Comments on: Google Is Not Your Sugar Daddy

By: Google Is A For Profit Company @ e-Healthcare Solutions Blog

Google Is A For Profit Company @ e-Healthcare Solutions Blog — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:09:43 +0000

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By: Printed Matters » Online advertising: newspapers never even tried

Printed Matters » Online advertising: newspapers never even tried — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:36:41 +0000

[...] Sugar daddy? That’s not earning revenues. Paywalls, donations, tip jars, Kachingle? Forms of pay-for-content. Targeted search ads, upsells in business directory, selling other services? Forms of advertising. [...]

By: Google News: ads please, but don’t ask for payment for news stories as refusal often offends

Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:17:59 +0000

[...] these arguments? # Google carries no newspaper content itself, beyond headlines, a few words and links. It sends [...]

By: eben spinoza

eben spinoza — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:45:39 +0000

Tom,
The analogy to illegal video downloading isn’t applicable in the unionization scenario.

Google currently spiders publications to include them in its index. You seem to be saying that Google would continue to do so even if these publication requested Google to stop doing so.
Wouldn’t that violate Google’s “do no evil” mantra?
Wouldn’t that legitimately expose Google to legal action by publication union.

By: TPile » Blog Archive » Increasing Concerns Raised Over Google’s Book Search Settlement

Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:46:03 +0000

[...] Finally, as for my initial fear that this would signal something of an “open season” on Google, with demanding money from Google for Google daring to provide the service of helping others find their works, we’re already seeing some of that in the early stages. Some in the newspaper business are using the book settlement as a template for how Google should pay them too. [...]

By: tom

tom — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:28:16 +0000

A union wouldn’t change anything.
If content was blocked, someone would scrape it back into the index. coyright? No one has stopped illegal video downloads…
Newspaper have their nuts in a vice, but should just be happy to get extra revenue from the google traffic through ad display. That’s what all mediums do.
No sane newpaper director would cut his readership or reduce the amount of ways people can get to his content.

By: eben spinoza

eben spinoza — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:49:05 +0000

I believe that if every major newspaper and magazine colluded to:
1) create a search engine of their own that indexed their sites, and
2) blocked Google from indexing their sites
Google would quickly agree to pay for “landing rights” on their properties.
In effect, the newspapers and magazines must “unionize” against Google, which manages the distribution of their products.

If Google didn’t like that, perhaps it could start its own news organization.

By: Jim

Jim — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:29:53 +0000

Here’s another phony statement in that article: in no way has Google EVER paid publishers to scan their books. In fact, just the opposite– that was the root of their lawsuit against them, with the settlement that pubs will get a CUT of any online sales of copyrighted books.

If anything, those who should gripe are the college LIBRARIES who have let Google scan their inventory for free!

By: Ori Regev

Ori Regev — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:19:53 +0000

Great analysis.

Keep in mind, though, that information overload causes many people to use Google News as their principle news source and never bother to click on the links. They and are satisfied with the headlines and the short excerpt that Google presents on the front page. Thus, Google news becomes a content destination using other people’s content.

Only Google knows the click-through rates of these headlines…

By: Dear Newspapers: Focus On Enabling Your Community; Not Whining About Who Owes You Money

Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:01:27 +0000

[...] That column had numerous factual problems — torn to shreds nicely by both Mark Potts and Mathew Ingram. Again, though, the issue is that the focus is on just getting someone else (Google, instead of [...]

By: TPile » Blog Archive » Dear Newspapers: Focus On Enabling Your Community; Not Whining About Who Owes You Money

Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:01:09 +0000

By: Henry Scott

Henry Scott — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:33:00 +0000

If there were no one generating content, why would I use Google? Sure Google sends traffic to newspapers. But if I couldn’t find NY Times stories doing a Google search, or free at the NY Times site, I sure would be paying for access to that NY Times site.

I know many people believe news is generic. But I’m guessing that’s because they don’t read the news, or they understand that my next door neighbor’s blog is a lot less important to me than a story on a complex issue written by an experienced journalist and curated by the world’s top editors.

By: Chad

Chad — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:02:04 +0000

Google is making money indexing content?!! Oh the humanity!

Google is a search engine, they are doing what they are supposed to be doing. Block em if you don’t want your stuff on there newspapers, I dare you.

By: Jonathan Mendez

Jonathan Mendez — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:28:13 +0000

No one seems to care about what’s best for the people who use the web. Clearly people like aggregation, search, et al. Maybe it’s because 1% of each day’s news(paper) is relevant to me.

The fight over an open web is over and thus the value prop has changed from being about content to being about distribution. Now that CPMs are falling everyone is crying. They can all look in the mirror instead of Mountain View for the blame.

By: google isn’t my sugar daddy, what??? « iSteph’s Blog

google isn’t my sugar daddy, what??? « iSteph’s Blog — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:10:04 +0000

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By: Christina

Christina — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:02:14 +0000

How is Google robbing news sites of eyeballs they could be getting? How likely is it that I would be reading an article in a Phoenix newspaper from Iowa without Google news? If I find the title and the opening sentence interesting enough, I will click through to read the entire article. Otherwise, I would never see the article or the newspapers page (and advertising). I agree that the newspapers are getting FREE exposure from Google and INCREASED eyeballs…
If you post public information to the web, be grateful for traffic from Google. Instead of complaining, improve your web savvy and SEO and watch the unique views increase!!