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		<title>By: How to be a Good Friend on Facebook&#160;&#124;&#160;Laura Good</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/03/23/aol-yahoo-will-add-life-streams-to-their-popular-web-services/#comment-164676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How to be a Good Friend on Facebook&#160;&#124;&#160;Laura Good]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AOL Launches Socialthing; Adds Life Streams, Social Sharing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AOL Launches Socialthing; Adds Life Streams, Social Sharing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Malik  &#124; Tuesday, April 28, 2009 &#124; 5:57 AM PT &#124; 0 comments    Remember tha t article I wrote about AOL&#8217;s upcoming life streaming platform. Well it has come to market as [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Good Reads &#171; VCMike&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/03/23/aol-yahoo-will-add-life-streams-to-their-popular-web-services/#comment-164674</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jerome Garot</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/03/23/aol-yahoo-will-add-life-streams-to-their-popular-web-services/#comment-164673</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerome Garot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Twitter and Facebook are getting so big, it was only a matter of time they hopped on board with the News Feed thing.
Expect Microsoft to jump in late again!

~ Jerome Garot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter and Facebook are getting so big, it was only a matter of time they hopped on board with the News Feed thing.<br />
Expect Microsoft to jump in late again!</p>
<p>~ Jerome Garot</p>
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		<title>By: alizee</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/03/23/aol-yahoo-will-add-life-streams-to-their-popular-web-services/#comment-164672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alizee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing in here about Hotmail or MSN joining in on this. I would love for my Microsoft Live account to have a stream of all my social sites..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing in here about Hotmail or MSN joining in on this. I would love for my Microsoft Live account to have a stream of all my social sites..</p>
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		<title>By: coxy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/03/23/aol-yahoo-will-add-life-streams-to-their-popular-web-services/#comment-164671</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[coxy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting; I didn&#039;t know this - thanks for sharing. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting; I didn&#8217;t know this &#8211; thanks for sharing. :)</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/03/23/aol-yahoo-will-add-life-streams-to-their-popular-web-services/#comment-164670</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately it wasn&#039;t a vision and strategy problem -- just execution in Y!s case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately it wasn&#8217;t a vision and strategy problem &#8212; just execution in Y!s case.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave McClure</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/03/23/aol-yahoo-will-add-life-streams-to-their-popular-web-services/#comment-164669</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave McClure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sorry upgrade AOL to C+ if you count the (probably a bit overpriced) purchase of Bebo + the (smart &amp; inexpensive) purchase of SocialThing.  both decent moves, but rather late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry upgrade AOL to C+ if you count the (probably a bit overpriced) purchase of Bebo + the (smart &amp; inexpensive) purchase of SocialThing.  both decent moves, but rather late.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave McClure</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave McClure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow, impressive.. it&#039;s only taken 3-4 years for the major competitive consumer services to ape the NewsFeed.

while it&#039;s obvious that news feeds have been one of the biggest user experience innovations of the past 5 years (pioneered by LiveJournal, not Facebook actually), it&#039;s already old news.  the fact that it takes 3+ years and acquisitions for the other large portal battleships to turn about make it clear how far behind they really are.  Google is the only one that&#039;s even close to having a competitive offering, and they wouldn&#039;t even be close if it weren&#039;t for MySpace opting to use OpenSocial as part of its foundation.

meanwhile, the train has already left the station on using social networks as identity mgmt systems.  except that again, YHOO/MSFT/AOL and even GOOG are playing catchup about 1-3 years too late.  even MySpace is moving faster than the rest of those folks.  Google is barely even launching its social standard on its own properties (nothing on Gmail or YouTube yet, minimally on iGoogle even).  and i STILL can&#039;t create a basic friends list that&#039;s portable to other 3rd-party services from my Gmail account.  unless i&#039;ve missed something, this is also true for Yahoo &amp; MSFT on their mail systems.

of course, no one has closed the loop yet on the 3rd leg of the stool: payments.  when that happens, look for usage &amp; monetization to explode.

sorry this is a long rant in the comments.  should be a blog post on my own site.

anyway, good piece om.... but i think you&#039;re not being critical enough of how late the major players are to the table.  Arguably, YHOO, MSFT, &amp; AOL have missed out on HUGE amounts of innovation &amp; value by waiting to so long on using hosted email as a social networking platform.  and even though Google has tried to play its hand well, the results do not look terribly promising thus far.

as much as Facebook is criticized for lack of monetization, the rest of the big players should be criticized even more harshly for lack of vision, strategy, and execution on social platforms.  Google gets a B- or C+, MSFT &amp; AOL get Ds, and Yahoo gets a big fat F.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, impressive.. it&#8217;s only taken 3-4 years for the major competitive consumer services to ape the NewsFeed.</p>
<p>while it&#8217;s obvious that news feeds have been one of the biggest user experience innovations of the past 5 years (pioneered by LiveJournal, not Facebook actually), it&#8217;s already old news.  the fact that it takes 3+ years and acquisitions for the other large portal battleships to turn about make it clear how far behind they really are.  Google is the only one that&#8217;s even close to having a competitive offering, and they wouldn&#8217;t even be close if it weren&#8217;t for MySpace opting to use OpenSocial as part of its foundation.</p>
<p>meanwhile, the train has already left the station on using social networks as identity mgmt systems.  except that again, YHOO/MSFT/AOL and even GOOG are playing catchup about 1-3 years too late.  even MySpace is moving faster than the rest of those folks.  Google is barely even launching its social standard on its own properties (nothing on Gmail or YouTube yet, minimally on iGoogle even).  and i STILL can&#8217;t create a basic friends list that&#8217;s portable to other 3rd-party services from my Gmail account.  unless i&#8217;ve missed something, this is also true for Yahoo &amp; MSFT on their mail systems.</p>
<p>of course, no one has closed the loop yet on the 3rd leg of the stool: payments.  when that happens, look for usage &amp; monetization to explode.</p>
<p>sorry this is a long rant in the comments.  should be a blog post on my own site.</p>
<p>anyway, good piece om&#8230;. but i think you&#8217;re not being critical enough of how late the major players are to the table.  Arguably, YHOO, MSFT, &amp; AOL have missed out on HUGE amounts of innovation &amp; value by waiting to so long on using hosted email as a social networking platform.  and even though Google has tried to play its hand well, the results do not look terribly promising thus far.</p>
<p>as much as Facebook is criticized for lack of monetization, the rest of the big players should be criticized even more harshly for lack of vision, strategy, and execution on social platforms.  Google gets a B- or C+, MSFT &amp; AOL get Ds, and Yahoo gets a big fat F.</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing in here about Hotmail or MSN joining in on this.  I would love for my Microsoft Live account to have a stream of all my social sites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing in here about Hotmail or MSN joining in on this.  I would love for my Microsoft Live account to have a stream of all my social sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Randomness Prevails &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2009-03-23</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Twitter Craze coming soon to Yahoo &amp; AOL Mail / IM (tags: digg twitter yahoo facebook) [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Goodrich</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/03/23/aol-yahoo-will-add-life-streams-to-their-popular-web-services/#comment-164665</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Goodrich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Life streaming = a bit &#039;old&#039; already...if my start up with zero external funding &amp; 2.7 million visitors last month (this month, about 3.5) has had &quot;friend activity feeds&quot; which is what we&#039;ve been calling them for about a year and a half...then AOL &amp; Yahoo are both late to the party.

While Yahoo *did* acquire mybloglog...does it have the &quot;panache&quot; of friendfeed? Nope, not according to most bloggers...while it has that functionality, it didn&#039;t go on to do the whole &quot;mybloglogging of Yahoo&quot;...like flickr was supposed to do (eg, the &quot;flickrization of Yahoo&quot; from the 2005-2007 era, as I was ending my time there).

Fast forward to today:
AOL =...what&#039;s TMZ got to do with it? Oh, right, that&#039;s where the value is, in the stuff that doesn&#039;t have the AOL name &amp; people don&#039;t think is *part* of AOL.
Yahoo = disconnected pile of stuff, which in pieces is pretty cool, in sum, isn&#039;t nearly as good as the parts.
Facebook = only hot as long as they lose money...once they need to, they&#039;re done, *unless* then can figure out non punch the monkey revenue.

Lifestreaming, friend news feeds etc don&#039;t a company make...it&#039;s the utility of the product, the interconnectedness of the parts, the experience that make it fun, new and gain traction.

Carol Bartz (and Tim Armstrong, imho) both need to re-read &quot;The Innovator&#039;s Dillemma&quot; and think about a &quot;Spin - In&quot; concept, whereby they cr@p something based on their parts that can grow, scale and eventually swallow back the mothership...as righting the old won&#039;t make them competitive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life streaming = a bit &#8216;old&#8217; already&#8230;if my start up with zero external funding &amp; 2.7 million visitors last month (this month, about 3.5) has had &#8220;friend activity feeds&#8221; which is what we&#8217;ve been calling them for about a year and a half&#8230;then AOL &amp; Yahoo are both late to the party.</p>
<p>While Yahoo *did* acquire mybloglog&#8230;does it have the &#8220;panache&#8221; of friendfeed? Nope, not according to most bloggers&#8230;while it has that functionality, it didn&#8217;t go on to do the whole &#8220;mybloglogging of Yahoo&#8221;&#8230;like flickr was supposed to do (eg, the &#8220;flickrization of Yahoo&#8221; from the 2005-2007 era, as I was ending my time there).</p>
<p>Fast forward to today:<br />
AOL =&#8230;what&#8217;s TMZ got to do with it? Oh, right, that&#8217;s where the value is, in the stuff that doesn&#8217;t have the AOL name &amp; people don&#8217;t think is *part* of AOL.<br />
Yahoo = disconnected pile of stuff, which in pieces is pretty cool, in sum, isn&#8217;t nearly as good as the parts.<br />
Facebook = only hot as long as they lose money&#8230;once they need to, they&#8217;re done, *unless* then can figure out non punch the monkey revenue.</p>
<p>Lifestreaming, friend news feeds etc don&#8217;t a company make&#8230;it&#8217;s the utility of the product, the interconnectedness of the parts, the experience that make it fun, new and gain traction.</p>
<p>Carol Bartz (and Tim Armstrong, imho) both need to re-read &#8220;The Innovator&#8217;s Dillemma&#8221; and think about a &#8220;Spin &#8211; In&#8221; concept, whereby they cr@p something based on their parts that can grow, scale and eventually swallow back the mothership&#8230;as righting the old won&#8217;t make them competitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody Simms</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cody Simms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Om,
The Yahoo! Updates API is open: http://developer.yahoo.com/updates
Check out the integration that JS-Kit did already: http://blog.js-kit.com/2009/03/04/js-kit-and-yahoo/
Updates are currently being displayed to users in the newest versions of Yahoo! Messenger, Yahoo! Mail, Yahoo! Toolbar, and the Yahoo! Profile.  Each of these will ramp its distribution footprint for Updates significantly over the course of the year.  Our goal is to build a massive distribution platform for publishers and developers and to let users see what people they care about are doing all over the web.

Cheers,
-c

Cody Simms
Senior Director, Product Management
Yahoo! Open Strategy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Om,<br />
The Yahoo! Updates API is open: <a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/updates" rel="nofollow">http://developer.yahoo.com/updates</a><br />
Check out the integration that JS-Kit did already: <a href="http://blog.js-kit.com/2009/03/04/js-kit-and-yahoo/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.js-kit.com/2009/03/04/js-kit-and-yahoo/</a><br />
Updates are currently being displayed to users in the newest versions of Yahoo! Messenger, Yahoo! Mail, Yahoo! Toolbar, and the Yahoo! Profile.  Each of these will ramp its distribution footprint for Updates significantly over the course of the year.  Our goal is to build a massive distribution platform for publishers and developers and to let users see what people they care about are doing all over the web.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
-c</p>
<p>Cody Simms<br />
Senior Director, Product Management<br />
Yahoo! Open Strategy</p>
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		<title>By: Hm Har</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hm Har]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[News feeds come from news sources, like newspapers, the AP, CNN... not some self-important tool telling us about his sandwich.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News feeds come from news sources, like newspapers, the AP, CNN&#8230; not some self-important tool telling us about his sandwich.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hm Har

It is not clear what youa re trying to say. Can you elaborate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm Har</p>
<p>It is not clear what youa re trying to say. Can you elaborate?</p>
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		<title>By: Hm Har</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hm Har]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are not &quot;news feeds.&quot;  This is glorified, and yet degraded, &quot;blogging.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are not &#8220;news feeds.&#8221;  This is glorified, and yet degraded, &#8220;blogging.&#8221;</p>
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