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Michael Robertson, founder of Gizmo5, which recently released a service that enables free calls to Skype called OpenSky, calls the new Skype-for SIP service vaporware. It’s great to see Skype inching towards a more interoperable world with their Skype for SIP service. Even if this is […]

ceomichaelrobertson002jpgMichael Robertson, founder of Gizmo5, which recently released a service that enables free calls to Skype called OpenSky, calls the new Skype-for SIP service vaporware.

It’s great to see Skype inching towards a more interoperable world with their Skype for SIP service. Even if this is complete vaporware at least their heart is in the right direction. Last year they announced Skype for Asterisk which is still not yet released and it’s unclear what the pricing will be. Skype For SIP is similar in that it is not yet available and pricing details are murky but both are steps in the right direction.

Hard to dismiss Michael’s argument, though one has to point out that Skype for SIP does impact his business. Fellow VoIP Blogger Tom Keating heard from a Skype spokesperson:

“The product is available now. It’s using the same Skype technology that has been tested & deployed for the last 5 years. He’s saying December 2009 – that’s not the case.”

(Head-to-head comparison between two services below the fold.)

OpenSky vs Skype for SIP
OpenSky 2.0 (Gizmo5) SkypeforSIP (ebay)
Receive Skype calls on SIP software and hard=
ware
Yes Yes
Place Skype calls to SIP devices Yes Yes
Answer/Call Skype from browser Yes No
Includes free voicemail Yes No
Free trial Up to 5 minute calls to Skype No
Single user cost $20/per year No
50 User Pricing $800/per year $2499 purchase plus annual fee*
Per call PSTN connection fee None 3.9 cents
Availability Now Dec. 2009*
Supported codecs g729, ilbc, pcmu/pcma, gsm, speex, and custom g729
* Estimated
  1. John McDougal Tuesday, March 24, 2009

    Tom Keating got some comments from a Skype representative on Michael’s claims. Some of Michael’s claims are BS.

    read it here:
    http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/skype/opensky-vs-skypeforsip.asp

    1. John

      thanks for the link. Of course, it is going to be a lot of “war of the words” which is going to spill over into the blogosphere.

  2. courtney benson Tuesday, March 24, 2009

    Do thank my good friend Mark Ursino for coining the term “Vaporware”

  3. Markus Göbel’s Tech News Comments Tuesday, March 24, 2009

    I dont’ get it.

    Can somebody please tell me how to receive Skype calls on my SIP address from Gizmo5?

    I’ve read the OpenSky instructions 3 times. But they don’t tell, although Michael Robertson states that you can “receive Skype calls on SIP software and hardware”. That’s just not true. The only thing that you can do is to make Skypeout calls to the phone number which is associated to every Gizmo5 account. But that costs and probably it touches the PSTN. It’s not “receive Skype calls on SIP software and hardware”.

    Can Michael or another expert please explain?

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  5. Maybe he should focus more on getting a decent business product offering and less on calling other people’s products vaporware. I have been waiting for over a year for them to get their act together on this matter… They take about 6 months to reply to tech support queries even for paid services. They were good out the door, with their DID coverage, and asterisk integration, since then they have been only disapointed.

  6. How is it people paying for products can’t get any replies to emails but the head of the company can put down other products? Gizmo does good have a good product set that I personally use, however their attention to customer service for paying customers is severely lacking. They missed the boat on the backdoor calling, many people would have paid for the service, but they could not figure that out for some reason. They mentioned porting numbers through and I was even willing to pay for their very high porting fee of $40 but I never heard back about it and so I went on to Vitelity for porting. Their international rates could also use some adjustments too.

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  7. classic cat fight

  8. Markus Göbel’s Tech News Comments Tuesday, March 24, 2009

    Can somebody please tell me how to receive Skype calls on SIP software and hardware?

    I’ve read the OpenSky manual 3 times but I didn’t find it. In fact it’s not possible.

    The only way I see is to call the phone number that is associated to every Gizmo5 account via Skypeout. But this costs money and probably touches the PSTN. It’s not “receive Skype calls on SIP software and hardware” as Michael Robertson states.

    Can Michael or another expert please explain?

    1. Markus – you are correct – the OpenSky manual does NOT tell you how to do Skype to SIP calls!

      As neither Skype nor Gizmo appear to be able to produce a complete solution then perhaps a good comprimise would be to use Skype for SIP to facilitate Skype -> SIP calls, and OpenSky to run SIP -> Skype!

      1. Quick follow up:

        Dameon (Phoneboy) details how to set up two-way Skype SIP Calling here: http://phoneboy.com/2952/opensky-opens-skype-but-does-it-work

  9. » Skype: El que la sigue, la consigue :: SinoLogic :: Noticias y comentarios sobre VoIP, Asterisk, PBX, GUI, SIP, Unified Communications, etc… Wednesday, March 25, 2009

    [...] *Actualización* Parece que a la gente de Gizmo5 no le ha hecho mucha gracia que Skype le haga la competencia directa y el fundador acaba de publicar unos detalles que descnocíamos: Podeis encontrarlo aquí: http://gigaom.com/2009/03/24/gizmo5-founder-skype-for-sip-is-vaporware/ [...]

  10. Of course, if you have your own free Asterisk server, you can set up your own free Skype gateway in about 15 minutes and avoid the wait for any of the futureware. And what about performance? We set up a demo machine on a shared Comcast broadband connection so you can compare connection quality for yourself. Using any Skype phone, just call: nerdvittles. Better yet, read our recipe and install your own Skype gateway to Asterisk:

    http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=587

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