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	<title>Comments on: Google Climbs to New Heights of Arrogance With Wave</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Acheson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Acheson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Google has now abandoned Wave:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://twitter.com/timacheson/status/20386969587&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google&#039;s latest flop is especially embarrassing when the launch was so over-hyped, and so recent.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google, like Apple, is trendy and overrated. Google led the way in search, and used the money to buy a few good companies. All the rest is hype and corporate propagadna.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What&#039;s next? &quot;Buzz&quot; the &quot;Twitter killer&quot; [not]?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google has now abandoned Wave:</p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/timacheson/status/20386969587" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/timacheson/status/20386969587</a></p>
<p>Google&#8217;s latest flop is especially embarrassing when the launch was so over-hyped, and so recent.</p>
<p>Google, like Apple, is trendy and overrated. Google led the way in search, and used the money to buy a few good companies. All the rest is hype and corporate propagadna.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next? &#8220;Buzz&#8221; the &#8220;Twitter killer&#8221; [not]?</p>
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		<title>By: Long It Won&#8217;t Wave: Google Axes Wave</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212353</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Long It Won&#8217;t Wave: Google Axes Wave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 21:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] continue work in it. But the product which once seemed like Google&#8217;s most audacious (even arrogant) attempt to change the way the world shares information isn&#8217;t going to change the [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] continue work in it. But the product which once seemed like Google&#8217;s most audacious (even arrogant) attempt to change the way the world shares information isn&#8217;t going to change the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What The Blank</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212352</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What The Blank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;All the various &quot;inventions&quot; are eventual flops and are generally driven by bored, rich managers and developers sitting around with nothing to do. Regardless of what &quot;product&quot; you&#039;re talking about, I&#039;ve never seen a company so opposed to user interface OPTIONS and consistency. They should spend time making existing products flexible and conform to pre-existing practically-known-standards.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the various &#8220;inventions&#8221; are eventual flops and are generally driven by bored, rich managers and developers sitting around with nothing to do. Regardless of what &#8220;product&#8221; you&#8217;re talking about, I&#8217;ve never seen a company so opposed to user interface OPTIONS and consistency. They should spend time making existing products flexible and conform to pre-existing practically-known-standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Wave Opens Up, Finally</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212351</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Wave Opens Up, Finally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 16:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] By Harry McCracken &#160;&#124;&#160; Posted at 9:00 am on Wednesday, May 19, 2010   At 2009&#8242;s Google I&#124;O developer conference, the big news was the debut of the company&#8217;s uberambitious Wave workgroup service. And it was big news: I got all giddy and called it the new epicenter of the Google-Microsoft wars; my friend Jordan Golson, on the other hand, thought it was breathtakingly arrogant. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] By Harry McCracken &nbsp;|&nbsp; Posted at 9:00 am on Wednesday, May 19, 2010   At 2009&#8242;s Google I|O developer conference, the big news was the debut of the company&#8217;s uberambitious Wave workgroup service. And it was big news: I got all giddy and called it the new epicenter of the Google-Microsoft wars; my friend Jordan Golson, on the other hand, thought it was breathtakingly arrogant. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Google Climbs to New Heights of Arrogance With Wave – GigaOM - Tech Gyaan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Climbs to New Heights of Arrogance With Wave – GigaOM - Tech Gyaan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zen of Linux</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zen of Linux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;You&#039;ve got a point there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I just wanted to express that Google isn&#039;t reinventing the wheel here. The true genius is that of the guys who pushed XMPP etc., the tech everyone is using to do such things as dropio, ours, squad, the list goes on. I&#039;m just tired of Google claiming to have invented something, as with search... (please note the bitter cockiness)&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got a point there.</p>
<p>I just wanted to express that Google isn&#8217;t reinventing the wheel here. The true genius is that of the guys who pushed XMPP etc., the tech everyone is using to do such things as dropio, ours, squad, the list goes on. I&#8217;m just tired of Google claiming to have invented something, as with search&#8230; (please note the bitter cockiness)</p>
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		<title>By: StareClips.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212348</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StareClips.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s too bad that yours is limited to internal use only. It might actually be more helpful if other people can use it. So, for people who only want to collaborate with a finite group of people internally, I am sure your solution works just great. For those who want to be able to collaborate with anyone and everyone, in an ubiquitous manner like e-mail, then Wave it is.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too bad that yours is limited to internal use only. It might actually be more helpful if other people can use it. So, for people who only want to collaborate with a finite group of people internally, I am sure your solution works just great. For those who want to be able to collaborate with anyone and everyone, in an ubiquitous manner like e-mail, then Wave it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Zen of Linux</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212347</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zen of Linux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Collaboration and communication through a shared document? Zzzzzzz. For internal use we have hacked together such an application months ago (call it a collaborative web OS desktop).
Who needs Google to read along our conversations and plaster everything with ads then?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collaboration and communication through a shared document? Zzzzzzz. For internal use we have hacked together such an application months ago (call it a collaborative web OS desktop).<br />
Who needs Google to read along our conversations and plaster everything with ads then?</p>
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		<title>By: Google Wave makes me feel stupid &#124; Tim Gregory</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212346</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Wave makes me feel stupid &#124; Tim Gregory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] a bit too much hype around Wave. Much smarter guys than me don&#8217;t seem too impressed so far. Gigaom weighs in, saying that &#8220;Google climbs to new heights of arrogance with Wave&#8221;, and Scoble writes [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a bit too much hype around Wave. Much smarter guys than me don&#8217;t seem too impressed so far. Gigaom weighs in, saying that &#8220;Google climbs to new heights of arrogance with Wave&#8221;, and Scoble writes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Google Wave tutorials</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Wave tutorials]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m about two thirds through reading these comments on the train...  I agree with a lot of comments from both sides of the story that Google is still very much holding onto search as their main bread winner which is far from ideal after the 7 or so years they&#039;ve been around...

But I think whether or not Google Wave, Maps/ Street View etc.. are &#039;financial successes&#039; is besides the point...  After all, whether or not they become nice little earners for Google is not the underlying reason for their existence I think.  Admittedly, if Google Wave and the other products take off (financially) they&#039;ll won&#039;t complain but they achieve what matters most, and that is to keep the Google brand (primarily Search) in the public eye, whether directly or indirectly.  With this in mind, the more products people use by Google, whether in addition to Google search or not just gives them more chance to pull people into their main bread winner at a later date which is all that matters.

StareClips.com: thanks for your response, now I&#039;m thinking how people see them co-existing together in the future?  That is Wave/ Google Docs and the Microsoft Office suite.

Thanks,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m about two thirds through reading these comments on the train&#8230;  I agree with a lot of comments from both sides of the story that Google is still very much holding onto search as their main bread winner which is far from ideal after the 7 or so years they&#8217;ve been around&#8230;</p>
<p>But I think whether or not Google Wave, Maps/ Street View etc.. are &#8216;financial successes&#8217; is besides the point&#8230;  After all, whether or not they become nice little earners for Google is not the underlying reason for their existence I think.  Admittedly, if Google Wave and the other products take off (financially) they&#8217;ll won&#8217;t complain but they achieve what matters most, and that is to keep the Google brand (primarily Search) in the public eye, whether directly or indirectly.  With this in mind, the more products people use by Google, whether in addition to Google search or not just gives them more chance to pull people into their main bread winner at a later date which is all that matters.</p>
<p>StareClips.com: thanks for your response, now I&#8217;m thinking how people see them co-existing together in the future?  That is Wave/ Google Docs and the Microsoft Office suite.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: StareClips.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212344</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StareClips.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Microsoft Office is too embraced within Offices, Governments and particularly Schools where new starters to computers start off with Microsoft Office. I’ll probably be proved wrong but I don’t see teachers getting a Wave account over night to mark an assignment written using something else to Microsoft Word such as Google Docs.&quot;

Ummm, it&#039;s already happening. And, Google Wave has nothing to do with this. Google Docs already allows real-time collaboration on documents. Google Wave is just Google&#039;s attempt to take this otherwise proprietary collaboration system... make it better... then open it up for all other collaboration systems to utilize... ultimately allowing cross-collaboration between competing products.

Many offices are already using Microsoft Office side-by-side with Google Docs. As those offices find themselves relying on Microsoft Office less and less, they have a new way to cut down on expenses rather than just laying off employees. This is most important in these difficult financial times.

Governments are already making the switch to Google Docs. Look at the LA City Council for an example.

Finally, many schools are moving in huge numbers away from Microsoft Office products to Google Docs. In the long run, it&#039;s cheaper... and it offers more choices and less lock-in.

None of this has anything to do with Google Wave. Google Wave is still in its infancy. Google Wave is something which can eventually enhance existing Google Docs services... but those services already do just fine on their own without Wave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Microsoft Office is too embraced within Offices, Governments and particularly Schools where new starters to computers start off with Microsoft Office. I’ll probably be proved wrong but I don’t see teachers getting a Wave account over night to mark an assignment written using something else to Microsoft Word such as Google Docs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ummm, it&#8217;s already happening. And, Google Wave has nothing to do with this. Google Docs already allows real-time collaboration on documents. Google Wave is just Google&#8217;s attempt to take this otherwise proprietary collaboration system&#8230; make it better&#8230; then open it up for all other collaboration systems to utilize&#8230; ultimately allowing cross-collaboration between competing products.</p>
<p>Many offices are already using Microsoft Office side-by-side with Google Docs. As those offices find themselves relying on Microsoft Office less and less, they have a new way to cut down on expenses rather than just laying off employees. This is most important in these difficult financial times.</p>
<p>Governments are already making the switch to Google Docs. Look at the LA City Council for an example.</p>
<p>Finally, many schools are moving in huge numbers away from Microsoft Office products to Google Docs. In the long run, it&#8217;s cheaper&#8230; and it offers more choices and less lock-in.</p>
<p>None of this has anything to do with Google Wave. Google Wave is still in its infancy. Google Wave is something which can eventually enhance existing Google Docs services&#8230; but those services already do just fine on their own without Wave.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Wave tutorials</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212343</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Wave tutorials]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s hard to see what Google Wave will become at this point due to it&#039;s open source nature and how we use it over the next 3 years will probably completely change.  I don&#039;t see it ever becoming a real threat to Microsoft Office not because it&#039;s no good, far from it actually, but more because Microsoft Office is too embraced within Offices, Governments and particularly Schools where new starters to computers start off with Microsoft Office.  I&#039;ll probably be proved wrong but I don&#039;t see teachers getting a Wave account over night to mark an assignment written using something else to Microsoft Word such as Google Docs.  Also, just whilst on this topic, some schools may not provide internet connections within their lessons.  This sounds crazy to me but this might be the case..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s hard to see what Google Wave will become at this point due to it&#8217;s open source nature and how we use it over the next 3 years will probably completely change.  I don&#8217;t see it ever becoming a real threat to Microsoft Office not because it&#8217;s no good, far from it actually, but more because Microsoft Office is too embraced within Offices, Governments and particularly Schools where new starters to computers start off with Microsoft Office.  I&#8217;ll probably be proved wrong but I don&#8217;t see teachers getting a Wave account over night to mark an assignment written using something else to Microsoft Word such as Google Docs.  Also, just whilst on this topic, some schools may not provide internet connections within their lessons.  This sounds crazy to me but this might be the case..</p>
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		<title>By: Cristian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212342</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cristian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re looking for integrating collaboration into your own solution, check out Team Work Interactive Platform (TWIP).
We are building a collaborative platform, where applications shouldn&#039;t depend on the content being shared. Our aproach is a little bit different than Google&#039;s (although I do enjoy Wave, can&#039;t think of a better conversation tool), in the way that we intend to offer collaboration as a feature for existing applications (without beeing so related to conversations).

We will be ready soon with a demo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re looking for integrating collaboration into your own solution, check out Team Work Interactive Platform (TWIP).<br />
We are building a collaborative platform, where applications shouldn&#8217;t depend on the content being shared. Our aproach is a little bit different than Google&#8217;s (although I do enjoy Wave, can&#8217;t think of a better conversation tool), in the way that we intend to offer collaboration as a feature for existing applications (without beeing so related to conversations).</p>
<p>We will be ready soon with a demo.</p>
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		<title>By: gMan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212341</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gMan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, We wouldnt have google today if Google adopted a strict monetization plan. Without google, we wouldnt have a search engine that gives us relevant results. We wouldnt have free email, round about the time when gmail was launched was when i remember email was just starting to go paid. And now when they are launching this product which is sure to change the way we communicate on the net, I am sure that as usual, google&#039;s competitors will be wondering what just hit them when Google swipes another chunk load of the internet&#039;s users. Not everything needs to be done with the &quot;tried and tested&quot; modes of business. Open your mind, Your growth should also help the growth of your end users.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, We wouldnt have google today if Google adopted a strict monetization plan. Without google, we wouldnt have a search engine that gives us relevant results. We wouldnt have free email, round about the time when gmail was launched was when i remember email was just starting to go paid. And now when they are launching this product which is sure to change the way we communicate on the net, I am sure that as usual, google&#8217;s competitors will be wondering what just hit them when Google swipes another chunk load of the internet&#8217;s users. Not everything needs to be done with the &#8220;tried and tested&#8221; modes of business. Open your mind, Your growth should also help the growth of your end users.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212340</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[- The tech is extremely interesting not only as a standalone solution, but also for embedding into other solutions.
- Google is letting developers in very early to get to a flying start.
- And much of it will be open-sourced, so even if Google drops it, the tech may live on.

Sounds like a winner to me. I&#039;m integrating it with my solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- The tech is extremely interesting not only as a standalone solution, but also for embedding into other solutions.<br />
- Google is letting developers in very early to get to a flying start.<br />
- And much of it will be open-sourced, so even if Google drops it, the tech may live on.</p>
<p>Sounds like a winner to me. I&#8217;m integrating it with my solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Wave Makes Its Biggest Splash Yet</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/28/google-climbs-to-new-heights-of-arrogance-with-wave/#comment-212339</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Wave Makes Its Biggest Splash Yet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in action. Google has served up some interesting examples of how Wave might be used, and although there is room to reserve some skepticism about it, given the erratic history of &#8220;unified communications&#8221; applications,  it&#8217;s a [...]]]></description>
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