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The end of the Pioneer Kuro line of TVs represented a true tipping point in the TV industry, one preceded by long-gestating momentum from opposing forces. The recession and LCDs tipped over plasmas for good, and the slope downward will be quite steep, and fast. Last […]

The Pioneer Kuro line will be gone by March 2010The end of the Pioneer Kuro line of TVs represented a true tipping point in the TV industry, one preceded by long-gestating momentum from opposing forces. The recession and LCDs tipped over plasmas for good, and the slope downward will be quite steep, and fast.

Last week, Pioneer announced it was killing off its critically acclaimed TV business by March 2010 and will concentrate on car and audio/visual systems. It was a dramatic fall for a company that just one year ago had CES abuzz with its newest plasma TV, the so-called “Ultimate Black” Kuro.

The Kuro’s tech was impressive because it reduced light emissions from black areas of the screen to such a degree that at its maximum brightness, the contrast ratio was “almost infinite.” The result was a plasma display with the most vibrant, colorful images yet.

But even at the hype’s peak, problems in the plasma industry were apparent.

Plasmas were at their most popular from 2004 to 2006, a period that saw them overtake rear-projection TVs as the top big-TV format. But they had a tough time offsetting their lowest average prices with high sale volumes. The spectre of LCDs also prompted many customers to hold off on making a purchase. By February ’08, soon after the recession had officially taken hold, premium-quality Pioneers seemed out of touch. Most critically, LCDs were sporting features long the domain of plasma: bigger screens, greater contrast ratios, thinner and cheaper sets. LCD picture quality still failed to reach plasma levels, but to average consumers, the difference was no longer obvious.

Fast-forward to the start of 2009, and LCDs were outselling plasmas 8-to-1 globally, and the dominating the best-selling lists on Amazon.com.

Pioneer tried a last-ditch partnership with Panasonic to create a version of its plasma TVs, contributing its own “secret sauce” to keep the Kuro tech flowing, but that effort appears to be over.

The slumping demand is already having consequences: Projected losses of $1.41 billion in 2008-09 (following a loss of $203 million in 2007-08) and a nearly 50 percent drop in operating revenue have set the scene for 10,000 jobs cuts and the closing of U.S., UK and Japanese facilities. But Pioneer’s not the only TV maker suffering. They’re all taking it on the chin, regardless of display type.

Both Hitachi andVizio had to end the bleeding by shuttering plasmas to concentrate on LCDs. And not even the usually flush holiday period buoyed TV companies to a safe financial landing: Sony, Panasonic, and LG all posted lower quarterly profits.

Component suppliers have similarly been unable to escape the pain. As Om noted in recent posts, screen manufacturer Corning posted fourth-quarter 2008 revenues of $1.1 billion and still had to let go of 3,500 jobs.

Pioneer’s decision to end its plasma production was more complicated. It bought out NEC’s plasma business in 2004, used it as an OEM for its glass, but was recently forced to shutter the unit. Now, the only plasma manufacturers left standing are Panasonic, LG, and Samsung, all of which make their own components.

Panasonic is in good position to benefit from Kuro’s death. Most of the Pioneer engineers who came up with Kuro switched sides and are now working for Panasonic. In addition, recent demos have shown that Panasonic plasmas are nearing Kuro quality. Already in possession of the biggest plasma market share in the world (at more than 35 percent), the company will be able to build a diversified product line using plasma TVs as a premium screen type that appeals to a niche that still wants them.  Add to that the fact that it receives significant revenues from selling its glass to other companies, including JVC and Fujitsu, and it appears that it’ll be able to keep plasmas afloat longer than any other company. Panasonic will inherit the burdens of the difficult economy and the LCD challenge, but once plasma is no longer economically feasible, its own LCDs will have likely caught up in picture quality. In fact, ultimate black contrast tech is already getting closer to LCDs.  So it’s only a matter of a few years (maybe even less) before plasmas finally die out.

As for Pioneer, not all is lost. Reps say that the plasma TVs only accounted for 14 percent of its business worldwide, and patents for the Kuro technology will provide a profit for awhile. But any positives are bittersweet. The legacy of the Kuro TV will be that it was another best-in-class technology that was humbled by the force of the economy and the competitive market.

– Follow Jose Fermoso on Twitter at twitter.com/fermoso

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  1. [...] Pioneer s Kuro Killing: A Tipping Point in the Plasma Era – Newteevee.comThe end of the Pioneer Kuro line of TVs represented a true tipping point in the TV industry, one preceded by long-gestating momentum from opposing forces. The recession and LCDs tipped over plasmas for good, and the slope downward will be quite steep [...]

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  2. Well I’m glad I got my Kuro when I did, it is truly the best TV on the market today and will likely remain untouched for several years. LCD just can’t touch this set!

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  3. Bad news! Plasma is much better than LCD. My Pansonic Plasma rocks. Say it ain’t so Joe….

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  4. Only mis informed buyers think LCD tech has eclipsed Plasma tech. Plasma is still Much much better in Response time for Sports, Gaming, Fast action movies etc. Its so fast they cant even measure the response time.
    Its half life is about 12 years+ watching it 8 hours a day. That just means it will be half as bright. But who watches them at full brightness? No one. So in 12 years you just up the brightness.

    I sold my old 32 in Panisonic Plasma and bought a 52 in LCD Sony XBR5 last year. When watching Sports I wish i had my plasma back. Plasma was also better with the Blacks. For the informed Plsama still is best if you ask me.

    For those who think you will keep a TV for 50 years after you buy it then maybe LCD is for you.
    I wish I had bought a Bigger Plasma instead of the Sony LCD.
    Other then Burn in LCD has no edge on Plasma. And the Newer Plasmas have features to minimize it.

    As far as smaller TV’s i see the LCD being the only choice as Plasma rarely are found anymore smaller then 42in.
    From someone who has owned top shelf LCD and Plasma TV’s I would Buy Plasma if I had it to do over again.

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  5. The only reason this all is happening is because no one is buying products. Most Americans already have purchased their electronics and until they break, it is pointless for them to make another purchase. It’s not a sale boom like when the LCDs and Plasma’s came out in 2004 and 2005 and these were the biggest changes to TV so people have what they need. Again, the production is useless because NO ONE IS BUYING ANYTHING!!!

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  6. LOL! Plasma dying out? Does the author own stock in the companies that mine LCD resources? :-) I’m sorry, but this article is just pretty silly.

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  7. I love my 42 inch Vizio Plazma. I love it. I’m never getting rid of it. Well……let me take that back….there are quite a few good looking models out there!!

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  8. what a shame, Plasma is and will always be better than LCD. LCDs are lower quality and thus cheaper to make and cheaper to buy….

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  9. That’s sad to hear because my Panasonic 50″ plasma rocks. The colors to me are more vibrant than an LCD and the plasma was a better price. I hope that plasma can make a come back because I would definitly buy a plasma again. The risk of the burn in is the only problem but just don’t leave the TV on pause for too long and problem solved.

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  10. Plasma’s going away is like 4×4 for vehicles. Why would any manufacturer get rid of such a superior technology that best represents sports, gaming and movie viewers? Bottom line, it’s just about pricing and demand. Spend some money to get the money. The lower prices on Plasma go, the more interested consumers are willing to upgrade to the best High Def TV available!!!!!!!!! Folks, that is why it is a little more expensive!

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  11. Wow – Sad really. I still prefer my Vizio Plasma to LCD’s. Price to Performance ratio is unmatched

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  12. I think that liquid crystal vs plasma was similar to the blu-ray vs hi-def competition, it just took longer. Both the LCD and plasma are amazing, but it does appear that LCD may win, but it won’t be that big of a deal, they are both high definition with almost the same dimensions–but cable/satellite and movies should definitely equalize their dimensions with the common tv style!!

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  13. LCD are cr*p and can’t match the natural look of Plasma. Vizio is a poor-man’s LCD.

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  14. I have to agree with Mike up there; this article seems a little like an exaggeration, I mean really. It’s articles like these that discredit the whole news/information arena…

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  15. WONT MISS WHAT I NEVER HAD~ LOL

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  16. If people only knew how much better a plasma was to an LCD they would be so much better off. 120 hertz LCD is slow compared to a 480 sub field drive in plasmas. That’s just one of many things people don’t know. Like Panasonic, 100,000 hour half life, to most LCDs 60,000 hour half life. I guess blur and longevity aren’t what people care about these days. Its funny to me that people say LCDs don’t burn in. I guess they never seen it. At least plasmas can correct the burn in now. Well what can you do I guess.

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  17. LCDs are only selling more than Plasmas because plasma televisions are rarely instock so people will settle for LCDS instead. I will take a plasma tv over lcd any day when referring to picture quality.

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  18. I’ve had my sony 32″ plazma… great picture4sure

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  19. im lovin hdtv

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  20. Really? Plasma dying? Have you owned an LCD TV? I will agree that LCD is better when it comes to a computer screen but TV? Come on, you have to do better than that! Plasmas still eclipse LCDs, as long as Panasonic keeps on producing them people will keep on buying them. There are plenty of enthusiasts that CAN see the difference between a plasma and an LCD and they will buy plasma.

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  21. one day when i have more money, i aspire to such a wonderful TV.

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  22. [...] Kuro Killing: A Tipping Point in the Plasma Era Pioneers Kuro Killing: A Tipping Point in the Plasma Era [...]

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  23. Agreed with other comments. I’m about to buy hundreds of plasmas for hotels because service life is 100,000 hours versus 60,000 for LCD. AND I’m getting them cheaper than LCD. I only wish the current predominant plasma sets were better at energy efficiency. The NEO PDP sets need to come out and fast, not for picture quality or “thinness” but energy efficiency. Not to mention LCD sets are generally lower build quality across the board. AND with Pioneer leaving the game it’s like Samsung discontinuing its LED 240Hz sets. SO the highest end is going away. So what. Panasonic will absorb the tech and bring it to their sets. High-end sets only matter if their tech is a precursor to the mainstream. And Pioneer is an itty bitty tech company nowehere near the size of any mainstream sets. If Cnet didn’t review their sets nobody would care. This is the result of a down market ejecting a niche player.

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  24. i started with a plasma. then switched to a 120mhz LCD cause that was the new hype. it was great for blu rays but still didnt compare to plasma for sports. needless to say i went back to a 50″ plasma. LCD doesnt compare to plasma. with the newer plasmas the burn in is not a problem anymore.

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  25. I like my Sony.

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  26. plasma TV’s has burn in and burn out, it sucks

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  27. Good Bye Plasmas!

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  28. Who cares if they die out or don’t die out. It’s amazing that people spend enough time in front of there TV that that they notice the difference between LCD and Plasma. “OMG it makes my video games and sports so much better.” Try getting outside or maybe spending that $1000 bucks on season tickets and actually going to games…..LIVE! It doesn’t get any better than that.

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  29. Hmmm I have a plasma which cost me 6K when I first bought, and I ve been well happy with it.
    LCD have much better features
    fast ms fast contrast and they don’t reflect sun light but! Plasma on the other hands give a much longer time of use while LCDs crystal break

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  30. I love my 47 inch LG LCD 1080P!!!! I find no difference between plasma and lcd. Plus i’ve seen people with plasmas and they complain about the burn in.

    GO LCD!!!

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  31. man that sucks. i work for bestbuy and at my store theres a really good balance between plasma and lcd.
    wow no more elites!! well alleast we still have samsung.

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  32. [...] Posted on February 23, 2009. Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: dead, gpnc, hdtv, lcd, panasonic, pdp, pioneer, plasma, technology, television | goodbye plasma? [...]

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  33. Look, I couldn’t care less about the difference between LCD and Plasma. Personally, I won’t buy one of these expensive televisions until they last on average at least ten years. I cannot believe people are idiotic enough to spend money on these things when they last only a handful of years. Televisions used to last 10 or more years (sometimes over 20). These companies know people are stupid enought to pay the money, so why bother to manufacture reliable products, right?

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  34. I believe one of the reason plasma’s is dieing out is because when you play ps2,3 or x-box they used to leave a burn image on the screen.

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  35. No one wants plasma televisions anymore. It would be kind of like purchasing a VCR nowadays-doable, but very rare and only for people who need a VCR to run their tapes.
    And like some other people have said, no one’s buying televisions right now either. There’s no point, especially when most tv’s look the same, act the same, and still won’t give you HD channels without subscribing to some lame cable company (yes I’m glaring at you, comcast)

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  36. Tyrone Biggums Monday, February 23, 2009

    And LCDs will soon be extinct, due to the superior OLED technology.

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  37. who is this guy and what authority does he have? he’s speculating, just like those people who said $4 a gallon for oil was here to stay last summer. plasma no longer has burn in, it’s just as thin as lcd, and my panasonic 42″ was a great buy for $799. even if plasma goes in the tank, it won’t take away the great picture we plasma owners have. they’re not going into our houses to take the sets away, so who cares what happens from this point on?

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  38. enigmaticblogger90 Monday, February 23, 2009

    Bye plasma! You looked awesome without having to pay money for HD. (My friend has a plasma)

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  39. LCD is crap. Plasmas have much better definition, not to mention they are a bit cheaper. Hell, I still have a cathode-tube TV I use(although newer TVs are preferred). Now they’re trying to give plasma the boot already? This is just as bad as that Blu-Ray crap. Slow down, companies. I don’t want my plasma to be outdated yet(not that LCD is THAT much of a threat).

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  40. Do people not know that plasmas give you more depth to colors? The only reason one should buy an LCD is for video games, to brighten the dark areas. But with a calibration, plasmas out weigh LCDs. An investment in any plasma (especially a Pioneer!!) is worth it for the Blu-ray watcher. All Pioneer needed to do was advertise and educate the population about plasmas.

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  41. stephen, you’re wrong on the video game thing. my kids play mario kart on nintendo wii constantly, and there are certain images that are there through the whole 8 hours that they play. not only is there NO burn in, but there’s also a feature that will wipe it out even if it happens. i have a friend who works for best buy in their tv department, and he is constantly learning about everything new in tv’s. he steered me to plasma, and i’m happy with it for sure.

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  42. i suggest one be very careful with their statements as, like the writer of this article is obviuosly ignorant when it comes to technology. LCD can never match the quality of plasmas. Burn-in is an issue of the past… how can this writer be so ignorant?

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  43. OK I’m dating myself but this sounds like the old Beta vs. VHS thing. Superior quality lost out to price point. I have a 7 year old Panasonic 42″ Plasma TV and a 2 year old Samsung 40″ LCD and believe me, the picture on the plasma is infinitely better. Especially when the viewing angle is slightly off center. This is one of the big differences between the two, the fall off of picture quality on an LCD vs Plasma when viewed from angles that are not head on. But you rarely hear this mentioned.

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  44. Iv’e never owned a plasma befor but my Samsung LCD is amazing. The plasmas here at costco are actually cheaper then the LCD’s. Main reason…plasmas use TWICE as much electricty! During a time where everyones is concerned about paying their bills, thats a huge selling point. I am surprised nobody even mentioned that fact. I have never been happier then I am right now with my 46″ 120 hertz / 50,000:1 contrast ration Samsung LCD!

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  45. this is a stupid argument based on misinformation and speculation (a fancy word for a “guess”), and the writer clearly has no grasp on the facts. i’m going to read roger ebert’s blog. i can learn something there.

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  46. People calm down. It’s a television. LCD or Plasma…does it really matter? Either beat the tube tv’s that you all had 9 years ago.

    Shut up and enjoy whatever tv you have. I have a Sharp Aquos LCD and love it….I’m sure I’d love a plasma too.

    Get over yourselves.

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  47. I agree with Mike above. During this sliding economy, people aren’t buying any high ticket items. When it comes to a large LCD or Plasma, there’s not too big of a price gap between a quality LCD and a plasma, so I believe if they can’ afford a plasma, they probably can’t afford a comparable LCD either.
    My 50″ Sanyo Plasma totally blows away about any LCD I’ve ever seen as far as picture quality, response time, and contrast ratio…LCD’s can’t touch it. If Plasma takes a hit in this economy, I’m sure the LCD manufacturers wont be far behind.

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  48. No mention of OLED technology? This is the future people, in five years this debate will be akin to arguing about your favourite dinosaur… (I’m a HUGE fan of the metriocanthasaur!)

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  49. In 5 years there will be yet ANOTHER article claiming that the best is is what the best was. Looking forward to the Bi Tronics rendition of the hologram viewer…you guys ain’t seen NOTTA yet, hahahaaa

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  50. Bought a 32in Insignia plasma and I’m extremely happy. For 477 bucks, it blows away any LCD in its class. A super bargain. I saw people thumbing their noses at the plasmas in the big box store I was at; and I thought, “WHAT FOOLS.”

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  51. I own two VIZIO’s 42″ and 32″ LCD. Love them both. I’ve owned the 42″ for a bit over a year and the 32″ just a couple months. When I bought the 42″ last year comparable 42″ Vizio Plasmas were considerable higher in price, this year the Plasmas of all sizes are cheaper than the LCD’s of similar size. Plasma is dead! Also I live Colorado and Plasma doesn’t do well at high altitude, not so bad in Denver where I live at 5280 ft. but far worse at higher levels!

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  52. I think that Plasmas are a great deal better than LCD, even with the burn aspect. I like video games and sports, bolth are better displayed on Plasma screens, whic are much more responsive. LCD’s care better left for computors, but If you want to watch T.V., go with the Plasma, trust me.

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  53. are yo kidding me!?!??

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  54. are you kidding me

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  55. Just another neo-nazi plasma hater. Probably worked for Circuit City with the rest of the mis-informed and misguided who not unlike used car salesmen, sold whatever they had more of in inventory, and claimed it the best. WHo cares if Pioneer is out of the game. Yeah, they were nice sets, but a comparable host of others come in better on the pocketbook. My customers are given ALL the information and generally decide for themselves that plasma is superior, instead of being steered into a lackluster display, cause they don’t know any better. Ding Dong the Kuro’s dead! More market share for the REAL players

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  56. After u watch a T.V 4 awhile U get use 2 the picture. So what’s the big deal. Sure it’s a good product and cost a penny. But if u sit in front of a old T.V long enough U won’t even care just as long as the show u r watching is a good 1. But yes if u happen 2 see a plasma u will 4 surly say WOW what a better picture. They r good products. I’m sorry about the bad luck.

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  57. yo nik u gay
    just joking!!!!
    lol

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  58. it all pick up by june 12 2008 i think i got me a lcd tv

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  59. Very very sad time when the best TV manufacturer is calling it quits. Pioneer has had the top rated TVs for 15 years and they never bothered wasting time on inferior LCD technology. As for the comment about LCDs being better for computers than a plasma… that’s not even close to being true. I have a 42″ 1080p plasma for my main computer screen. It’s used at least 6 hours a day, every day. Absolutely outstanding graphics and zero burn in issues. All TVs have image retention, even LCDs. Change the channel and it goes away… what a concept. People never seemed concerned about their old CRT TVs burning in, yet this was a very common problem. Oh is that why computers had screen savers? People need to be informed of facts and not live of tech data from 15 years ago. Maybe this will help lead the way for Laser TVs to take off…

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  60. ive been wanting a new set,but neither plasma or lcd have as good of a picture as my 10 yr old standard 32 in rca. the pictures appear,fuzzy,distorted,almost out of focus.has anyone else noticed this?

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  61. I have both and the pricing difference really makes LCD the better deal. Both are 1080P and I can tell very little difference when hooked up to my 360 and ps3. I spent $3,200 on the plasma and $1,500 on the LCD… your choice.

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  62. Looks like all the Plasma owners are getting nervous! Admit you were stupid for buying one and move on. Because years after your plasma has stopped working, my LCD will still be on the job, providing an awesome picture. You see the plasma owners never tell you about the short lifetime of a plasma T.V.

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  63. I have a Sam.LCD 120hz 1080p 50,000 to 1 and it is the top of the line LCD. I dont like plasma’s I had a chance to pay one and i didn’t. It had nothing to do with money cause i spent just about 3000 on the TV. I noticed that the LCD is crisper in some areas. Im a big sports fan and with the 120hz on it kicks butt. Gaming is the same way as sports. I would buy a LCD again if i had the chance. I have a dark room and LCD is better in dark rooms then Plasma’s

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    1. Errrr, 120hz? Is that all?

      I’d have you know the plasmas are 600Hz, meaning 5 times faster and contrast ratio on the Pioneer is 1,000,000-2,000,000 to 1.

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  64. I luv plasma! Hate LCD…..

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  65. uhhh, yeah… barack’s been in office for 30 days… HE ruined the economy LOL

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  66. I think that LCD has come along way but I have allways thought Plasma has a better image. Go Panasonic!

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  67. This article is stupid- Pioneer is going to stop making ALL THEIR TV’s, that INCLUDES LCD’s. Hello?! This is irresponsible journalism, with total false claims. How can you say Plasma’s are dead because Pioneer isn’t making any more plasma’s OR LCD’s???

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  68. Plasma’s defiantly produce much more vibrant colors and provide a nice, sharp image. But once they need repairing it’s all down hill… I’ve had my 23″ Samsung LCD TV for about 3 years now, and it’s great! No overheating, and simple bulb replacement.

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  69. With Samsung’s introduction of an LED light source, DLP is the answer for me! I couldn’t be happier with my 62″ Sammy and have no concerns regarding bulb failure, as it doens’t have a bulb to fail!

    Unless you want or need to mount your set on a wall, or cram it against the wall, this DLP might be your best option. Mine is located in a corner of the room, so it’s projection is a complete non-issue.

    Scoff if you will, but to each his own!

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  70. What is this nonsense? Plasma puts LCD to shame.

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  71. Man, this reminds me of the Beta vs. VHS wars of the early 80s. I bought the Who’s “The Kids are Alright” on Beta cause I heard it had a better picture. Of course, try finding a Beta machine now. It’s all on DVD, or Blu-ray, or whatever the newest scam is to loot your wallet. From now on I’m sticking with vinyl.

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  72. screw them both lets go back to the big phone and listen to the radio get the transitor

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  73. Pioneer? They make TV’s? Well regardless…. my Samsung 50″ is AWESOME. I bought my uncle a 42″ lcd and almost was in shock over the drop in color and quality…. Plasma going away? Hardly, for anyone thats in there right mind. It was almost a waste to go and fill in this reply to help educate john q public… This article is FULL OF TROLL. Well played, Jose Fermoso.

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  74. Was this article a kid’s homework assignment? How’s mine:

    Ferrari discontinues the Enzo….END OF AUTOMOBILES?????

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  75. Obama SUCKS!!! Give us our money back!!!!

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  76. Plasma ??? LCD ? ?? Has anybody watched TV, lately ? I’m keeping my old CRT television until there is something worth watching on TV.

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  77. I have to agree that it reaslly doesn’t matter whether or not you have a LCD or Plasma. From my own personal experience I prefer LCD because if the Plasma TV is handled incorrectly the fuse and parts on the inside will easily break and the TV will be useless anyway. As for the intelligent one that made the statement about Barack Obama was very ignorant because he is trying to fix the economy that Bush messed up and Plasma or LCD has nothing to do with that issue. A person is gonna buy whichever TV that see fits his or her lifestyle.

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  78. I find it kind of funny that Pioneer is ending plasma TV production. Most people don’t know this but they just stopped producing Laserdisc players January 2009,really look it up! I just think Pioneer is downsizing and plasma TVs will be here for a long,long time.

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  79. It doesn’t surprise me too much, I mean look at Blue-Ray and HD: Blue Ray is better but is being outsold by HD. As said by Chris, the amount you pay for quality; more consumers can afford and can deal with having a LCD rather than a plasma. Plasmas may die out, but if they do, LCD tech. is going to steadily increase. Also keep in mind that if they do “die out” there will still be sellers; it will take quite a bit of years until no one AT ALL will produce them or “produce on demand”. As it said-manufactures will produce them…

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  80. Why do we allow obama and our politicians to continue to rape the American people?! Give us our money back!!!

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  81. Oh you poor misguided children. The only way to watch anything is on a projector. You measure your screen size in inches. How cute. I measure my screen in feet. Boo hoo plasma is dead. Really, who cares? Right now all I care about is putting food on the table and keeping the lights on.

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  82. I have an american made RCA console tv that still has a great picture and good stereo sound. This year it will be 21 years young.

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  83. I’m sorry to see plasma go. They are so much better than even the best LCD, especially when given a “dirty” non-digital cable feed. True HD deserves to be seen on a plasma. RIP Pioneer. I hope Panasonic can keep up the good fight. Sony, well, who cares. I’ll go for Hitachi.

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  84. WOW!
    How Sad! I’m sure glad I bought my 50″ Plasma before thye are obsolete! They are way better then LCD!

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  85. I personally have a 38″ LG LCD set that I got at a fantastic price (it’s an ’07 model and I bought it when the store was transitioning to ’08 models; normally $1199, I paid $575… New in box!!).

    Picture quality is great, to me, and I consider myself a semi-connoisseur of high-end electronics (I built my own PC’s, and was one of the first people in the world to have an AMD FX51 CPU and ATI Radeon 800XTPE video card).

    I did worry about the “burn in” issue with plasmas, as my friend had burn-in on 2 different sets: an ’05 Pioneer 54″ Plasma and an ’06 Sony 61″ Plasma. His nicest TV, actually, is his LG 56″ DLP in his basement (especially with a custom 2100watt Klipsch sound system). It has, by far, the crispest image and fastest response-time of any of the TV’s in his house. And he has a lot (and a lot of money), including the aforementioned two plasmas, the DLP, a 32″ LG LCD, a 26″ Sony LCD, a 42″ LCD, and lastly a 32″ LCD that he uses as a computer monitor. Oh, and a 1080p Projector for use when we want to truly feel “in the game”.

    Sure, LCD’s can’t do blacks as well as other televisions, they can suffer from pixel burn-out, and their viewing-angle is generally more restricted than other types of TV’s… But they are catching up, or have caught up, to plasmas in most of those areas. Blacks still aren’t “pure”, but that’s the nature of the device. Pixel burn-out happens very rarely. Manufacturers are devising ways to increase viewing angles so that people don’t have to sit right in front of the set to enjoy all the colors and vibrancy an LCD can deliver.

    In the end, though, it’s true that Plasma’s are more “lifelike” in their images. I recall standing in Best Buy watching a nature program that was playing on all of the TV’s (it was just the unobstructed view of the camera, which moved through jungles to a river to a snow-capped mountain; maybe Planet Earth?). Right in front of me were three sets: a 56″ DLP, a 54″ Plasma, and a 48″ LCD. There is NO DOUBT that the Plasma was THE MOST LIFELIKE in its ability to render these images, smoothly, and in amazing 1080p detail. The DLP looked great, but it felt like it was always trying to “catch up” with itself. The LCD looked fantastic, but like all LCD’s, the blacks couldn’t match the Plasma/DLP, and there was some “digital blurring” that disrupted the viewing experience.

    I will stick with my LCD, though, as for the past year and a half, it has stood by me without fail. Thousands upon thousands of hours of all kinds of television watching, video-game playing (mostly first-person shooters, car racing, and sports games), and DVD-viewing. LCD’s seem to take quite well to upscaled-DVD’s, as unlike Plasmas, they are able to function at resolutions other than their native one.

    That’s enough. I don’t know why I bother posting so much… Must be boredom.

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    1. this is for Nick, just wanted to ask him about why the AMD FX51 instead of an Intel chip? Sorry about responding so late but found most of the critiques about LCD vs Plasma interesting, expecially Nick’s from 2/23/09. Hope he can respond to my E-Mail.

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  86. If I had purchased a Plasma with a gip load of cashish instead of a Samsung A750 I would be screaming how much “better” plasma’s are too!! Ok for those few who are total freaks and believe the diff between high end LCD’s and Plasma’s has a huge gap – more power to ya’ll. As for me I will keep the extra cash and spend it on an extended warranty – then take the wife out to a very nice dinner a few more times than usual. LOL You people must really be couch potatos

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  87. This article is a joke.

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  88. Good, If you can tell the difference between the differences in the “black” areas in T.V.’s your a loser. I have a 46′ LCD and its PERFECT! I hooked up a blueray and it almost looks 3-D it looks so real. If you want to be idiots and spend up to $10,000 for a plasma so you can say the black level is better, you guys are the SUCKERS I trick everyday into making me a TON of money, oh BTW I work in the T.V. industry….

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  89. that’s such a sad fact…

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  90. Poor little plasma people…You bought a bad deal. Plasma is horrible anyways. The only thing plasma might be good for is sports….thats it. Next time do some reading before buying a TV. Just remember the sales people want you to buy plasma because they are more expensive, DUH! Talk to a REAL geek (not a best buy one), they will tell you the real deal.

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  91. My LSD makes all sorts of thing blurry but the colors are INCREDIBLE…

    oh wait, LCD? Nah, I’ll take my Panasonic 800u, the only tv on the market to have THX video certification.

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  92. Marketing statistics are interesting, but they tell you what , not why, something is happening. Although numbers may strongly suggest it, Likely most LCD sales figures are a bit inflated right now because of the changeover to digital. A higher percentage of people are moving to buy in order to upgrade their tuners. -Most consumers hate add on boxes, free or otherwise. Many are more concerned with buying something digital, rather than of highest quality. Were plasma prices more inline with other products that have paid off their R&D, they would be getting their share of the market. Doubtful many consumers care what kind of guts are in their TVs. Plasma? just another step up the racing ahead technology ladder. Next year, bigger , better, sharper, just like last year was better (and pricier at the cutting edge) than this. industry slipped up and failed to keep plasma pricing in the market. Ho-hum. perhaps they should ask the government for a bailout.

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  93. I wish they’d just come out with SED already. Of course the way the economy is, it probably wouldn’t be able to get a foothold.

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  94. btw the Panasonic is plasma and costs less than smaller Sony XBR but has much better CNET reviews and for a reason (it got the editors choice in 08 and costs 1/3 what the Kuro costs) The only reason you should buy LCD is if you want to use it as a computer screen too or if it is in a very sunny room with no curtains.

    I work during the weekdays and spend my weekend daytime hours outside so sunlight isnt an issue.

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  95. Baba Booey!!!!!!!!!

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  96. GO COLORADO! Too bad plasma screens don’t work in the mountains, but if you live there try looking out the window and seeing the beautiful view!

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  97. Dear Joe,
    Please proof read your posts before posting online. Your post seemed so interesting. However, your many grammatical errors are so unnerving. I do no doubt you wrote this with feverish techie passion, but please, read before you post.

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  98. jaja…i never had a plasma tv but i wuz going to buy at less 2 i better get fast……

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  99. i love my panasonic 42′ plasma. i wouldn’t trade it for anything.
    you can actually watch dark horror movies in the dark, sports are 10x better, the graphics are cleaner, there arent the live LCD “trails” on fast moving objects like tennis balls, and it plays more like a TV than a computer screen.
    the only reason to ever own a LCD is if your TV room gets alot of sunlight and you watch most of your TV during the day. Otherwise you are seriously compromising picture quality.

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  100. I agree, Plasma is better, but there are some realities many of the Common Joe Plasma lovers seem to miss, even the Industry seems to miss. Believe it or not, reports show that approx. 76% of US households have standard tube TVs; one reason the Feds wanted to roll back the Digital Conversion Program. And, approx. 75% have no VCR. Many need to stop assuming rural America buys gadgets like the rest of us.

    I recently read several article where the EU is planning on banning Plasmas & some LCDs, because they actually use more energy than the promised reductions. My cousin in Germany has confirmed this, along with Germany’s ban on Corn Syrup (yes, a totally different subject, but at least the Heinz Catsup he sends is made the old way; with sugar, not CornSyrup and there is a significant taste difference).

    Now with American Consumerism taking a hit, so go the sales; the downside of having an economy where 75% of our economy is based on buying things.

    I have a Sony LCD and like it, do agree with Plasma’s ability to avoid pixelation on fast scene, but can live with it, as I’m not married to TV and like to get out when I can.

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  101. Who gives a crap about plasma.I have a SAMSUNG LCD 1080P it’s picture is beautiful especially on blu ray . It doesnt leave burn in marks either.

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  102. A sad day that the production of the best flat panel TV ever made is coming to a end. Any video-phile should buy these TV’s up while you can, because there wont be another that can touch this until the OLED finally comes to market.

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  103. Colorado is over-rated! Nice state to visit, but wouldn’t want to live there, unless I’m a crackhead!

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  104. Purchased a 50″” KURO this summer. This TV is amazing! My wife works in the CE business and everyone regards it as the best TV without question. LCD’s are big step down from a TV like a KURO. I guess it will be easier to buy an LCD now since the KURO’s out of the picture as you won’t remember what your were missing… ignorance is bliss.

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  105. Maybe if some of you tech geeks hadn’t blown $4K on a TV, you could have avoided foreclosure and avoided this mess we’re in. Stop spending half your paycheck on luxury items that lose more than half their value after the first year, and start educating yourself about investing.

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  106. All the bozos that say that LCD have a longer life do not mention the fact that behind most LCD panels are flourescent tubes that backlight the image and fade with time… and they aren’t replaceable unless you want to spend 80% of the cost of the set to do so, if you could at all. Also, have these knuckleheads ever bothered reading their manuals? I guarantee that somewhere in the LCD TV manual the manufacturer discusses the potential for burn-in, that’s right… burn-in on an LCD TV.

    Your average LCD TV performs no where near the level of a Pioneer Kuro panel. They are simply the best. Like comparing a GM Malibu to a top of the line BMW.

    But, just like Beta vs. VHS, McIntosh vs. Windows, CD vs. SA-CD, DVD vs. Blu-ray, it just proves…10 million flies can’t be wrong… after all, flies love SH*T.

    We’ll miss you, Kuro.

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  107. As a Pioneer Elite dealer, this is a depressing bit of news. The 60″ Elite Kuro is the centerpiece of my showroom at my TV store, and now I have to figure out if I want to drop Pioneer altogether. They do make some nice audio and video equipment, but their TV’s are amazing! Panasonics and Samsungs are also nice, but they don’t match Pioneer’s picture quality, styling and quality control. And yes, Plasmas do have a superior picture to LCD.

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  108. So many Plasma elitists here in complete amazement that their burn-in high priced piece of shit is going to die out. Tell me, how much have you been spending on your electric bill to get those ‘vibrant’ colors? The way these plasma elitists talk with their nose high, it’s as if they’re comparing a Ferrari to a Honda.

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  109. i love plasma..!!

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  110. I bet yah, LCD TV is awsome and good for your vision too. Plasma eats a lot of electricity compare to LCD. LCD is also affordable while plasma tv is not. LCD is the best and it can still compete with plasma.

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  111. DLP is the best. You have to look in the picture to if it is really all that. Every LCD and plasma I watch and sports is on all I can see is pixel blocks. I glad plasma is going away should of never been there in the first place. All they are is “bragging rights” for the rich man, so you can say its Plasma well plasma sucks and will always sucks. I sold things for a living so I had much time to actually look at the picture not the price tag!!!

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  112. While this is bad news for the plasma industry, it opens the door for LCD’s. NEC had arguably the BEST plasma products in the marketplace. I purchased an NEC Plasma years ago and it is still the best I’ve seen. My next product will be an NEC LCD for sure. DO NOT look at consumer grade panel LCD’s as you WILL regret it. Make sure you look at an NEC. You may pay about 10% more, but you will never have any worries.

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  113. I own a 50″ plasma and a 32″ lcd. I will tell you that the plasma picture is much better than the lcd. The 50 is a panasonic and the 32 is a vizio of which has a really good picture but still can’t compare with the plasma.

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  114. I still enjoy my old B/W TV which was made with pride in USA 50 years ago.
    Except for the few tubes that were replaced in 1971, and ’75 everything rocks.
    However it doesn’t have stereo sound…

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  115. My nephew, who used to repair computers on the side to pay his way through college, told me not to buy a plasma TV. He told me of all the plasma TV’s he’s had to repair because they burn out so quickly. The problem was that they overheated very easily. They functioned in many ways like a computer, but unlike a computer, they did not have a fan to cool them down. I don’t know if that problem was ever fixed, but I passed that word on to all my friends as well. Who wants to spend that kind of money on a plasma only to have it go bad on you and require costly repairs. Besides, I watch most of my TV shows online at this point. TV’s, satellite and cable companies are on their way to being obsolete in the next 10 years.

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  116. JOE MOFOIN MAMI Monday, February 23, 2009

    I have the newst plutonium 800 inch ‘ TV It is better than plasma and lcd its the win win win win of all winns It has the digital transitions on the interwebs.I am eliteing yuns.

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  117. man o man o man.. the war of the tv’s… what i think is that(or what matters most) any flat screen t.v that you can see movies or shows or w.e the f#c u wanna watch should judt display tv’s.. idk if you understood or not but what all im trying to say is that to me, quality does not matter if your trying to keep a freindly budget.. you should just be able to watch tv… does the quality really matter that BAD!! c’mon! its not the end of the world for crying out loud.. everything gets cheaper with time.. iPods are cheap.. 1gb shuffle use to cost what the price for the 2gb model does now.. so a good quality tv will be cheap but for now.. just get one for the new era thats to come…LOL unless your rich, by sony’s awesomeness pro litlle a$$ expensive tv.. more than $1000 for 19″ but thats if your rich.. hahaha lol
    get something thats at 500$ and its like a 32″ or something like that.. thats what i got…

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  118. This article is stupid Monday, February 23, 2009

    This article doesn’t make much sense. It is basically saying that because Pioneer and a few other big plasma manufacturers are stopping plasma production that plasma is dead. Like the article brought up, it is because of the economy, and so no shit people aren’t buying plasmas right now. Wait until the economy bounces back and plasmas will be back in full force.

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  119. LCD – Good for watching paint dry

    My 50 inch Panasonic plasma – good for watching Paul Pierce and the Celtics whip the Lakers in the Finals……again.

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  120. Your tube tv probably still sounds better than most of the tvs today, even though it isn’t stereo. People today don’t know what good sound is.

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  121. I think everything is better in LCD.. there is no reaction time slowing down when you watch movies, sports(as if I give a rats ass bout sports) or games. plasmas seem also to give off more heat and burn up faster than LCDs..and for anyone that cares(which Im sure some dont) I own a Vizio and have no complaints whatsoever. and as an afterthought, anyone that wants to bitch about this “phasing out” of plasmas, blame the government for turning our economy into a pile of shit…

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  122. good kill the plasma tv!! it sucks! kill it off!! when Sharp came out with a 103″ LCD tv that killed the plasma right there plus I’d rather have a LCD tv that lasts longer than plasma =P

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  123. Plasma sucks! LCD Rocks!!!

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  124. theREALevildoer Monday, February 23, 2009

    This debate is stupid. All TV programming has become a non-stop extravaganza of marketing, propaganda and meaningless pop culture. Does it really matter if your brain is being washed with LCD or plasma? No wonder the bankers steal trillions from us and we act like nothing is wrong. Baaaaaaaaaah

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  125. I love my Pioneer plasma. I looked at LCD and couldn’t find one that even came close to the Pioneer.

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  126. “Why would any manufacturer get rid of such a superior technology that best represents sports, gaming and movie viewers? Bottom line, it’s just about pricing and demand.”

    Exactly. I still have the RCA F38310 in my living room. For those that don’t know, it is the largest widescreen CRT TV ever made at 38″, along with the Lowe, and still arguably has one of the best pictures of any TV out. Had it since 2002. It will be a sad day when it finally dies. I’ve viewed many plasmas, Lcd’s, and my own DLP, and none of them hold a candle to the 38″ RCA. CRT technology died out because the hugh profits were not there once the public was fooled into buying LCD and Plasma’s. Granted the RCA is hugh and weighs 225 lbs. But for those only concerned with picture quality, CRT is still tops.

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  127. Well i see we have a lot of Plasma fans commenting here. I wouldn’t go as far as to call anyone Ignorant, but get real, there are many great TV’s that are not plasma. I’m sorry but just because YOU bought a plasma does not mean they are the absolute best TV with no doubts. I own a plasma, a LCD, and 3 CRT’s and my only complaint for any of them is the obvious size and weight of the CRT’s. The LCD TV’s generally cost more, that makes a plasma the choice for many people. In the past plasma’s could produce much deeper black levels than LCD’s, but today’s LCD’s have fixed that problem. MY LCD is a Samsung and i’ve never seen a TV with a better picture. Now that’s not saying i haven’t seen others (including plasma’s) with a picture just as good, many are just as good, but not better. It’s been said before that the “Burn-in” issue of older plasma’s has been fixed, that being said, the issue that gamers may want to watch out for is lag. Some TV’s will have to convert the resolution of a video game to match the standard resolution of the TV, some TV’s have to “Game Mode” to try to speed up this conversion. The worst TV’s for lag time is……… actually DLP. The main thing to remember is that all technologies improve over time, (for example old Plasma’s had “Burn-In” issues and old LCD’s couldn’t produce black colors well, both issues are fixed) so for someone to say “LCD can NEVER match the quality of plasmas.” is ignorant. If you like plasma, tell why you like it, if you like LCD, tell why you like it, there’s no need to say why the one you didn’t buy sucks so bad, if this was true we wouldn’t have so many options, there would just be one (like the old CRT days).

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  128. For the money, LG made (makes) the best plasma on the market. Go to Best Buy and pick out the best picture in the array of sets on display without looking at the brand plasma or LCD). Every time, you will pick a Sony or an LG. I have had an LG since 2005 and I have never regretted the purchase!!

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  129. QUESTION FOR PLASMA OWNERS:

    Is the glare ever a problem? Im considering a Panasonic plasma, but I know that an LCD would be less affected by natural light.

    Can any of you plasma owners see reflections from the windows, fan lights, etc?

    Thanks for the input.

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  130. Those of you who don’t know the difference between Plasma and LCD will find out when Mr. Osama Obama Taxes you on the 3X power consumption you are using by owning a Plasma…. I sell LCD Glass and this is the reason Pioneer and others will stop producing Plasma…. The Gov is going to penalize them for producting these non-green products…. Plus, they are a disposal problem…..

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  131. I purchased two LCD’s last year a 46 inch for the den and a 52 inch for the family room. The power useage is much less than the plasma.

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  132. I own 4 plasmas 42″ – 58″. I own 1 LCD 14″ . The vastly superior quality of Plasma to LCD doesn’t seem to cross the author’s mind, only as a passing thought. I agree with some other commentors that this guy is working for the LCD crowd or LCD raw materials bunch. Pioneer was a puny player in the Plasma TV market. Panasonic dominates the field and also makes a pretty nice LCD. I also like Sony’s LCDs, but the Plasma vastly outperforms. What the author failed to concede is that Plasma is also the primary platform in Casinos, racetracks, broadcasting, etc. LCD cannot match the resolution, contrast, or reaction time of Plasma technology. The author needs to do a little more research and maybe not buy so much Sony stock.

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  133. You all are a sad bunch..
    we just bought the new 52″ Sony XBR6 its refresh is adequate, and picture quality is far more superior to my sons Samsung plasma. Ya’ll just have a problem because you forked out too much money for a TV and now its out of date, i will admit that 6 months ago plasmas were way better, but now the new sony line, the XBR’s are just putting the plasmas to shame. and guess what, no burn in :)

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  134. this is what happens when you go shopping with your wife. i have been selling tvs and systems for a very long time, and if the male is purchasing by himself- i can close the deal on the first walking for a pionner. but when he comes with his wife- that’s when “can i have your card? we’ll be back during the weekend” happends .
    and to rob– we are comparing a ferrari to a honda. LCD’s have been playing catch up since day one (fact) if you look closely- every manufacturer that sold both LCD and plasma… plasmas were their flagships. all of them (fact), and those that didn’t touch LCD were the ‘exotics’ of the display industry ( fujitsu, pioneer, Sony XBR plasma, vidikron ) (fact)
    LCD is the poor man’s system display. … i just wanna cry… i didn’t even get to buy mine (and i was planning on the next model set..) ::sighs::

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  135. LCD’s SUCK plasma is the only way to wtf?

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  136. if you didn’t own a pioneer- you wouldn’t understand.
    comparing XBR’s and samsungs to pioneer is like comparing a marine to superman. they aren’t in the same league- period.
    the best sony is inferior to 2006 pioneer pdp-5070hd..
    believe that.

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  137. sorry boys- a ridiculous article! anybody will tell u that plasmas give out way better carity- and deep rich colors than LCDs! experts will tell you that! panasonic makes the best plasmas , after they figured out how to extend the life expectency from 40,000 hours to 100,000 hours every other company followed in panasonics footprints. SORRY BUT PLASMAS ARE NOT GOING NO WHERE! THE BEST PICTURE YOU GET GET PEOPLE—-HANDS DOWN! -iand i made a HUGE MISTAKE on buying a lcd. WHAT A REGRET!

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  138. Charles Loveland Monday, February 23, 2009

    Considering that I just got off a conference call where I was told about the new features and models from Panasonic, I find it extremely ludicrous the statements made by the auther of this article without accurate information to back it up. He did not elaborate that Matsushita which owns Panasonic and another 660 companies worldwide changed their name last October to Panasonic because it was the most prominent worldwide. So the reporting of the financial loss last year for the whole company not the Panasonic division. The new models are 1 inch thick, 600 hz, with more brightness and less power consumption by at least 30% than last years models. The price, longevity, durability, contrast level quality, true blacks, besides the resounding lead in motion integrity surpass any LCD on the market. The new reviews coming out such as the shootout in Home Theater support this completely. Panasonci is doubling their production by October of this year compared to the beginning of the year before on new plants on landfills in Japan. The writer of this article needs a tour of PHL and THX. If you want to know those mean just go to your nearest Best Buy and talk with them. The Panasonice reps will be in the stores next month on weekends. Feel free to ask us anything.

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  139. Can we atleast all agree that the demise of Plasma is George Bushs fault?

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  140. All of you plasma fanboys should just shut up. Plasma is a dying breed, much like Beta. Yes, beta was a superior product to VHS, but VHS was cheaper to make and the equipment to view VHS was cheaper to make and therefore affordable to average people. The difference between plasma and lcd is only noticeable to techies. To average people, a 52 inch lcd is fine and costs about half of what the plasma version costs.

    Good riddance plasma.

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  141. I sell the Cell my friend and if you think Panasonic will be selling their Plasma in 5 years you should hit that Bong one more time…..It will be Obama mandated….It is already being pushed in Cali, Plus, Panasonic doesn’t make their LCD Tv(oh you didn’t know that did you)…Just as Sony uses Samsung glass, Samsung uses AUO, Visio uses CMO and AUO, Sharp uses Sharp, LG uses LG and AUO, Sceptre uses AUO….If you want to shound smart stick to your business not mine….

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  142. It had to happen sometime. Its a huge waist of money because they die out then buy a new one. I think a person should buy one that they know will last for awhile.

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  143. Hmmmmm, I have a 42 inch LCD, it beats the crap out of my old 27 inch. I would like to try a plasma on my next purchase.
    How politics about Bush and Obama got into posts about TV’s is kinda silly but since someone started it , I will add my own cooment on Bush

    Do you know what I like best about Bush?
    His absence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  144. The author’s interpritation of the situation is incorrect.
    The main reason Pioneer is getting out of the market is not Plasma vs LCD competion, but rather Pioneer vs Panasonic competion. Pioneer made a stratigic blunder: they committed to the absolute perfection despite the costs. Panasonic on the other hand made a smart strategic move, sacrificing a little of marginal quality at a significant production cost saving, allowing them to deliver nearly identical product at a steep discount, effectively pricing Pioneer out of the market. That’s really why Pioneer is shutting down – they fell victim to Panasonic’s shrewd thinking. As a marketing director, it was all but obvous to me when I went shopping for the new TV last year. Pioneer was out of touch with the market on this, even if there was no Panasonic plasma’s.

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  145. Unfortunately the general public is highly un-educated about electronics. The poor kids in the electronic stores know only what the “reps.” tell them. The product with the most hype has to be the best. Plasma is by far a better technology. But once again the uneducated public will kill the better of the two because they don’t know.
    All those poor people who bought Bose and Monster Cable got so ripped off they would sue if they knew…

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  146. Hmm. I have a Samsung 58″ 1080p Plasma. It has 100,000 life hours and an energy saving setting. However, high energy use isn’t an issue if you have your set callibrated properly. If you watch sports it’s a no brainer. Hockey, Football, Baseball, and Nascar all look amazing. At 100k life hours it rivals the life of my Sony 720p/1080i tube hdtv. If you watch 12 hours of tv per day, it should last 25 years. If you decided to keep your tv on and watch it 24 hours per day, it should last 12.5 years. This tv is awesome. I’m not here to bash LCDs but I’m not a fan. I think Kuros are perhaps done due to the brilliant picture you can get in Sammys and Pannys for a grand or two cheaper.

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  147. Blueoyster57
    “LCD is better in dark rooms then Plasma’s”

    LOL! An LCD will blind you in a dark room. Silly rabbit. you have a one track mind. Plasmas are not going anywhere. Have you seen the new line of Panasonics coming spring 2009. Garanteed to be better than any LCD in everyway Possible.

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  148. PLASMA SUX
    LCD SUX
    PLASMA SUX
    LCD SUX
    Bunch of babies! Truth is if you find the right one either technology is great.

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  149. Hey, people you are talking about TV’s. Did you know that my Television was made in 1943 and still working, the pictures are so crisps and it sounds like a thousand volts of thunder. The channel is a rotary type knob and the screen is so cool, I won’t replace it for a plasma or LCD. Because my old TV was made by General Electric and I can convert my TV to plasma if I want. The only problem of my TV is that its picture is upside down, and the indoor antenna will rock you off its current flows. One time my wife and I had a fight regarding my awesome TV because of the smoke coming from the inside of my TV, she thought I was smoking a cigar. But I said I wasn’t but instead she hit me on my head with my 1943 TV, I was hospitalized for a week. Now my TV is gone and my memory also is gone. Now I divorced my wife because of the medical bill that loomed to $ 12,000 for what she has done to me, not because of my damn 1943 TV. Next year I will buy a new wall TV and a life insurance.

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  150. I have been selling Panasonic for a while, in Best Buy, Sears ,and in till lately, Circuit City’s. If you are thinking of buying a TV, hold on for a couple of months Just wait for whats coming out this year! You will be amazed! Knowing this product inside and out, as I do. If you were my friend or family, I would definitely steer you away from all other Plasmas and LCD,TVs. Honestly,from my heart,let me advise you, invest in the best . Don’T waste your money on what the salesman is getting a spiff from. A TV is an investment, get the most for your money.If you watched TV for 12 hours a day, a Panasonic plasma will last 40 years. Panasonic is the only TV that has a SD card reader hidden in the front in order to watch your digital photos,when your not watching TV, your plasma becomes a giant digital photo frame.You can Leave your favorite picture up, or do a slide show You will not experience burn in on your Panasonic. It5s a different breed than other plasmas, check them out! I think you will be pleased!

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  151. People the Tree huggers (Pelosi and Obama and the rest of their gang) will kill your so ever loved Plasma…. Power Consumption and plasma Gas is a big issue with this administration….. Oh ya, you can stop blaming Bush (I don’t like him either) and relized our new President is in power…

    Vote them all out and start over… This way you can enjoy your Plasma’s for a couple more years…

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  152. I have three large TV’s in my House.. one Vizio 42 inch plasma, one Vizio 32 in LCD and one 60 inch Pioneer Plasma. I have to say that Vizio is a great TV for the money. As for Pioneer… I LOVE my 60 inch Plasma. I’m glad I have one. I do not like the slower refresh rates of the LCD’s… they are terrible for fast movies or sports.

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  153. I have a 50″ Panasonic plasma (was almost $5000 when new), and within a year I had notice the colors already beginning to degrade. Whites are becoming gray-ish borwn and all colors are not as vibrant. Now I’m not sure if this is normal, just a fluke, or old technology, but I am VERY disappointed that withing a year my TV was already showing it’s age. I have 2 32″ LCDs of about the same age (about 6 months newer but now over 2 years old) and their pictures are as clear as the day I hooked them up.

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  154. Check the Consumer Reports ratings. LCDs are closing in quality-wise and comparable plasmas use 3X the electricity. That alone makes them worthy of death.

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  155. Do not listen to Mr. Best Buy buy LCD….The only new technology coming is OLED…. And it will be 5-7yrs before they can build a Gen7 fab to produce this Technology….

    Enjoy your TV!

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  156. Consumer Reports have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to electronics. They represent the uneducated population because they are uneducated.

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  157. who cares. I used to think Bush sucked and it couldn’t get any worse. Well, I was stupid. Obama is taking more of my money and spending it where he thinks it should go. I guess that’s what the people want. Too bad there’s so many Americans who don’t want to work for a living any more and just expect handouts from the government. If you’re lazy and a worthless piece of s### Obama is your man! Go Obama!!

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  158. only the rich buy Pioneer Brand televisions anyway, I have 3 different brands in my home, RCA a rear projection 52in (monster), a Samsung46in Plasma and our newest a Toshiba 32in LCD. All have given us no trouble thus far but our Plasma has the best picture of the three by far reaches. When it was purchased it was actually cheaper than the LCD as they all once were and im so glad it was. I will say that it does generate some heat but nothing the ceiling fan cant take care of. I really hope to see the prices come down on the larger screens and plasma continue to be seen on the shelves! LCD and projection will never be able to compete!!!

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  159. Plasma vs LCD is old news. The future is OLED. Makes plasma look like tube.

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  160. People did not want Obama they just wanted Bush out….Socialism is coming faster than Plasma’s death…

    Buy your guns before it is to late!

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  161. People who can’t see the difference in contrast and brightness between a plasma and an lcd need their head examined. Get back to me when an lcd is able to accomplish having a visible picture when you’re outside of the 9 square foot viewing box…or not feel like you’re watching a movie through a dirty window. Once again, completely inferior technology wins out. What’s next? DLP becoming a top seller?

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  162. To comment on an earlier posting, LG plasma tv’s are a piece of trash of an HDTV. I work in an electronics store, selling the latest and greatest, and I would NEVER sell an LG (plasma) tv to ANYONE!! They still have burn-in issues and their color representation is almost comedic. All colors on an LG plasma look extremely forced and cartoon-like. As far as their rating goes, they’re not even in the top 5. If you want an awesome plasma set and don’t want to pay the astronomical price for a Pioneer, look at Panasonic or a Samsung.

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  163. WOW, a no name person with a no name/ no credibility website states that lcds are better plasma, nd plasmas are dying. If anything Sony is dying. Well I took a huge loss selling my Sony 52 XBR to get a 50 pani. The Sony was horrible on formula 1. DTM, football, etc. Way too much ghosting and the colors weren’t there. After watching on my friends pani, I had to make the switch. Plasma’s are coming down in price and people jsut buy lcd’s over plasma because that is what walmart sells.My local best buy will all tell you to go with a plamsa

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  164. OLED will kill LCD as well, so this is all much ado about nothing. The technology of the future is already being shown in labs – laser displays and OLED displays that are paper-thin, flexible and have resolutions exponentially higher than what we’re watching today.
    Getting this technology cheap enough for the average consumer? well, by the time this recession is over, the new technology will be there, and affordable.

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  165. aahhh sht. dm plasma aitn goin no were, lcd not really good

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  166. SAMSUNG LCD’S ARE THE BEST TV’S EVER MADE!!!
    4ms response time
    120Hz
    50,000:1 contrast ratio
    only 1.9″ deep
    DLNA certified
    CCFL—Cold Cathode Fluorescent (More colors)
    Built-in digital tuner: (ATSC/Clear QAM)
    DNIe™ The Samsung Digital Natural
    Image engine. This exclusive Samsung
    technology dramatically improves the
    picture by enhancing the contrast, detail,
    white balance and reduces.
    PLASMA TV’S WORST NIGHTMARE HAS COME TRUE!! LCD SHALL TAKE OVER ALL!!

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  167. well I have a 42″ Panasonic plasma that’s 4 years old and has seen an incredible amount of game play and still looks perfect. However I did just purchase a new 46″ samsung 1080p lcd and it looks great. I will say that I do notice the difference with sports and action scenes between the two units. Plasma is still smoother and blows away my lcd when watching non-HD channels but my LCD looks incredible with blue-ray or a good HD channel. At the end of the day get what you like because your the one that has to watch it.

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  168. Is this author crazy? I’m getting ready to buy a plasma this weekend. We just moved into a new place. Plasma is not dying out – how ridiculous!!!

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  169. who cares about tv. Get off your asses and do something besides watching tv. Oh, I forgot you don’t have to do anything. I’m paying for your welfare check! Thanks Obama!! You got to love the dumbs###ts that voted for Socialism. First Socialism, then Communism! I guess that’s what the people want! Bend over and wipe my ass for me, please? Thanks Obama!

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  170. Does grammar mean NOTHING anymore???? Proofread your articles or don’t publish them….

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  171. The best TV you can get for your money is a Panasonic Plasma. I don’t see this Technology “dying” anytime soon especially with panasonic z1 model to be released Spring 2009, this Panny will be a huge seller, huge enough to keep Plasma’s in the game for years to come. Pioneers death was sure to come. You would be an idiot or a wealthy person to Purchase a Pioneer over a Panasonic When Panny’s are 1/3 the price and just about equal in quality. One company dying out does not doom this technology, I believe it will make it better!

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  172. at a local sports bar a A electronic company came in and put dpls, plasmas and lcds Most people couldnt tell the deference. in picture quality, It was funny to see people tell how much better there picture with plasma pick a lcd or even a few that picked dpls at 12 feet not very many could pick witch was witch so who cares if plasma dies it will be replaced, in a few year by something better,

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  173. I’ve got a Magnavox CRT from 1972. You think you got something great because its new and shiny? The Best test is the TIME TEST. but just to make me feel better i hope your $3,000 TV fails tomorrow! Hahahha!

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  174. Well considering that people will now be scaling back their spending (not buying giant unneeded TVs) Plasmas such as the 32 inch vizio should do just fine. It has a much better picture than any lcd could imagine at its price range. I bought mine for $550 6 months ago and the last I saw it at wal-mart was around $450. So I wouldn’t call it the end of plasma just yet.

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  175. Once again, it’ll be up to those of us who have any balls who will stand up for our rights! We all know that liberals are a bunch of pansi asses! And yousuckattes- You won’t have the freedom to smoke a bowl when you want because you’ll be among Communists. You’re the dipshit!!! Pull your head out!!

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  176. First of all, Pioneer announced over a year ago they weren’t plamsa tv’s anymore because there cost was too high and no profit. So obviously the author is a little slow and not very credible. and what is this website. Cnet voted that the panasonic 58 pani is the best overall tv out. If you like ghosting and and grey whites and not rich blacks., dead pixels the go with a lcd. I have a 3 year old 42 pani plasma and brand new 52 samsung lcd and the old pani looks 10 times better. what a mistake, dont listen to anybody that tells you to buy an lcd. you will regret it.

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  177. Those of you who say Plasma is far better than LCD are correct, but not for long. The problems with LCD is the deep black and the response time. They are putting technology into the LCD’s that will allow them to match the quality of the Plasma’s. And for the lack of burn on the picture I feel that these new LCD’s will be far superior to Plasma.

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  178. Plasma is the only way to go I have a plasma Panasonic 50″ in my den, Panasonic 42″ in my living room and a Sony 42″ lcd in my bedroom and all are 1080p. I bought the Sony and I wish that I would have purchased another 42″ Panasonic. The people that say lcd’s are the way to go are realy talking out of their behind, I could go on but I will leave it at that!!!!!!!!!!

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  179. Plasmas are quite a bit cheaper and look better the “ONLY” reason to buy and lcd is if you have a lot of windows opposite your tv, the lcd’s don’t reflect the light, if you have a darker room you’d be a fool not to buy plasma

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  180. I just debated endlessley on wich one to buy. It all came down to watching several models from different friends houses. This article HAS to be based on nothing but alarmist opinion. One that is OBVIOUSLY based on lcd bias. I ended up buying a THX certified 50″ Panasonic plasma. I love action movies and most of all football. I checked out several lcd models that had the 120hz refresh rate. And during fast action segments, THE BLUR WAS STILL THERE! That ladies and gentelmen, sold me. If they end plasma, I will continue to LOVE my plasma for as long as I own it and would’nt trade it for ANYTHING!! lcd CAN’T CARRY Plasma”s jock. PERIOD. As far as burn in, I just use my good olg 36″ sony vega trinitron for games. (remember those??) LOL

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  181. I hate literate people who use big words. :D Monday, February 23, 2009

    Like my song? :

    Obama SUCKS
    Obama SUCKS
    OBA Ba Ba Ba ma ma ma s-s-s-sucks

    Hey!! He said he promised to fix this and that
    but instead he ended up using sticks and bats
    to SMASH!!!!!
    The economy
    that was weak and flat
    we let him speak and slap our hands.
    Conviced
    he would save the world
    we let him in
    and now we……………….WEEP!!!!
    To the sound of his voice
    and the random vigorous acts he poures
    on our backs and our packs
    But not everyone gets to face the facts
    that have splashed on the patch that where once…… cleeeaaaaaaan~

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  182. at least everyone here agrees obama sucks a major man dick

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  183. What is an LCD anyway… is it a spanish cd?

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  184. lol okay so i know that we all watch ALOT of tv, but whats the big deal why by more material crap its just stupid and a waist of money i my opinion, but yeah cant really miss what you never had i like my old school tv =]

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  185. Too bad there isn’t anything worth watching on TV anyhow…I just like to flush my dollars down the toilet…you’d swear it was in 3-D.

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  186. Plasma is much better than LCD. I have a 720p Samsung Plasma, and we compared it to 1080p LCDs and the plasma beat it hands down. That comparison held for all the big 4 brands (Sony, Samsung, Panasonic and Sharp), Plasma is just sharper, more colorful and they are cheaper!! Shop with your eyes, and you will want a plasma. We have a good bit of sunlight in our room and it still looks outstanding. I hope that some companies will continue to make them.

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  187. this has been highjacked... Monday, February 23, 2009

    LCD is far better, performance wise, than a plasma ever will be. I dealt with plasma for a while and had junk in comparison to LCD. Yes, the picture is better for money snobs, but only after you buy $3,000 dollars worth of extra equipment to get that resolution difference. Not worth it, and if you do buy it you should check you Napolean complex at the door.

    For people who are building home HTPC’s and the like…LCD wins hands down. Really, LCD wins in every single category except for really high-resolutions and black-depth. However, this is not to mention the technology that is being developed on LCD’s. Plasma is getting left in the old, dry, field…and rightfully so. Plasma is like those people who still like records. Yes, they sound ok, but not great..CD’s came along for a reason. Some day we’ll all wish we had bought a plasma for it’s rare antique value. Like the first color TV or something. Regardless, plasma will be nostalgia in 5 years from now.

    LCD has better compatibility and capability. Good-night plasma. Thanks for getting us started, but I gladly leave you behind, along with analog, after the transition (if they actually do it this time).

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  188. The DVR killed the plasma tv. Don’t get me wrong plasmas are great but not with a DVR or dvd player. The burn in effect is bad. If you pause it for too long you have ruined the tv. I know there are people out there that say it doesn’t happen but it does. I work for a major satellite provider and i have seen it more than once.That is why lcds have out sold the plasma.They do not burn.

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  189. i dont know who you idiots are that keep saying that lcd’s are cheaper then plasmas but i work at circuit city (for now haha) and have for the past 2 years and since i started the price difference between plasmas and lcds was always huge….and plasmas were much cheaper…we did not carry pioneer but we do and always have carried panasonic and samsung and samsung plasmas are half decent when it comes to picture quality….however panasonics offer incredible picture quality for a very reasonable and affordable price and they destroy all lcds in picture quality realistic coloring motion technology….sooo i dont know where you guys are getting your information from for those of you saying lcds are cheaper and or better quality but you must be out of your minds or just have no idea what your talking about….buy a plasma!!!!

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  190. i agree with mightyducky2. tv’s are nice and all but i think being out at the event is better than HD, its REAL! i could care less if it this happened because i still got a standard def tv and dont plan on upgrading till it breaks. but… i do have a projector =)

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  191. I agree, a plasma picture is superior to the LCD, but to pay what they want for a plasma just so it can die in 10 years? C’mon, I want my buck to go farther than that!

    I can live with LCD quality (which isn’t that bad and you know it) and get more bang for my buck. If you want to throw $2500 down the toilet, go ahead!

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  192. Best Buy Employee Monday, February 23, 2009

    I see these televisions everyday and with the exception of the Samsung LCD’s 650,750, and 850 there are no better televisions than plasma screens. Black levels, response times, and video processing far pass any normal LCD. With Plasma screens being at a better price point for a LCD that comes only close to a plasma it is unlikely that plasma will die anytime soon. Just because pioneer is out, mostly due to the fact that the average customer doesn’t want to send $4000 on a TV, is no reason to think Panasonic’s rising sales will magically disappear.

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  193. AFTER ALL, WASN’T THE T.V. THAT GOT OBAMA ELECTED??? OR WAS IT THE MEDIA??? I’D SAY THE T.V.

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  194. People don’t want to take time time to research the difference, they just know LCD and that’s it. I bought a 52in Sony lcd , Circuit City had to ordered it, lucky they went out of business so I got a refund. While waiting for the Sony, I spent time and watched plasma and lcd. Plasma have much better color, lcd are just bright. I don’t want to watch a Blu-Ray soap opera

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  195. I bought a 42″ LCD several years ago at the urging of the salesman. Had it 2 days and took it back and got a 42″ Sony plasma. Last year they made them. Picture is still great and far superior to LCD.

    Liked plasma so much, bought a second plasma, a 1080p Samsung 50″, 2 years ago.

    There’s no comparison in picture quality when you’re watching fast action sporting events. Plasma is the best hands down.

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  196. The best television is the one that gets a lousy picture, has a small screen, and is shoved into the least-used corner of your home. Because that’s the television that allows people to take back ownership of their life from the clutches of the one-eyed monster.

    Death of energy-sucking, completely frivolous, time-wasting, mind-rotting plasma sets? Good. I can only hope that the rest of them go the same way.

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  197. wow, all the hub bub. got an idea, get the hell off the couch. and yes obama sucks, everyone i talk to, nobody voted for him, how is he in there?

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  198. Don’t sweat it, all you Plasma and LCD lovers. All your sets will be dead or in need of costly repairs within 5 to 10 years. ( circuit boards, dust, and high temps, just don’t go together well ) . Plasma may be tops in pics but what happens when all the companies go under? Who’s gonna service your tv ? I don’t like it either but dems the cold hard facts of life…

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  199. OBAMA SUCKS . OBAMA SUCKS. OBAMA SUCKS.

    Anybody that doesnt realize he is turning this country into a socialist tyranny who will leave a debt to our children which can never be re-paid is ABSOLUTELY IGNORANT and STUPID. These are the wellfare using, non-working, lazy mothfckrs that are ruining this country.

    HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK A “STIMULUS” bill which only wastes millions of dollars on useless is CRAP is going to help ANYTHING.

    WE NEED TAX CUTS TO PUT MONEY IN THE HANDS OF REAL AMERICANS WHO KEEP THIS COUNTRY AFLOAT.

    BY THE WAY, 39% OF AMERICANS PAY NO TAXES AT ALL AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT OBAMAS SOCIALIST CRAP!!

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  200. Another testament to marketing and price point trumping the better product and further proof how lemming like the average consumer is. Plasma produces a much better and more natural picture, is now less expensive then most comparative LCD’s and yet people are still snatching up LCD’s! Amazing!

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  201. By the way, PLASMAS ARE BETTER. Except for glare.

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  202. I don’t understand why you are talking down on Obama. When he just got into office about 1 month and 4 days ago. Do you really expect a change to happen that soon. Before you blame Obama how bout, you start by thanking your former president George W. Bush for getting us into this debt. Now Economist have already estimated that even with Obama’s Stimulus package, unemployment will not drop till next year…….to dumb it down for you, this means we wont see a drastic change in our economy until next year. So instead of hating on him how bout you try to give him a chance.

    P.S. If you pay attention to national news, you would know we aren’t the only country with economical problems.

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  203. Plasma is the best, panasonic my favorite even though ive never owned Pioneer. Did get to try out olivea lcd horible i mean really bad pictures, way less colors chitty! I also had LG LCD horrible compared to panasonic

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  204. Typical – blame it on bush. Watch some more of the liveral media. Yeah – they’re not biased at all.

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  205. Bummer, man! I bought a 50″ Samsung plasma last week, and I’m in love! After 2 weeks of intense internet research, this tv rated out VERY well, and I agree. I’ve seen many LCD’s, none would match the crispness of my Plasma, especially considering I picked it up at Best Buy for $890! They can’t take it back from me now! I got the extended warranty for $160, for 4 years of coverage, so if it does break down, I guess I’ll reluctantly have to get an LCD. Another example of the American public wanting cheap over quality and longevity, and the bit ch and complain that it doesn’t last very long!

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  206. WOWO lovin the obama digs (RIGHT INTO MY FN POCKET!!!!!!!!!!!)

    it’s all about the O

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  207. The reason why LCDs outsell plasmas is mainly because they dominate the 20-37 inch (smaller) TV market. Most HDTV sales fall in this market. For the smaller HDTVs, LCDs are cheaper to manufacture than plasmas.

    However, for 42 and 50 inch televisions, many plasmas are cheaper than their LCD counterparts. For example, compare top-rated plasma manufacturer Panasonic to top-rated LCD manufacturer Samsung, and you’ll find that the plasmas are about 10-20% less expensive. For these TVs, the plasma’s do look slightly better. If you browse the web (CNET, ZDNET, AVS forums), the critics also reach the same conclusion.

    Thus, in the end, ultra high-end Pioneer going out of business does not spell the end for plasma. Plasma will definitely stay, and Panasonic is still a profitable company and will continue to make plasmas.

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  208. Bush is to analog tvs as Obama is to Plasma. Bush sucks

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  209. By the way, 6 out of the 8 yrs bush was in charge the economy was ABSOLUTELY EXCELLENT. It was the DEMOCRATIC pressure to lend money to people who should not have qualified for home loans which ruined the banks and started this whole collapse. WAKE UP PEOPLE. STOP LISTENING TO EVERYHTING MSNBC spits out. They’re all liberals with AGENDAS. WAKE UP. DAMN!!

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  210. What does Obama and politics have to do with the debate between Plasma and LCD tv’s.? Smoke another bowl and click on the right website wasteproduct….

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  211. Michael Agha-Okoro Monday, February 23, 2009

    Don’t give up. Hope things would get better. The future is full of hope. Research further please.

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  212. hey Nigel, Canada is calling

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  213. Overall, plasma produces better picture (livelier colors). But LCD consumes a tad less electricity and doesnt lose out in sunlight.

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  214. A RECESSION LAST 18 MONTHS ON AVERAGE. WE would have been out of this by mid year, if it wasnt for Obamas fear tactics and now a “stimulus” bill from which we will never recover.

    Obama supporters really need to get an education. His own economists talk down his plans.

    IGNORANTS ARE RAMPANT in this country – APPARENT BY THE FACT THAT HALF THE NATION VOTED FOR OBAMA. But %40 DONT PAY TAXES, SO ITS UNDERSTANDABLE THOSE LAZYASSES WOULD WANT HIS HANDOUT POLICIES IMPLEMENTED.

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  215. Plasma and LCD are both overrated and short lasting products. They either burn out quickly or the speakers short. Give me a good old tube any time :) They may not have high definition super sound, but the old fashioned quality tv’s last a good deal longer and im not spending money every six months to have the dang thing repaired or replaced.

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  216. ONCE ALL YOU PEOPLE REALIZE THAT OBAMA’S “CHANGE” IS NOTHING MORE THAN A CUTE SLOGAN WHICH DOESNT ACTUALLY STAND FOR ANYTHING, WE WILL BE HEADING TOWARDS THE 2012 ELECTION WHERE A REPUBLICAN WILL BE VOTED PRESIDENT TO TRY AND REPAIR ALL THE CRAP OBAMA HAS F’D UP. GUARANTEED.

    LOOK AT THE HISTORY PEOPLE…THAT IS IF YOU KNOW HOW TO READ

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  217. O.K. this is kinda played out. Lets start on the Mac VS PC argument now.

    VHS VS Beta?

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  218. I agree entirely. However, an interjection is looming. HOW come that with all this and that and what not everyone has on their minds…Just wondering ..but.
    Did we all just decide that well; If I’m not gettin paid I ain’t doing ( )it. Monies pre-destined for latter use diminished. Everyone with something to say. Wonder if makin all this extra money…that was just created for the sake of spending, I mean really, (lol)
    Isn’t that capital just always gona be there? We can’t just “pull the brake at just the right time”.
    Would those facilities, as they are determined which are established for what, transfer the dough away from its account number to someone else’s? How could it be good to just add money to whats out there? Sure, so the persons who are actually feeling this economis crisis will have a piece of their pie back? We all die. Seriously, it’s done been done but still. They didn’t earn money did they? We just giving it to them cause we need them to remain usable? So we lose our homes, forced to seek alternative measures…no aid for that. hmmm
    The wealthy getting a tax increase. Unless you need to pay your gas bill….then let someone else get a bite.
    BLAH BLAH BLAH
    And after your work. Lot of us hafta drive many miles…thats time just driving. Wouldn’t it be super keen to live close to your job? If you could stay close to your job….and not have to worry about getting in to some sort of any kind of negative event to deter you from utter happiness. Time with the ones you love.
    And how come you can be at a redlight and the cars in front of you a good bit of the time wait sooo long to begin forward progress? The lead car is okey for whatever…but the cars after? Them same cars will be nose to tail on the straightaways and need 4 or 5 seconds to go. Cars just sit far back and when someone pulls into that lane behind them. Those cars a good bit of the time won’t even scooch up just a lil teeny bit nevermind give the space to completely enter lane. Could we change that too.
    Cars that ride out in the fast lane doing the limit? Isn’t that some sort of law or courtesy even to where…unless you rolling or in a line to stay right?? I mean really. Nice to see tickets written for THAT.
    And how come people that live in other countries follow or perceive figures other than our God? What’s up with that?
    How can you really go with other than the fact that something made us? We couldn’t be solely a mathematical probability. because. There couldn’t just be a single cell…from …humm…magic? For whatever reason it’s easier somehow disbelieve. Is that the lowroad? Okay imagine a two car garage built onto a house. Just the bare surfaces. floor..walls…roof and … say you come back a kajillion (really super long span of time, oh, any amount beyond 300billion or so)
    years later and. bum bum da bum
    Theres a jaguar in one spot and a caddilac in the other it dont work like that.
    Seems like tough times were on the horizon anyways…but who knows…really…
    I just hope for good.

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  219. the article stated that Panasonic sells their glass to JVC,
    JVC hasnt had a plasma in well over 3 years

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  220. Hey all you politicians and tv haters get the fuck off this page your ruining my reading!

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  221. I UNDERSTAND NOBODYS HAS AN EDUCATED RESPONSE TO MY ARGUMENT WHICH CAN ACTUALLY HOLD UP.

    ITS BECAUSE THERE ISNT ONE.

    OBAMA SUCKS. OBAMA SUCKS . OBAMA SUCKS.

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  222. OKAY…. HERE WE GO, I’M NOT BIAS ON THIS MATTER. JUST EXTREMELY EDUCATED. CORRECTION; LCD’S HAVE BURN-IN. CORRECTION; PLASMAS HAVE A LIFE SPAN CALCULATED TO LAST 100.000 HRS DO THE MATH. WILL LAST OVER 20 YEARS, BUT WAIT! THIS DOES NOT MEAN THE SET DOES NOT WORK. JUST MEANS IT LOST BRIGHTNESS. NOW, HERE IS WHERE YOU BIASED LCD HUGGERS ARE ALWAYS WRONG. LCDS DO NOT LAST LONGET THAT PLASMAS. THE BACK LIGHT WILL DIE AT ABOUT 60.000 HRS AND GUESS WHAT! UNLIKE THE PLASMA WHICH LOOSES SOME BRIGHTNESS AT ABOUT 100.000 HRS THE LCD WILL NOT WORK AT ALL WITHOUT THAT BACK LIGHT. UNDERSTAND? ARE YOU BIASED LCD HUGGERS ALSO AWARE OF THE DEAD PIXELS YOUR SETS HAVE? YOU MIGHT MISS 1 OR 2 BUT THERES MORE TO COME. LCD’S ARE GOOD FOR MONITORS AND MANY OF MY EDUCATED COSTUMERS DONT EVEN BELIEVE THAT ANYMORE. THE ONLY KNOWN PROBLEM WITH PLASMA’S IS ALTITUDE. THAT BURN-IN AND SHORT LIFE IS CRAP. PLASMAS ARE GOING ON 10TH GEN AND HAVE CORRECTED THOSE ISSUES WHILE LCD MANUFACTURES ARE STILL WORKING ON THEIR BLUR AND DARK LEVEL ISSUES. I HAVE BOTH AND THEY BOTH DO THEIR JOBS WELL. PLASMA, BEST TV. LCD BEST MONITORS.

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  223. sound’s like a crap of shit…

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  224. Here is the problem? You have all this cheap off-shore electronics where they used older processors and parts and then name it whatever you want. Then WalMart, Sam’s Club and Costco sign these lowriders up. The LCD PC market started the price reductions four years ago. Not much profit in the flat panel business. As an integrator you need to sell audio and services to service. I think Plasma has a great picture in the correct room setting. Plasma provides you with a CRT like picture. LED Backlit is on the way but I don’t think that Plasma will or should go away.

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  225. NEBUD . .. YOU MUST BE ON CRACK.

    YOU CANT EVEN CONSTRUCT A COMPLETE SENTENCE. MUCH LESS GET A CLEAR POINT ACROSS.

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  226. It is true that plasma’s have a better picture quality, but if one company says that they don’t like it, then other companies are going to follow suit. Now lets see how long Bluray lasts…

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  227. Stephanie Ireland Monday, February 23, 2009

    My Panasonic Plasma is thebomb.com/yourmom!! My mom has a LCD…not as good as my Plasma. No grey glares at certain angles; Plasma has clear, vivid picture at all angles for all to enjoy!

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  228. Well if lcds are so crappy response time wise , why do 95% of gamers use them? if it can keep up with that (50+ fps no streaking AND at over 1080p, res ), nfl sunday ticket is a walk in the park. btw damon i watch tv and game on the same twin 24′ widescreens (lcd)

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  229. Send in the Bush Trolls! Article on plasma v. LCD? Hell no! It’s a chance for cocksucking Bush loving trollbots to whine about all the ills of society not fixed within the first 90 days! Bush just took an 8 year dump, wiped his ass with the Constitution and didn’t flush on his way out. Someone hit the fan!

    Come on, there are plenty of ways you can continue destroying the planet and maintain your “Me First” lifestyle: Huge Escalade for the soccer mom, 900″ plasma for the diabetic armchair quarterback and NASCAR and go-karts for the overweight kids. Don’t give up!

    Deal with the huge problems YOU created during the past eight years. Truth hurts, trolls! Waaa!! Baby want ba-ba!

    Seriously, I love plasma.

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  230. wow way to be on topic NOT!

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  231. lol Todd.
    I live at my work 2003 model car with 48k miles on it. Your comments hilarious as they are are very hurtful. Can’t a fella wonder? Couldn’t we as a whole affect change to allow us to have more time with the “me first” my first baby…baby?
    Maybe a class on courteous driving? Shoot. We might could even make a rule that sez u gota live within (so) far from your work. Lets work together and create something to better us. Dont break me down! Build me up! Love me, my brother. lol
    u so funny

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