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212740 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:27:14 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212740 Avamar and Data Domain are not competitors, they are in 2 different spaces. Avamar is Client level, Data domain target, EMC has no real solution for target dedupe, that is why they would go after Data Domain. Data Domain crushes the Quantum solution in a “bake-off”. For mid-sized and large customers, target is the only way to go. The infrastructure required for client level solutions is crazy to maintain when you get over 50TB.

]]> By: mikes' guy http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212739 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:55:13 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212739 I am sure you did a bakeoff Mike. You sound like a very insecure EMC guy, who is still attempting to sell the virtues of a failed technology. If the money involved in these deals from both NetApp and EMC doesn’t tell that neither company has a viable alternative, then nothing will. No company has EVER paid over a billion dollars for a product they don’t need, just to keep a competitor from getting it.

]]> By: Technical blogs with pictures and videos » NetApp to EMC: That Deal Is Mine http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212738 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:00:16 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212738 [...] Om pointed out, Data Domain’s de-duplication technology is hot. EMC may want Data Domain for its technology, but it is also trying to keep its bitter rival from [...]

]]> By: NetApp to EMC: That Deal Is Mine http://gigaom.com/2009/06/02/why-both-emc-netapp-want-data-domain/#comment-212737 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:37:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=52566#comment-212737 [...] Om pointed out, Data Domain’s de-duplication technology is hot. EMC may want Data Domain for its technology, but it is also trying to keep its bitter rival from [...]

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