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	<title>Comments on: Faceoff: DEVONthink Pro Office vs. Evernote Premium</title>
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		<title>By: GTDfeeds</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/02/06/faceoff-devonthink-pro-office-vs-evernote-premium/#comment-692848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GTDfeeds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 18:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Faceoff: DEVONthink Pro Office vs. Evernote Premium: Apple News, Tips and Reviews «:  http://t.co/JJXiAneT #gtd]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faceoff: DEVONthink Pro Office vs. Evernote Premium: Apple News, Tips and Reviews «:  <a href="http://t.co/JJXiAneT" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/JJXiAneT</a> #gtd</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree totally with Brian. If you&#039;re storing lots of research paper PDFs, Papers is wonderful. I have about 1800 papers in Papers and it&#039;s easy to search and to add more papers by doing searches in IEEE, etc.

A KEY issue in all of this is, what happens if the program breaks semi-permanently for you, or the company goes belly-up or decides to charge $1,000 per year. Papers stores the PDFs in a Mac file hierarchy and puts the metadata into a database (perhaps sqlite3?). If Papers permanently broke tomorrow, I&#039;d still have all of my 1800 papers and still be able to search via Spotlight and carry on.

Similarly, Yojimbo puts everything in an sqlite3 database, so a little Terminal work could rescue everything if Bare Bones or Yojimbo suddenly became untenable. What about Evernote?

I wouldn&#039;t trust hours and hours and hours of work to something that I could not work around in the worst case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally with Brian. If you&#8217;re storing lots of research paper PDFs, Papers is wonderful. I have about 1800 papers in Papers and it&#8217;s easy to search and to add more papers by doing searches in IEEE, etc.</p>
<p>A KEY issue in all of this is, what happens if the program breaks semi-permanently for you, or the company goes belly-up or decides to charge $1,000 per year. Papers stores the PDFs in a Mac file hierarchy and puts the metadata into a database (perhaps sqlite3?). If Papers permanently broke tomorrow, I&#8217;d still have all of my 1800 papers and still be able to search via Spotlight and carry on.</p>
<p>Similarly, Yojimbo puts everything in an sqlite3 database, so a little Terminal work could rescue everything if Bare Bones or Yojimbo suddenly became untenable. What about Evernote?</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t trust hours and hours and hours of work to something that I could not work around in the worst case.</p>
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		<title>By: jerryb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jerryb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[too bad artificial intelligence couldn&#039;t detect and filter out this idiot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too bad artificial intelligence couldn&#8217;t detect and filter out this idiot</p>
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		<title>By: J. Scott Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Scott Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to second Julie K. It sounds to me as though you don&#039;t have a good handle on how to use Spotlight. That said, my response is to a very old post from you. So, you may have updated your knowledge of Spotlight since then.

Either way, Spotlight is a huge tool for organization and finding stuff.

With that said, DtOP has the intelligent assistant advantage and Evernote has the cloud storage advantage/disadvantage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to second Julie K. It sounds to me as though you don&#8217;t have a good handle on how to use Spotlight. That said, my response is to a very old post from you. So, you may have updated your knowledge of Spotlight since then.</p>
<p>Either way, Spotlight is a huge tool for organization and finding stuff.</p>
<p>With that said, DtOP has the intelligent assistant advantage and Evernote has the cloud storage advantage/disadvantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;For those people using this software to organise scientific papers and web searches, I can heartily recommend using &quot;Papers&quot; by Mekentosj.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those people using this software to organise scientific papers and web searches, I can heartily recommend using &#8220;Papers&#8221; by Mekentosj.</p>
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		<title>By: Brum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I second this. Evernote was perfect till I hit the 2500 notes mark (some of them are jumbo PDFs). Now it got too slow. Till I worked on Windows, the Evernote was the only option. Recently I have switched to Mac and I am ready to go with DT. I may still keep EN Premium for daily errands, but hope to shift research to DT.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second this. Evernote was perfect till I hit the 2500 notes mark (some of them are jumbo PDFs). Now it got too slow. Till I worked on Windows, the Evernote was the only option. Recently I have switched to Mac and I am ready to go with DT. I may still keep EN Premium for daily errands, but hope to shift research to DT.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It can! Paperless office consist of Macs, Fujitsu ScanSnap Scan to PDF, OCR with Acrobat 9 Pro for Mac, and Spotlight for index and searching.  I can find anything in seconds.  We still file in folders and subfolders, but OCR and Spotlight on the Mac Os X works perfectly for us. I use Evernote for archive interesting reference items, but nothing important. Doesn&#039;t Devonthink use a proprietary database? I just keep it simple with OCRed PDFs and Spotlight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can! Paperless office consist of Macs, Fujitsu ScanSnap Scan to PDF, OCR with Acrobat 9 Pro for Mac, and Spotlight for index and searching.  I can find anything in seconds.  We still file in folders and subfolders, but OCR and Spotlight on the Mac Os X works perfectly for us. I use Evernote for archive interesting reference items, but nothing important. Doesn&#8217;t Devonthink use a proprietary database? I just keep it simple with OCRed PDFs and Spotlight.</p>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ummm.... Random off topic and a waste of EVERYONE&#039;S time....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230;. Random off topic and a waste of EVERYONE&#8217;S time&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just LOVE Evernote and use it happily and heavily since one year. It was the program to guide my change from PC to Mac: since I&#039;m in research, I used OneNote daily and Evernote was the perfect tool for migrating this data. Even today, for meetings, phone calls, etc.: Evernote is the application of choice.


BUT
- I hardly use the iPhone app, since the iPhone itself has great note taking features. This is mainly since I hate waiting for the Evernote app - it&#039;s too slow in initializing
- I don&#039;t want my Data any longer on other people&#039;s servers. It just feels wrong. 
- After three years, you start paying more for Evernote than you do for DTP.
- Sorting in Evernote is pain in the ass. It&#039;s not good for long-term data storage. 
-The more data you have in Evernote, the slower the search is - even if your processor screams as mine does.

So I decided for changing to DTP. It feels better to have power on your data and the AI is a dream for researchers. 


BUT
- The sorter is quite nerving, but that&#039;s forgetable if you&#039;re ignorant like me
- The sorter is blocking my workflow. It&#039;s too slow and not responsive enough
- The user interface is a nightmare, but managable.
- The note taking feature is minor to the html-Evernote version. I&#039;m missing the check-boxes, lines, bullet points, etc.
-The OCR seems to me worse than Evernote&#039;s - especially what pictures are concerned

MY (!) CONCLUSION
- Switching over to DevonThink, but keeping Evernote
- Changing from Evernote premium to Evernote standard
- Using Evernote only for harmless stuff and export every note taken there into DTP soon. 
-Using DTP for my paperless office and (research) work
-Disabling Evernote&#039;s clipper and browser button
-Using the Sorter - even if it sucks.
-As it is said here: Evernote is the short term memory, DTP the long term one.


&gt;&gt;&gt; Writing this and hoping that the DTP gurus are reading, taking care of it and making their genius app even more killer than it&#039;s now:
- a faster and better looking sorter
- a native iPhone app or, better: using iPhone apps like Camera, notes, etc. themselves since they tend to be fastest 
- a web-interface that rocks and which is fully customizable (especially what&#039;s the data choice about) - or, alternatively: a better and faster local web server with better security parameters.
- a much cleaner interface which looks more Mac native
- MOST IMPORTANT: a better and html empowered note taking feature which can be used in hard daily work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just LOVE Evernote and use it happily and heavily since one year. It was the program to guide my change from PC to Mac: since I&#8217;m in research, I used OneNote daily and Evernote was the perfect tool for migrating this data. Even today, for meetings, phone calls, etc.: Evernote is the application of choice.</p>
<p>BUT<br />
- I hardly use the iPhone app, since the iPhone itself has great note taking features. This is mainly since I hate waiting for the Evernote app &#8211; it&#8217;s too slow in initializing<br />
- I don&#8217;t want my Data any longer on other people&#8217;s servers. It just feels wrong.<br />
- After three years, you start paying more for Evernote than you do for DTP.<br />
- Sorting in Evernote is pain in the ass. It&#8217;s not good for long-term data storage.<br />
-The more data you have in Evernote, the slower the search is &#8211; even if your processor screams as mine does.</p>
<p>So I decided for changing to DTP. It feels better to have power on your data and the AI is a dream for researchers. </p>
<p>BUT<br />
- The sorter is quite nerving, but that&#8217;s forgetable if you&#8217;re ignorant like me<br />
- The sorter is blocking my workflow. It&#8217;s too slow and not responsive enough<br />
- The user interface is a nightmare, but managable.<br />
- The note taking feature is minor to the html-Evernote version. I&#8217;m missing the check-boxes, lines, bullet points, etc.<br />
-The OCR seems to me worse than Evernote&#8217;s &#8211; especially what pictures are concerned</p>
<p>MY (!) CONCLUSION<br />
- Switching over to DevonThink, but keeping Evernote<br />
- Changing from Evernote premium to Evernote standard<br />
- Using Evernote only for harmless stuff and export every note taken there into DTP soon.<br />
-Using DTP for my paperless office and (research) work<br />
-Disabling Evernote&#8217;s clipper and browser button<br />
-Using the Sorter &#8211; even if it sucks.<br />
-As it is said here: Evernote is the short term memory, DTP the long term one.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Writing this and hoping that the DTP gurus are reading, taking care of it and making their genius app even more killer than it&#8217;s now:<br />
- a faster and better looking sorter<br />
- a native iPhone app or, better: using iPhone apps like Camera, notes, etc. themselves since they tend to be fastest<br />
- a web-interface that rocks and which is fully customizable (especially what&#8217;s the data choice about) &#8211; or, alternatively: a better and faster local web server with better security parameters.<br />
- a much cleaner interface which looks more Mac native<br />
- MOST IMPORTANT: a better and html empowered note taking feature which can be used in hard daily work.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gideon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I experiment with DTP for scholarly purposes. The idea is to us  as a database of all ideas, quotations, references, links to papers, websites etc. The search possibilities are the major advantage for me.
What I miss in the program are
1. better writing capabilities (outlines, notes)
2. dates. DTP automatically enters creation and modification date, but it seems impossible to add a columns with &quot;day due&quot;. 

I looked at Circus-Ponies notebook. It seems very much suited for scholarly purposes. However, I am put off by the paper notebook metaphor, and I am not sure you can link files other than PDFs.
Any ideas and suggestions?
Thanks, Gideon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I experiment with DTP for scholarly purposes. The idea is to us  as a database of all ideas, quotations, references, links to papers, websites etc. The search possibilities are the major advantage for me.<br />
What I miss in the program are<br />
1. better writing capabilities (outlines, notes)<br />
2. dates. DTP automatically enters creation and modification date, but it seems impossible to add a columns with &#8220;day due&#8221;. </p>
<p>I looked at Circus-Ponies notebook. It seems very much suited for scholarly purposes. However, I am put off by the paper notebook metaphor, and I am not sure you can link files other than PDFs.<br />
Any ideas and suggestions?<br />
Thanks, Gideon</p>
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