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	<title>Comments on: Verizon Sells Rural Access Lines to Frontier for $8.6B</title>
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		<title>By: Verizon Wireless Wants to Be Your Landline: Broadband News and Analysis &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/13/verizon-dumps-rural-access-lines-for-8-6b/#comment-595851</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Verizon Wireless Wants to Be Your Landline: Broadband News and Analysis &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] betting on wireless and fiber as the transport mechanisms for video, voice and data. It has sold off its copper assets in most areas, and with this offering can expand its broadband and voice offering beyond its FiOS [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] betting on wireless and fiber as the transport mechanisms for video, voice and data. It has sold off its copper assets in most areas, and with this offering can expand its broadband and voice offering beyond its FiOS [...]</p>
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		<title>By: phonee</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/13/verizon-dumps-rural-access-lines-for-8-6b/#comment-210934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phonee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Ever since GTE became Verizon, quality has gone out the door and production and profit have taken over, leaving subscribers disappointed.
Pooring everything into Fios which is overpriced, abandoning copper and its users has failed. To try and convince customers that your new product is better than the old is hard to do when you didn&#039;t let manpower have the time to do their job to keep customers happy.
Used to be you saw something needing repaired they&#039;d give you the time to fix it, all of it. Now it&#039;s piece it together and forget the rest. Taking employees pride from them in doing their job correctly and forcing poor workmanship. Thus the fall of copper and the lack of Fios subscriber rates. Try and tell that to superiors and they scawf at you like you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about. All the while we&#039;re the ones face to face with customers.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since GTE became Verizon, quality has gone out the door and production and profit have taken over, leaving subscribers disappointed.<br />
Pooring everything into Fios which is overpriced, abandoning copper and its users has failed. To try and convince customers that your new product is better than the old is hard to do when you didn&#8217;t let manpower have the time to do their job to keep customers happy.<br />
Used to be you saw something needing repaired they&#8217;d give you the time to fix it, all of it. Now it&#8217;s piece it together and forget the rest. Taking employees pride from them in doing their job correctly and forcing poor workmanship. Thus the fall of copper and the lack of Fios subscriber rates. Try and tell that to superiors and they scawf at you like you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about. All the while we&#8217;re the ones face to face with customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Cablevision to Buy Bresnan Cable In Westward Expansion</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/13/verizon-dumps-rural-access-lines-for-8-6b/#comment-210933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cablevision to Buy Bresnan Cable In Westward Expansion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] fees for subscribers or through broadband stimulus bucks. Some are consolidating and others are looking to get out of rural markets altogether. Cablevision&#8217;s bet seems to be that getting bigger is better for the time [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fees for subscribers or through broadband stimulus bucks. Some are consolidating and others are looking to get out of rural markets altogether. Cablevision&#8217;s bet seems to be that getting bigger is better for the time [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CenturyTel to Buy Qwest To Become a Big Bell</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/13/verizon-dumps-rural-access-lines-for-8-6b/#comment-210932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CenturyTel to Buy Qwest To Become a Big Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] spread out, making it more costly to maintain and invest in network upgrades. Verizon for example, has been selling its rural lines where it can and it doesn&#8217;t currently have plans to continue extending its FiOS fiber-to- the-home [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] spread out, making it more costly to maintain and invest in network upgrades. Verizon for example, has been selling its rural lines where it can and it doesn&#8217;t currently have plans to continue extending its FiOS fiber-to- the-home [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Real Reason Verizon Is Backing Away From Landlines</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/13/verizon-dumps-rural-access-lines-for-8-6b/#comment-210931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Real Reason Verizon Is Backing Away From Landlines]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] — now that Verizon will focus on wireless and video delivered via FiOS? It is continuing to dump its rural copper networks by selling them to smaller carriers. When it comes to copper Internet access lines, Verizon is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] — now that Verizon will focus on wireless and video delivered via FiOS? It is continuing to dump its rural copper networks by selling them to smaller carriers. When it comes to copper Internet access lines, Verizon is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Embarq and CenturyTel Merge, Become CenturyLink</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/13/verizon-dumps-rural-access-lines-for-8-6b/#comment-210930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Embarq and CenturyTel Merge, Become CenturyLink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] by a somnolent FCC that last week gained a new chair, so perhaps the requirements demanded in the Verizon-Frontier deal will be decided upon by an agency awake to the stagnation that consolidation can mean for broadband [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by a somnolent FCC that last week gained a new chair, so perhaps the requirements demanded in the Verizon-Frontier deal will be decided upon by an agency awake to the stagnation that consolidation can mean for broadband [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Qwest Backs Off Sale of Its Long-Distance Network</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/13/verizon-dumps-rural-access-lines-for-8-6b/#comment-210929</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Qwest Backs Off Sale of Its Long-Distance Network]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] long-distance network and became a retail phone company it could become a buyer or a seller in the consolidation happening among rural and mid-tier phone companies. In other words, a sale of the long-distance network could [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] long-distance network and became a retail phone company it could become a buyer or a seller in the consolidation happening among rural and mid-tier phone companies. In other words, a sale of the long-distance network could [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DG Lewis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/13/verizon-dumps-rural-access-lines-for-8-6b/#comment-210928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DG Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...we’ll soon find that wired broadband, including FiOS, is the thing of the past.&quot;

FiOS can pump 2.4 Gb/s down a single wavelength, split among 32 subs.  If that turns out to be not enough, there&#039;s WDM-PON or hybrid PON technology out there that can ship 2.4 Gb/s to each sub.

Current upper limits of radio technology max out at around 4.5 bps per Hz; even LTE&#039;s 100 Mb/s gets there by going to 20 Mhz channels at 5 bps/Hz.  Getting wireless bandwidth equivalent to even current FiOS would require roughly 500 MHz channels - at about ten times the current cell density to get the equivalent sharing.  In other words, three million cell sites in the US, using every bit of spectrum that the FCC has ever auctioned in bands suitable for wireless broadband.  For each operator.

I&#039;m not holding my breath.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;we’ll soon find that wired broadband, including FiOS, is the thing of the past.&#8221;</p>
<p>FiOS can pump 2.4 Gb/s down a single wavelength, split among 32 subs.  If that turns out to be not enough, there&#8217;s WDM-PON or hybrid PON technology out there that can ship 2.4 Gb/s to each sub.</p>
<p>Current upper limits of radio technology max out at around 4.5 bps per Hz; even LTE&#8217;s 100 Mb/s gets there by going to 20 Mhz channels at 5 bps/Hz.  Getting wireless bandwidth equivalent to even current FiOS would require roughly 500 MHz channels &#8211; at about ten times the current cell density to get the equivalent sharing.  In other words, three million cell sites in the US, using every bit of spectrum that the FCC has ever auctioned in bands suitable for wireless broadband.  For each operator.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not holding my breath.</p>
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		<title>By: Antony</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/13/verizon-dumps-rural-access-lines-for-8-6b/#comment-210927</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you, &quot;Buying copper land lines is proving to be a sucker’s game&quot;

With the ways wireless are evolving, televisions and computers, and the demands of faster internet speed, we&#039;ll soon find that wired broadband, including FiOS, is the thing of the past.  Investments in wired technology are expensive and limited.  If Verizon doesn&#039;t sell these assets soon they will stuck with the outdated technology and might not even be able to recover the costs, not the least hamper its capital resources and investment to deliver super speed wireless technology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, &#8220;Buying copper land lines is proving to be a sucker’s game&#8221;</p>
<p>With the ways wireless are evolving, televisions and computers, and the demands of faster internet speed, we&#8217;ll soon find that wired broadband, including FiOS, is the thing of the past.  Investments in wired technology are expensive and limited.  If Verizon doesn&#8217;t sell these assets soon they will stuck with the outdated technology and might not even be able to recover the costs, not the least hamper its capital resources and investment to deliver super speed wireless technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Drake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/13/verizon-dumps-rural-access-lines-for-8-6b/#comment-210926</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Drake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CRAP CRAP CRAP.  This means we&#039;ll NEVER get FiOS in Rochester (Frontier&#039;s headquarters and bastion). I guess we&#039;re destined to remain &quot;rural&quot; forever here in Rochester, NY and get the same quality of service as those that Frontier just took off of Verizon&#039;s network.  I bet those rural customers are also disappointed that FIOS won&#039;t be coming their way any time soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CRAP CRAP CRAP.  This means we&#8217;ll NEVER get FiOS in Rochester (Frontier&#8217;s headquarters and bastion). I guess we&#8217;re destined to remain &#8220;rural&#8221; forever here in Rochester, NY and get the same quality of service as those that Frontier just took off of Verizon&#8217;s network.  I bet those rural customers are also disappointed that FIOS won&#8217;t be coming their way any time soon.</p>
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