Comments on: Our Full Analysis of the $7.4B Oracle-Sun Deal

By: Prasad

Prasad — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:02:18 +0000

a bigbang gonna happen in IT…..
i can see brightest future of JAVA…..

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:01:16 +0000

software compnay is becoming a hardware company ( add operational cost )

Can oracle feed Sun ?

Oracle shareholders will decide

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 10 May 2009 12:13:42 +0000

Could you please give us your take on the possible impact to MySQL and OpenOffice as I note with interest you are likely the only qualified participant in this forum ?
Any “clues” would be received with the greatest of interest.

Thanks.

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 10 May 2009 12:07:22 +0000

Why would you not put it on MySQL?

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 10 May 2009 11:42:06 +0000

Very interesting perspectives.

By: me

me — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:38:33 +0000

what does OM stand for wow

By: Gajju

Gajju — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:44:39 +0000

Well, I think you apprehensions could be grossly misplaced. Experts would say that Oracle has already proved itself in the M&A domain, and this has been THE most important part for its growth strategy. In the last 4 years, it has bought nearly 50 companies, spending around $40 bn (including Sun). Although, many of these companies were small in size, they had focused and successful products. Then there were big acquisitions like PeopleSoft (along came JD Edw), Siebel, Heyperion, RETEK, BEA, I-flex, etc. The result? Oracle is already 3 times of what it used to be 4 years back, please wait for some more time, with Sun, it would grow even more.

If the other companies (like Lucent, as mentioned by you) have failed, it does not mean Oracle would follow suit. I wonder if you really have their shares :), it has the buy tag for a long time and even as most of the rivals are running half of their prices, Oracle’s shares are not doing that bad.

By: solexy

solexy — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:44:12 +0000

really, now on site mysql logo have 2 part mysql and sun

By: Aaron from NJ

Aaron from NJ — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:19:07 +0000

Oracle is going to support MySQL. There are 2 key drivers.

1) they own the database engine that MySQL uses & see the core install base of MySQL of millions of databases as a core customer base to be harvested as 10% of those will need a Oracle DB sometime in the future.

2) MySQL gives Oracle a real MS Access like database & entry level SQL Server “like” that Oracle standard edition has never become in 15 years of pushing Oracle Personal edition to basic Oracle database

I think the open source model is going to change as Oracle buys open source tool vendors and creates its own enterprise stack & open source stack. This is key in attacking the Microsoft space. Oracle goes after Microsoft with OpenSource & IBM with its Oracle Enterprise Stack. It will take 5-10 more mergers for them to pull this off but it makes sense.

The key is OpenSource system management is weak as a stack play and Oracle can sell OEM & their future system mgmt. stack as a way to manage OpenSource. It gives them a way to sell 10-50k licenses of OEM for OpenSource over the next 5 years to Opensource buyers.

By: Lorne Cooper

Lorne Cooper — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:48:29 +0000

I can imagine them putting an Oracle backend on MySQL and trying to move the MySQL companies to their “accelerator”. MySQL has always been more about “free as in beer”, than “free as in freedom”.

By: joeyd

joeyd — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:51:53 +0000

No doubt MySQL will continue to grow but it will first need to “start” beating Oracle before “continuing” to beat it on it’s own merits. And that won’t happen for at least 5-10 years out – if ever.

I’m a database professional who dives into some of the worlds most complex database environments constantly and I see plenty of the periphery. I pretty much never see MySQL in anything mission critical and where it comes closest it acts as a read-only repository loaded by hodgepodge batch solutions from the OLTP databases produced by top 3 well known DB vendors.

As it stands, Oracle’s the defacto standard, DB2 continues it’s downward slide and SQL Server continues to consistently scale better. And Teradata seems to keep popping up in the warehouses. So we’ve got a Coke, Pepsi, Mountain Dew and Dr. Pepper. MySQL can only hope to be a Fanta unless something big happens to it to help it along. And that something big could very well be this Oracle acquisition.

By: Tech at Teleox

Tech at Teleox — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:01:46 +0000

Our first reaction – What will not happen to the open source phenomenon?

Opensource are the true friends of a new high tech company with minimal money. It helps and lets the world know that if you can design, architect and produce a solution which solves real problem, people will buy from you. Now what??? [more >> http://tech-at-teleox.blogspot.com/2009/04/is-sun-going-to-set-in-west-now.html

By: Jeffrey Pugh

Jeffrey Pugh — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:59:22 +0000

Not sure where you got your statement about the Sun acquisition: “but the fact is that despite most of the MySQL team having quit…”. As the manager of the MySQL Engineering team, I can tell you that we have had less than 2% attrition in the year since Sun acquired MySQL, and our veteran engineers are still here at Sun continuing to release MySQL Server and associated products.

By: ted

ted — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:29:21 +0000

thank you mark… I want more insightful info like this… i want to know where the open source db market will head…

By: iseries

iseries — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:49:59 +0000

This is definitely a game changing move by Oracle. It basically puts them in the ring with all the major players!

Java – IBM – I suspect they will both support java and milk consultancy from their products built on it

MySQL – Oracle will milk consultancy on this one, and offer OracleDB to the bigger players. Nice way to get new customers as they grow

OpenOffice – This puts them in direct competition with Microsoft.Every install of openoffice is one less install on Microsoft Office
Servers – IBM and HP
Solaris – Solaris bundled with OracleDB and a support package. Sybase must be wetting themselves already!

The only areas I see them selling off is the server division if they could get a good price for it.

I see Oracle making mucho mucho money from this deal, especially in the consultancy arena, where HP and IBM rule at the mo

By: Avi Rosenthal

Avi Rosenthal — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:13:46 +0000

Vendors Survival: The Sun is Red – Oracle to buy Sun – First Take

http://avirosenthal.blogspot.com/2009/04/vendors-survival-sun-is-red-oracle-to.html