So That’s Why Hulu Hates Boxee

By Om Malik | Thursday, May 28, 2009 | 1:51 PM PT | 37 comments |

Hulu, the popular television content aggregator backed by major Hollywood companies, today launched a desktop application that can only be used on PCs. Of course, we wouldn’t expect the company to do it any other way — after all, if it ran on set-top boxes, it would dry up the lucrative money stream that flows from cable operators to Hulu’s partners and parents.

The launch of this desktop application explains why Hulu went after Boxee, the New York-based startup that developed an interesting content aggregation platform. The two companies tussled for a long time. It was believed that Hulu’s big bad backers were forcing its hand against Boxee. The launch of the desktop app shows that Hulu was being nothing but anti-competitive in an underhanded sort of way.

When All Things D’s Kara Swisher asked NBC CEO Jeff Zucker about Hulu making it difficult to watch its service on TV via software like Boxee, he said. “Right now we’re committed to Hulu being an online experience, and that’s where our vision is today, and I think that will continue.” Right! That is why Hulu released the desktop version.

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  • Will work great on the Mac Mini I have hooked up to my plasma. Looks a lot like Apple’s Front Row…

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    • I am going to try this tonight. When I actually get some time to watch Hulu :-)

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    • Liz points out in her post over on NewTeeVee that the HULU Terms of Service dont want you watching HULU on a actual TV .

      You may not download, install or use the Hulu Software on any device other than a Personal Computer including without limitation digital media receiver devices (such as Apple TV), mobile devices (such as a cell phone device, mobile handheld device or a PDA), network devices or CE devices (collectively “Prohibited Devices”).

      So how does this work for HP Medaismart TV ?

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      • Matt_

        Let’s see if Hulu will try to enter my apartment. I am going to be ready for the Hulu-drama. Funny thing is that they don’t seem to acknowledge the fact that TV makers are putting full blown computers inside the TV now.

         
      • I bet there’ll be an AppleTV hack in 3…2…1… (if it has the horsepower to run it).

        But seriously…this has me wanting a Mac Mini for a HTPC setup BAD.

         
      • I just tried this on my Mac Mini that’s connected to my 42 LCD TV. I prefer enjoying Hulu through the browser using a handheld mouse (gyration). The site’s UI is easier to see from far away due to a white background and large thumbnails.

        Good to see something like becoming available. Maybe they will change the desktop’s UI to what is seen on hulu?

         
      • “HULU Terms of Service dont want you watching HULU on a actual TV”

        Now that’s funny! I just waiting for a Hulu cop to show up at my door! PCTVCables.com

         
      • Nothing in the text of your comment precludes a TV, Matt_. The hulu software can run on Jordan’s mac mini, a personal computer. What’s the problem? (I haven’t read the entire TOS, I can’t imagine why most people would.)

         
  • @om HULU says its TV for the Internet (even their TV ads do this ) but it seems that the internets for HULU and its owners is limited to a personal computer….HULU is so last Century

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  • Well, that is the risk you take when you try to run your service on top of somebody’s else’s right? See: Photobucket / Myspace, FB / app developers, Hulu / Boxee.

    Joe Bryant — 2:08 PM on May 28, 2009
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    • I think you are right. The so called Web 2.0 platform approach has been a bit of a non-starter, regardless of what web 2 revolutionaries might actually say ;-)

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      • The concept is viable. It just turns out that the “openness” these companies have been touting isn’t so open after all. It’s a great buzzword that can get plenty of press, but the empty promises are getting frustrating as a developer and a consumer.

         
  • The browser is my only operating system for the future. Great post Om.

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  • Hulu needs to get its butt in gear with international content streaming… every time someone links to a Hulu clip and I get the dreaded “United States only” message, I grimace and gnash my teeth.

    Every other article about the company means nothing to me, really… ’cause I’ve never used it due to those restrictions. ;)

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  • Working on my Mac just fine…

    chartbeat — 2:49 PM on May 28, 2009
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  • I bought a $20 adaptor for my Mac that runs it on my TV. Am I violating the TOS?

    Dan Callahan — 2:51 PM on May 28, 2009
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  • I agree… “that can only be used on PCs.” Is incorrect. They have a mac version.

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  • I cant run Firefox and Hulu desktop at the same time, FF crashes, but I love Hulu Desktop :(

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  • Uh, while I love the idea of expanding distribution… Desktop Applications don’t historically work – er, VeohTV, Joost, etc. Not sure about this strategy.

    What they should have done is just integrate themselves with Windows Media Center, Apple TV and other other providers.

    Hello, if your premium content is available everywhere without having to install anything new, wouldn’t you pay?

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  • @Jim HULUs owners NBC and Fox don’t want you watching HULU on a TV in your Living room .

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    • @Matt,

      Actually, NBC/U and FOX and now DISNEY would likely prefer no-one watched their shows on Hulu at all, and instead watched on their own portals – after all, they don’t split revenue that way.

      But as they realized, people want a single place for everything, not having to deal with each individual companies formats or special sites. so reluctantly they’re on-board, cannibalizing their own digital business units.

      Everyone will eventually figure out that there’s not a sustainable model to rely solely on advertising against the myriad of formats video is played in online. Advertisers can’t keep up, and viewers aren’t interested in more interactive advertising, they’re interested in good content.

      Advertisers can’t afford to spend billions to support content online if it doesn’t impact their bottom line. The traffic to online video is no where near the eyeballs on TV, and on sites like YouTube where traffic is huge, very little value to the marketers, cause none of those viewers are going to buy anything (they’re used to getting things for free).

      @Gary
      As far as content providers wanting to control where the content is going – actually, that’s almost entirely about advertising. Advertisers don’t want to put ads against just any distributor, so Hulu targets distribution insuring that ads are never placed in context of anything offensive to the advertisers.

      If not for the restrictions from advertisers, the content providers would love to have their content everywhere — of course, assuming that they are getting paid from someone to do so.

      Bottom line:
      The “free” internet and professional media are simply not compatible. Eventually, we’re going to have to pay if we want professional media to remain available online.

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  • You guys are missing the point.

    1. Hulu can be run on a Mac. The website states this.
    2. Hulu’s ” content providers ” want to control where their content is consumed. Just like they always have. If you read through the FAQ at the bottom of http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop it states:

    Is the same content on Hulu.com available on Hulu Desktop?
    Generally speaking the Hulu library on Hulu.com will be available through Hulu Desktop. While our goal is to have the same content library available on through all of our distribution channels, we work together with our partners to determine availability of their content on these various channels.

    Not going through Boxee, iPhone, “name that device”, is due to Hulu’s “content providers” wanting to control the media consumption experience.

    Antiquated thinking.

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  • For those several who don’t understand hardware, a “Mac” is a “PC”–always has been; it’s just not a Windows PC… or a Linux PC… or a PC. You’ve been watching too many TV commercials. :D

    Hulu can keep their Desktop and “their” content.

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  • Guys

    Just to be clear, PC in this case means personal computer. Since it works both on Windows and Mac, I ended up using the phrase “PC”.

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    • I should have noticed the “PCs” as “Personal Computer” … sometimes I forget that PC does not equal “Windows”.

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      • you have IBM to thank for that training. it was always about the PC vs. the Mac, heck even the commercials today continue that, note that Apple’s commercial is between the two characters, PC & Mac.

         
  • Have you shopped for a computer monitor lately? The sweet spot is a 24″ 1920 x 1080 LCD panel that was developed for HDTV use. Just because it says HP on the bezel doesn’t mean it’s not a TV, and just because it says Panasonic doesn’t mean you can’t plug your computer into it.

    Every screen is technically a computer monitor nowadays. The only thing that makes it a TV is that some box is playing video onto it. Whether that video comes through the Internet to an Intel CPU, or through some other path, is an arbitrary and pointless distinction.

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  • Anticompetitive? What? Hulu hosts the videos. How is it anticompetitive if they don’t want another app stealing their content?

    And it actually turns out that the Hulu desktop player has a way nicer interface than Boxee (especially on mac). And where is Boxee PC support anyways?

    This seems like a crazy blog post. Hulu just built something pretty fantastic here… how is Boxee the story?

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  • your using an antiquated 24″ 1920 x 1080 LCD panel for your monitor, poor you.

    most people today in the UK DVi/HDMI plug their PC’s (personal computers) in to antiquated 32″ 1920 x 1080 LCD panels as their cheaper than the current 42″ and 52″ 1920 x 1080 LCD panel, and available everywere, even your local small garden centers today.

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  • The TV networks are not going to give away content on the Internet forever. Hulu will eventually become a subscription only site. Or, as an alternative, the Networks will work a deal with ISPs to get a cut of the new per megabyte/gigabyte billing system that is on the way to an Internet Service near you.

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  • I’ve been watching Hulu on my TV since Christmas last year (2008). It was a present…

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  • …thank you Boxee.

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  • Anticompetitive? Huh? It’s actually quite competitive. And it should be. Hulu is not some giant monopoly. They have no obligation to allow other companies to ride off their licenses and hosting infrastructure.

    And if they don’t want to let Boxee gain user traction (with their content) around the TV consumption mode when they’re being boxed in by their content providers to a PC / Web”mostly” experience, they shouldn’t be labeled as “anti-competitive” for doing so.

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