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		<title>By: Analisis: Oracle membeli SUN &#171; Ha&#8211;Dhiku&#8211;suma Wahab Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Analisis: Oracle membeli SUN &#171; Ha&#8211;Dhiku&#8211;suma Wahab Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] yang sangat mengejutkan di industri TI dunia, yaitu kabar bahwa Sun dibeli oleh Oracle. Sebelumnya Sun telah didekati oleh IBM dengan offering sebesar $6.5 billion namun karena tidak menemukan jalan tengah maka transaksi dibatalkan. Banyak pihak yang memang [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] yang sangat mengejutkan di industri TI dunia, yaitu kabar bahwa Sun dibeli oleh Oracle. Sebelumnya Sun telah didekati oleh IBM dengan offering sebesar $6.5 billion namun karena tidak menemukan jalan tengah maka transaksi dibatalkan. Banyak pihak yang memang [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Technology thoughts on the Oracle-Sun Deal - if your into that kinda thing. : Jamie Jackson XP</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Technology thoughts on the Oracle-Sun Deal - if your into that kinda thing. : Jamie Jackson XP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Less than a month after it walked away from a $7 billion deal with IBM, Sun Microsystems says that it has entered into a definitive merger [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Oracle to Buy Sun (and MySQL) for $7.4B [GigaOM] &#124; BYOHosting.com Blogs</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Oracle &#38; Sun To Merge&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oracle &#38; Sun To Merge&#8230;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Less than a month after it walked away from a $7 billion deal with IBM, Sun Microsystems says that it has entered into a definitive merger [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Oracle To Buy Sun For $7.4 Billion &#124; Non Stop 24</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/04/06/sun-ibm-merger-hits-a-snag/#comment-166601</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] To Buy Sun For $7.4 Billion       Less than a month after it walked away form a billion deal with IBM, Sun Microsystems says that it has entered into a definitive merger [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Oracle To Buy Sun For $7.4 Billion</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/04/06/sun-ibm-merger-hits-a-snag/#comment-166600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oracle To Buy Sun For $7.4 Billion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Malik  &#124; Monday, April 20, 2009 &#124; 5:12 AM PT &#124; 0 comments    Less than a month after it walked away form a $7 billion deal with IBM, Sun Microsystems says that it has entered into a definitive merger [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Malik  | Monday, April 20, 2009 | 5:12 AM PT | 0 comments    Less than a month after it walked away form a $7 billion deal with IBM, Sun Microsystems says that it has entered into a definitive merger [...]</p>
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		<title>By: adam hartung</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/04/06/sun-ibm-merger-hits-a-snag/#comment-166599</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[adam hartung]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sun really made only 1 big mistake.  It never changed its commitment to its initial success formula - so when the market shifted Sun had no idea what to do.  Without developing the ability to shift with markets, any company can pull a &quot;Sun&quot; and fail.  Read more at http://www.ThePhoenixPrinciple.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sun really made only 1 big mistake.  It never changed its commitment to its initial success formula &#8211; so when the market shifted Sun had no idea what to do.  Without developing the ability to shift with markets, any company can pull a &#8220;Sun&#8221; and fail.  Read more at <a href="http://www.ThePhoenixPrinciple.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ThePhoenixPrinciple.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: java_developer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/04/06/sun-ibm-merger-hits-a-snag/#comment-166598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[java_developer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They need to go private. Amen to that. Get the coke-snorters who brought you the crash of &#039;28, the Savings and Loan crisis, the Long Term Capital Management multi-billion-dollar bailout fiasco, and finally our current economic collapse OFF THEIR BACKS so they can do what companies do- create value for the marketplace.

Who the f* cares what Wall Street thinks (an oxymoron) about Sun Microsystems? Wall Street is piled up to the gills with first rate morons who aren&#039;t fit to hold a candle to anyone at Sun, much less determine their  &quot;value&quot; and decide their fate.

But that&#039;s what you get when you go public. Filth and other entities like Southern Asset Management determining whether you live or die. That&#039;s a joke. Go private, yesterday. De-list so you can get things turned around. The market changed, is that somehow Sun&#039;s fault? The dot.com bubble collapsed- was that bubble somehow Sun&#039;s doing? This is not a story about a technology company that can&#039;t make products people want. This is a story about a bunch of amphetamine-gulping, Ayn Rand reading coke-heads who have turned Sun into their presumptive vehicle to get their next money-high from.

 Dump them, then go back to work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need to go private. Amen to that. Get the coke-snorters who brought you the crash of &#8217;28, the Savings and Loan crisis, the Long Term Capital Management multi-billion-dollar bailout fiasco, and finally our current economic collapse OFF THEIR BACKS so they can do what companies do- create value for the marketplace.</p>
<p>Who the f* cares what Wall Street thinks (an oxymoron) about Sun Microsystems? Wall Street is piled up to the gills with first rate morons who aren&#8217;t fit to hold a candle to anyone at Sun, much less determine their  &#8220;value&#8221; and decide their fate.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s what you get when you go public. Filth and other entities like Southern Asset Management determining whether you live or die. That&#8217;s a joke. Go private, yesterday. De-list so you can get things turned around. The market changed, is that somehow Sun&#8217;s fault? The dot.com bubble collapsed- was that bubble somehow Sun&#8217;s doing? This is not a story about a technology company that can&#8217;t make products people want. This is a story about a bunch of amphetamine-gulping, Ayn Rand reading coke-heads who have turned Sun into their presumptive vehicle to get their next money-high from.</p>
<p> Dump them, then go back to work.</p>
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		<title>By: ripratm</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/04/06/sun-ibm-merger-hits-a-snag/#comment-166597</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe sun is exactly targeting Jim in accounting, or even the
&quot;general public&quot; as their target audience for Solaris.   I have a feeling they
are targeting the sys admins (for whom they are also selling servers, arrays,
software, etc) whom are trained to use the 25 year old OS thus do not require
20 commands to start a single process.   In my personal experience that i&#039;ve
never had to open a flash presentation on one of my servers (which is the target platform btw)
 through an ssh tunnels (I don&#039;t know to many other sys admins have either).

Instead of trying to make the OS flashy, with the use of souped up GUI&#039;s, Flash, mp3
players, dvd players etc, SUN has been spending the past 30 years getting
solaris to scale to an obscene amount of processors, not melt when it reaches
a load of more that 5.

I think they are their priorities for an enterprise OS, which is more than what i can say about other companies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe sun is exactly targeting Jim in accounting, or even the<br />
&#8220;general public&#8221; as their target audience for Solaris.   I have a feeling they<br />
are targeting the sys admins (for whom they are also selling servers, arrays,<br />
software, etc) whom are trained to use the 25 year old OS thus do not require<br />
20 commands to start a single process.   In my personal experience that i&#8217;ve<br />
never had to open a flash presentation on one of my servers (which is the target platform btw)<br />
 through an ssh tunnels (I don&#8217;t know to many other sys admins have either).</p>
<p>Instead of trying to make the OS flashy, with the use of souped up GUI&#8217;s, Flash, mp3<br />
players, dvd players etc, SUN has been spending the past 30 years getting<br />
solaris to scale to an obscene amount of processors, not melt when it reaches<br />
a load of more that 5.</p>
<p>I think they are their priorities for an enterprise OS, which is more than what i can say about other companies.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  What&#8217;s Next, Now That The Sun-IBM Merger Is Off Updated: Late last night, The New York Times reported that IBM&#8217;s (s ibm) rumored $7 billion acquisition of Sun [...] [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: mistah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mistah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this another founder CEO coming back scenario just like Jobs returning to Apple  (circa mid-1990&#039;s) and shift things around? I am hopeful but with a little doubt. I think it would be better if Apple would buy Sun, since OS X is unix by heart the solaris technology could add more blades to there OS, as they more to the 64bit computing,  beside slicing a pie of the server market would be another growth area  for Apple, beside laptops, iphones and ipod. Besides ideally both company develops their own hardware and software together. Why not buy something that think differently like they do?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this another founder CEO coming back scenario just like Jobs returning to Apple  (circa mid-1990&#8242;s) and shift things around? I am hopeful but with a little doubt. I think it would be better if Apple would buy Sun, since OS X is unix by heart the solaris technology could add more blades to there OS, as they more to the 64bit computing,  beside slicing a pie of the server market would be another growth area  for Apple, beside laptops, iphones and ipod. Besides ideally both company develops their own hardware and software together. Why not buy something that think differently like they do?</p>
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		<title>By: RoRo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RoRo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sun was started in the 70&#039;s and is still doing business with a 25 years old OS.. I have used ZFS and it&#039;s the neatest thing since sliced bread. but when a OS cannot open a flash presentation , is so difficult that they need 20 commands to start a process ,hence the TEAMS OS unix admins, the general public will not enbrace..could you imagion Jim in accounting tring to use the command line to run his accounting package?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sun was started in the 70&#8242;s and is still doing business with a 25 years old OS.. I have used ZFS and it&#8217;s the neatest thing since sliced bread. but when a OS cannot open a flash presentation , is so difficult that they need 20 commands to start a process ,hence the TEAMS OS unix admins, the general public will not enbrace..could you imagion Jim in accounting tring to use the command line to run his accounting package?</p>
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		<title>By: Karthik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/04/06/sun-ibm-merger-hits-a-snag/#comment-166593</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karthik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it hard to buy the argument that Sun should be given another chance only because it was a storied company in the past. A company&#039;s valuation is driven by its future potential, and it doesn&#039;t look like Sun has much of a future under its current management. Hence, the anemic market valuation, and the lack of interested buyers, etc.

Even if it were to be taken private (under a different management team), one would have to sell off non-core/under-performing assets and focus on its core strength (whatever that is). That option would still entail laying off a significant number of employees, increasing operational efficiency, etc. Frankly, it would be similar to the IBM takeover case except that there might be some differences in what gets hived off. While I agree Sun might have options other than an IBM takeover, I think Sun would have to evolve into a completely different (and smaller) company with all the other options.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to buy the argument that Sun should be given another chance only because it was a storied company in the past. A company&#8217;s valuation is driven by its future potential, and it doesn&#8217;t look like Sun has much of a future under its current management. Hence, the anemic market valuation, and the lack of interested buyers, etc.</p>
<p>Even if it were to be taken private (under a different management team), one would have to sell off non-core/under-performing assets and focus on its core strength (whatever that is). That option would still entail laying off a significant number of employees, increasing operational efficiency, etc. Frankly, it would be similar to the IBM takeover case except that there might be some differences in what gets hived off. While I agree Sun might have options other than an IBM takeover, I think Sun would have to evolve into a completely different (and smaller) company with all the other options.</p>
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		<title>By: jv</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where is the value in Sun? Every other story talks about the cloud. The largest cloud deployment on the planet is Amazons and it runs on Linux so IBM doesn&#039;t need Sun for that. Besides cloud computing is all about cost and Sun can&#039;t compete there. Btrfs is progressing nicely so ZFS is only important to Solaris.

MySQL has forked several times and almost no one considers MySQL the official one any more. Open Office has forked and most people use the one at Novel as the official tree now. Sparc will be killed off or sold to Fujistu no matter what happens. Solaris has been dyeing for years and no one is going to risk rolling out new deployments now unless they absolutely have no other choice.

With so much tech already being virtualized Java has less and less meaning. After all why do you need a virtual machine if you are already running in a virtual machine?   There is still some value in Java for performing shake downs but that is about it.

None of it adds up to 8 billion even after you take the cash, property and other fairly liquid assets into account.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the value in Sun? Every other story talks about the cloud. The largest cloud deployment on the planet is Amazons and it runs on Linux so IBM doesn&#8217;t need Sun for that. Besides cloud computing is all about cost and Sun can&#8217;t compete there. Btrfs is progressing nicely so ZFS is only important to Solaris.</p>
<p>MySQL has forked several times and almost no one considers MySQL the official one any more. Open Office has forked and most people use the one at Novel as the official tree now. Sparc will be killed off or sold to Fujistu no matter what happens. Solaris has been dyeing for years and no one is going to risk rolling out new deployments now unless they absolutely have no other choice.</p>
<p>With so much tech already being virtualized Java has less and less meaning. After all why do you need a virtual machine if you are already running in a virtual machine?   There is still some value in Java for performing shake downs but that is about it.</p>
<p>None of it adds up to 8 billion even after you take the cash, property and other fairly liquid assets into account.</p>
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		<title>By: Fenixnordic Group &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sun-IBM Tie-Up Reportedly Hits Snag</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/04/06/sun-ibm-merger-hits-a-snag/#comment-166591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fenixnordic Group &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sun-IBM Tie-Up Reportedly Hits Snag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Om Malik, who covered Sun for years as a reporter, has one idea: Consider going private. The four Sun co-founders — Scott McNealy, Bill Joy, Vinod Khosla and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Om Malik, who covered Sun for years as a reporter, has one idea: Consider going private. The four Sun co-founders — Scott McNealy, Bill Joy, Vinod Khosla and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hickins</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now... Microsoft should buy Sun out from under IBM&#039;s nose. As I argue &lt;a href=&quot;http://industry.bnet.com/technology/10001286/microsoft-should-acquire-sun-now/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, that would serve the purpose of poking IBM in the eye while potentially giving Microsoft access to some technology and markets (like govt and education) where having an open source alternative would be an open-sesame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now&#8230; Microsoft should buy Sun out from under IBM&#8217;s nose. As I argue <a href="http://industry.bnet.com/technology/10001286/microsoft-should-acquire-sun-now/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, that would serve the purpose of poking IBM in the eye while potentially giving Microsoft access to some technology and markets (like govt and education) where having an open source alternative would be an open-sesame.</p>
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