Comments on: The Open Cloud Manifesto Is Nothing But a Vapor Tiger

By: Can Intel and $50B in IT Budgets Achieve Open Clouds?: Cloud «

Can Intel and $50B in IT Budgets Achieve Open Clouds?: Cloud « — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:42:39 +0000

[...] the questionable track record of cloud standards bodies and industry alliances. Some, like the Open Cloud Manifesto, barely got off the ground before crashing and burning. Others carry on, but it remains to be seen [...]

By: Telcos Eye the Cloud – GigaOM

Telcos Eye the Cloud – GigaOM — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:03:29 +0000

[...] is rampant, the setting of those specifications could prove a contentious issue. Recall the fiasco that was IBM’s ( s ibm) Open Cloud Manifesto and the relatively mild document that resulted [...]

By: 2010 Cloud Computing Predictions: The Year of Realism | Cloudcast

2010 Cloud Computing Predictions: The Year of Realism | Cloudcast — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:37:57 +0000

[...] year, culminating in Gartner placing cloud computing at the peak of its hype cycle in July. We saw controversy around the Open Cloud Manifesto, the federal government getting into cloud computing with apps.gov, [...]

By: Can the Open Group Become the RightScale of Cloud Standards?

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[...] Open Group has been working on cloud computing for about a year and already has liaised with the Open Cloud Manifesto group, the Cloud Security Alliance (CSA), and the Cloud Computing Interoperability Forum, among [...]

By: With Commercialization of the Cloud, It’s Déjà vu

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[...] of the Internet, both the benefits and barriers to such a transition are being hotly debated. Similarly, we now stand at a tipping point at which mainstream enterprises are seeing the value [...]

By: IBM Tries to Sell Enterprises on Workload-Specific Clouds

IBM Tries to Sell Enterprises on Workload-Specific Clouds — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:01:53 +0000

[...] February and use our job scheduling software to schedule across domains. We have our efforts on the Open Cloud Manifesto, and have had public demonstrations extending our service management software so it can manage [...]

By: TechWrap » Heroku to Exit Beta, Start Charging for Cloud Computing

TechWrap » Heroku to Exit Beta, Start Charging for Cloud Computing — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:13:23 +0000

[...] move their apps to another cloud that supports Ruby. (The company also notably signed on to the much-maligned — and much-supported — Open Cloud [...]

By: Heroku to Exit Beta, Start Charging for Cloud Computing

Heroku to Exit Beta, Start Charging for Cloud Computing — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:00:37 +0000

[...] move their apps to another cloud that supports Ruby. (The company also notably signed on to the much-maligned — and much-supported — Open Cloud [...]

By: The GigaOM Interview: Russ Daniels, HP’s Cloud Guru

The GigaOM Interview: Russ Daniels, HP’s Cloud Guru — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:01:10 +0000

[...] chief technology officer of HP’s Cloud Services Strategy division, to see where HP stood on openness in the cloud and how the rise of external clouds might affect the hardware business. Hewlett-Packard sells [...]

By: Clouds Can Be Secured, So Let’s Talk About the Real Issues

Clouds Can Be Secured, So Let’s Talk About the Real Issues — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:01:35 +0000

[...] where information is kept. Perhaps once Washington recognizes these things, cloud debates will be less about spreading FUD, and more about clearing some of the fog. [...]

By: The GigaOM Weekly Recap:

The GigaOM Weekly Recap: — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:43:36 +0000

[...] Open Cloud Manifesto, Nothing But Vapor [...]

By: The Open Cloud Manifesto « powerx7

The Open Cloud Manifesto « powerx7 — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:17:31 +0000

[...] amigos” y estandarizaciones de facto. En realidad, el Open Cloud Manifesto es un documento enormemente generalista y abierto, que pretende sentar definiciones y bases de funcionamiento de cara al futuro, y en ese [...]

By: Experts Get Serious About Cloud Security

Experts Get Serious About Cloud Security — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:58:13 +0000

[...] its official launch at the RSA Conference later this month, the CSA seems more legit than the “vapor tiger” Open Cloud Manifesto. As opposed to over-competitive vendors proposing — and quibbling over — non-binding, [...]

By: OStatic Buffer Overflow | google android os blog

OStatic Buffer Overflow | google android os blog — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:34:55 +0000

[...] The Open Cloud Manifesto is nothing but a vapor tiger. IBM is the lead toward this purported push toward an open, interoperable cloud model. [...]

By: Publicado el Open Cloud Manifesto | AtajoTV

Publicado el Open Cloud Manifesto | AtajoTV — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:30:17 +0000

[...] información en: http://www.opencloudmanifesto.org http://www.businessweek.com http://gigaom.com [...]

By: Ken Sheppardson

Ken Sheppardson — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:30:36 +0000

Sure, the first five pages of general background are pretty innocuous, but it’s all just a set-up for the Principles on the last page. I suspect they’re what might have turned off the folks at Google, Microsoft, and Amazon. Specifically:

“2. Cloud providers must not use their market position to lock customers into their particular platforms and limit their choice of providers.”

“3. Cloud providers must use and adopt existing standards wherever appropriate.”

Who decides when a vendor is locking in customers? Who decides when and where existing standards are appropriate? How do you enforce these? Is this some sort of binding, legal document? It seems perfectly reasonable for Microsoft et al to have reacted the way they did.