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		<title>By: Why Investing $100M in Twitter Isn&#8217;t Crazy &#8211; GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209826</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why Investing $100M in Twitter Isn&#8217;t Crazy &#8211; GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] play the greater fool: Time-Warner with AOL, eBay with Skype, Google with YouTube, News Corp with MySpace. Even when the acquired company started churning out a profit, it was often too puny to justify the [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] play the greater fool: Time-Warner with AOL, eBay with Skype, Google with YouTube, News Corp with MySpace. Even when the acquired company started churning out a profit, it was often too puny to justify the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Leonard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Leonard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Until NewsCorp came into the picture, MySpace never sought out new ideas from its users. Never. There was no means of feedback. They ignored you. Perhaps in their heyday around 2006-2007, they were overwhelmed with the explosive rowth, however it was reported that prior to the recent management shuffling, they had a 1000 employees? What were all these employees actually doing? Personally, I really don&#039;t know myself what they could have done to change the model to keep it sucessful, however I would think at least 1 of those thousand people in that organization just might have had an idea. It&#039;s kind of like GM- it became a bloated image of it&#039;s once-self, that never could adapt to the future and never cared much to keep in touch with the market that created it to begin with.

I agree with you that they offered something different that no one was doing or was missing- greater interactivity along with self expression. They never grew beyond this, and after blowing a half a billion dollars on this folly, Newscorp never found a successful buisness model with it (they had hoped to get users to interact more with advertising- ha!). The sleazy ads didn&#039;t help much with that either- everytime I logged into MySpace I felt like I was walking through the porn district. Now add the tacky and tasteless self expression of many of the users profiles to that; It just has the look and feel of a bad neighborhood.

It got worse too, MySpace&#039;s attempt at allowing the tacky game apps and crap like &quot;People as pets&quot; further emphasize that MySpace isn&#039;t a place for social networking, it&#039;s a popularity contest that places quantity over quality, and hero worship and self importance over socializing. Despite that, in the five years I have been on MySpace, I do find the experience amusing- despite the fact that many say that they are concerned about their privacy and security, they freely give it away- never will you find a place where a complete stranger will self profess the most intimate of details without even as much as asking- things I bet their neighbors, close friends and family don&#039;t even know.

As you mentioned, the Newscorp/MySpace rise and downfall mirrors the Yahoo/Geocities rise and downfall. Based on the Geocities model, that currently leaves them with a 7 year survival. I did notice that they finally changed that horrible 1990&#039;s layout and now MySpace has open email, which gives them the ability to be the 4th largest email provider in the US. However do to the well know lack of security of the site (however I can&#039;t entirely cite fault with them, as the users easily fall for the simplest of attempts by hackers to get passwords), and the reputation that MySpace has gained in the media, I doubt if MYSpace Mail, just like MySpace itself, will ever be looked at as a &quot;serious&quot; service. Google has nothing to worry about here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until NewsCorp came into the picture, MySpace never sought out new ideas from its users. Never. There was no means of feedback. They ignored you. Perhaps in their heyday around 2006-2007, they were overwhelmed with the explosive rowth, however it was reported that prior to the recent management shuffling, they had a 1000 employees? What were all these employees actually doing? Personally, I really don&#8217;t know myself what they could have done to change the model to keep it sucessful, however I would think at least 1 of those thousand people in that organization just might have had an idea. It&#8217;s kind of like GM- it became a bloated image of it&#8217;s once-self, that never could adapt to the future and never cared much to keep in touch with the market that created it to begin with.</p>
<p>I agree with you that they offered something different that no one was doing or was missing- greater interactivity along with self expression. They never grew beyond this, and after blowing a half a billion dollars on this folly, Newscorp never found a successful buisness model with it (they had hoped to get users to interact more with advertising- ha!). The sleazy ads didn&#8217;t help much with that either- everytime I logged into MySpace I felt like I was walking through the porn district. Now add the tacky and tasteless self expression of many of the users profiles to that; It just has the look and feel of a bad neighborhood.</p>
<p>It got worse too, MySpace&#8217;s attempt at allowing the tacky game apps and crap like &#8220;People as pets&#8221; further emphasize that MySpace isn&#8217;t a place for social networking, it&#8217;s a popularity contest that places quantity over quality, and hero worship and self importance over socializing. Despite that, in the five years I have been on MySpace, I do find the experience amusing- despite the fact that many say that they are concerned about their privacy and security, they freely give it away- never will you find a place where a complete stranger will self profess the most intimate of details without even as much as asking- things I bet their neighbors, close friends and family don&#8217;t even know.</p>
<p>As you mentioned, the Newscorp/MySpace rise and downfall mirrors the Yahoo/Geocities rise and downfall. Based on the Geocities model, that currently leaves them with a 7 year survival. I did notice that they finally changed that horrible 1990&#8242;s layout and now MySpace has open email, which gives them the ability to be the 4th largest email provider in the US. However do to the well know lack of security of the site (however I can&#8217;t entirely cite fault with them, as the users easily fall for the simplest of attempts by hackers to get passwords), and the reputation that MySpace has gained in the media, I doubt if MYSpace Mail, just like MySpace itself, will ever be looked at as a &#8220;serious&#8221; service. Google has nothing to worry about here.</p>
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		<title>By: Social Media Evangelist</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209824</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Social Media Evangelist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 08:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel a few major social networks will capture a niche market gradually. Facebook will be preferred for casual interactions between business-friends, Linkedin for strict business interactions, Orket for the new converts, Myspace for music and performing arts and Twitter for....twittering! What else...

Manish Pahuja]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel a few major social networks will capture a niche market gradually. Facebook will be preferred for casual interactions between business-friends, Linkedin for strict business interactions, Orket for the new converts, Myspace for music and performing arts and Twitter for&#8230;.twittering! What else&#8230;</p>
<p>Manish Pahuja</p>
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		<title>By: jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Father has had websites on Geocities for years… and now he is totally bummed. I did some searching and found &lt;a href=&quot;http://geocitiesrescue.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;geocitiesrescue.com&lt;/a&gt; and then contacted them about what they were doing… they totally transfered my dads stuff over to a really affordable paid hosting service for him.

Just thought I would share the link.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Father has had websites on Geocities for years… and now he is totally bummed. I did some searching and found <a href="http://geocitiesrescue.com" rel="nofollow">geocitiesrescue.com</a> and then contacted them about what they were doing… they totally transfered my dads stuff over to a really affordable paid hosting service for him.</p>
<p>Just thought I would share the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Belajar Seo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Belajar Seo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in  my opinion, facebook is more better than myspace, and FB is more popular in our country, more fast and more features than my space]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in  my opinion, facebook is more better than myspace, and FB is more popular in our country, more fast and more features than my space</p>
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		<title>By: Lipstick on a Pig. &#124; iMami</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lipstick on a Pig. &#124; iMami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 20:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] while Myspace is being hailed as the new Geocities, and Facebook is basically the new Myspace, does that make Twitter the new Facebook?   Share and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] while Myspace is being hailed as the new Geocities, and Facebook is basically the new Myspace, does that make Twitter the new Facebook?   Share and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The trailer park of Internet 2.0 &#124; Stacy Holmstedt</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209820</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The trailer park of Internet 2.0 &#124; Stacy Holmstedt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Kevin Kelleher astutely makes the connection between GeoCities (RIP) and MySpace: Like GeoCities, MySpace won quick success by making it easy for people to build a customized online presence. Like GeoCities, MySpace sold out to a bigger media company that ended up a caretaker for its long years of decay. And now MySpace is slowly becoming, like GeoCities, an abandoned amusement park on the web. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kevin Kelleher astutely makes the connection between GeoCities (RIP) and MySpace: Like GeoCities, MySpace won quick success by making it easy for people to build a customized online presence. Like GeoCities, MySpace sold out to a bigger media company that ended up a caretaker for its long years of decay. And now MySpace is slowly becoming, like GeoCities, an abandoned amusement park on the web. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209819</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe that is what Owen Van Natta brings to the table. I am in the will-see-it-to-believe-it camp.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe that is what Owen Van Natta brings to the table. I am in the will-see-it-to-believe-it camp.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sigal</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209818</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Sigal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DOH, I meant Kevin, not Om. :-)

More coffee, please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOH, I meant Kevin, not Om. :-)</p>
<p>More coffee, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sigal</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Sigal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Om,

Personally, I think that while gravity is pointing in the wrong direction for MySpace today, it&#039;s hardly a case of the final chapter having been written.

A lot of this comes down to basics, like MySpace updating their segmentation thinking, and tilting the product accordingly.

For example, going forward is MySpace the portal where &quot;anything&quot; goes, or minimally the richer, more personalized version of Me?  Are there any unfair advantages to the affiliation with News Corporation (e.g., deeper access to content, better integration of that content)?  Are there sexier viral distribution tools that MySpace can bake into the platform?  Mike Jones founded Userplane so he certainly understands the power of seeding/distributing functional widgets to create scale/reach.  Finally, how do they secure developer mindshare so more apps are built on their platform (and success of same is better marketed).

As is so often the case with these things, MySpace is now being defined by what it&#039;s NOT (read: Facebook or Twitter).  Rather, than get FB-envy, they need to figure out their unique sandbox and iterate from there.  Hopefully, they don&#039;t throw the baby out with the bath water.

Cheers,

Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om,</p>
<p>Personally, I think that while gravity is pointing in the wrong direction for MySpace today, it&#8217;s hardly a case of the final chapter having been written.</p>
<p>A lot of this comes down to basics, like MySpace updating their segmentation thinking, and tilting the product accordingly.</p>
<p>For example, going forward is MySpace the portal where &#8220;anything&#8221; goes, or minimally the richer, more personalized version of Me?  Are there any unfair advantages to the affiliation with News Corporation (e.g., deeper access to content, better integration of that content)?  Are there sexier viral distribution tools that MySpace can bake into the platform?  Mike Jones founded Userplane so he certainly understands the power of seeding/distributing functional widgets to create scale/reach.  Finally, how do they secure developer mindshare so more apps are built on their platform (and success of same is better marketed).</p>
<p>As is so often the case with these things, MySpace is now being defined by what it&#8217;s NOT (read: Facebook or Twitter).  Rather, than get FB-envy, they need to figure out their unique sandbox and iterate from there.  Hopefully, they don&#8217;t throw the baby out with the bath water.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shannon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[have you spoken to any teenagers about this lately?  myspace is still working for them.  But as soon as customizable and overly busy themes became the norm everyone just ran away.

facebook seems to give individuals the ability to connect without having to leave their own page.  I.e. i can connect without having to look at your annoying profile page with all your &#039;flare&#039;, mafia war updates and quiz results.

Worth noting that there is a myspace deathwatch group on facebook... good times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you spoken to any teenagers about this lately?  myspace is still working for them.  But as soon as customizable and overly busy themes became the norm everyone just ran away.</p>
<p>facebook seems to give individuals the ability to connect without having to leave their own page.  I.e. i can connect without having to look at your annoying profile page with all your &#8216;flare&#8217;, mafia war updates and quiz results.</p>
<p>Worth noting that there is a myspace deathwatch group on facebook&#8230; good times.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Anderson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lawrence Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The core idea &amp; the core features of MySpace I think still offers an additional value to users that Facebook does not.
I still do like the idea of a custom profile design, but, they should probably develop some way to make it less flexible so that things don&#039;t end up breaking when users start to go hog wild on animated gifs, videos, photos of their favorite celebs.

A mash-up between the flexibility of MySpace and the structure of Facebook would be nice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The core idea &amp; the core features of MySpace I think still offers an additional value to users that Facebook does not.<br />
I still do like the idea of a custom profile design, but, they should probably develop some way to make it less flexible so that things don&#8217;t end up breaking when users start to go hog wild on animated gifs, videos, photos of their favorite celebs.</p>
<p>A mash-up between the flexibility of MySpace and the structure of Facebook would be nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Frenchman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Frenchman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wrote the same regarding MySpace back in September 2007.  I had no use for them back then when it came to advertising and I have no use for them now.

http://pardonmyfrench.typepad.com/pardonmyfrench/2007/09/i-still-believe.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote the same regarding MySpace back in September 2007.  I had no use for them back then when it came to advertising and I have no use for them now.</p>
<p><a href="http://pardonmyfrench.typepad.com/pardonmyfrench/2007/09/i-still-believe.html" rel="nofollow">http://pardonmyfrench.typepad.com/pardonmyfrench/2007/09/i-still-believe.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Krishna Baidya</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209813</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Krishna Baidya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[totally agree with you.... quite frustrating it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>totally agree with you&#8230;. quite frustrating it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 07:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both Facebook and MySpace have annoying shortcomings which bear their seeds of destruction. Facebook seems to have more development. But it’s so extremely poor with contact management! That truly amazes me, esp considering that it’s a social network.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Facebook and MySpace have annoying shortcomings which bear their seeds of destruction. Facebook seems to have more development. But it’s so extremely poor with contact management! That truly amazes me, esp considering that it’s a social network.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kelleher</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/05/02/why-it-may-be-too-late-to-fix-myspace/#comment-209811</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Kelleher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 07:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;I foresee something else stepping up as a place for people without dev and design skills to express themselves through design on the Web.

This is a great point - and sums up the opportunity better than I did above. What you called self-identification (15 years ago that would have been a redundant term) has always been a driving principle of success for community sites. It may be Facebook or Twitter for the moment, but these moments tend to pass rather quickly.

That said, I&#039;m not sure I agree we disagree so much. MySpace did help News Corp at first, but NWS is now struggling just as Yahoo struggled. Murdoch just had a steeper learning curve than Yahoo did with GeoCities. MySpace is most profitable right now, sure, but not only is that damning with faint praise, it overlooks Google&#039;s role in the profits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I foresee something else stepping up as a place for people without dev and design skills to express themselves through design on the Web.</p>
<p>This is a great point &#8211; and sums up the opportunity better than I did above. What you called self-identification (15 years ago that would have been a redundant term) has always been a driving principle of success for community sites. It may be Facebook or Twitter for the moment, but these moments tend to pass rather quickly.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m not sure I agree we disagree so much. MySpace did help News Corp at first, but NWS is now struggling just as Yahoo struggled. Murdoch just had a steeper learning curve than Yahoo did with GeoCities. MySpace is most profitable right now, sure, but not only is that damning with faint praise, it overlooks Google&#8217;s role in the profits.</p>
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