First impressions- Windows 7 on HP Mini 2140 netbook

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cimg1283I have only been running the Windows 7 beta on the HP Mini 2140 netbook for a few hours but I have been using the beta on other computers for a while so I think my first impressions are valid to visit at this point.

The HP Mini 2140 is a great netbook and it had Windows XP installed as delivered to me so I can’t compare Windows 7 to Vista on the 2140.  That’s OK since I haven’t found Vista to run worth a flip on any netbook I’ve tried so far.  The 2140 runs XP really well so Windows 7 has its work cut out for it to get me to replace it.

I should tell you how I installed Windows 7 since I remarked yesterday about my difficulties.  What I ended up doing was ripping an ISO image from the Win7 DVD (using the Lenovo w700ds) and copied that 2.5 GB image to an SD card.  I then put that SD card into a USB card reader, plugged it into the Mini 2140, and then used the Virtual CD powertoy to mount is as a persistent drive.

The install worked flawlessly that way and took a little over 30 minutes.  I am impressed with how much the Win7 install process has improved with little interaction required on my part.  I was also happy to see that the install now asks for wireless network information as part of the process so that the computer is connected to the web when the install is complete.  It makes it easier to get going that way.

All hardware in the Mini 2140 was recognized and fully functional from the install process with the exception of the ethernet controller.  The first Windows Update took care of that and everything seems to work as expected out of the box.  That is nice.

My first impression of Win7 is that the interface is much more responsive on the netbook.  Past attempts of running Vista on netbooks left me frustrated with the slow pace of the GUI and I’m glad that Win7 is much better in this area.  Things happen quickly as they should and multiple windows open don’t bog things down.  Win7 is the way Vista should be on lower spec hardware.

It is natural to keep comparing Win7 to Vista while using it because frankly the UI hasn’t changed very much.  I don’t know if the UI will continue to evolve, after all Win7 is still in beta, but it sure looks like Vista.  I don’t know if this is a good thing or not, I sort of expected the interface to improve.

The new task bar is better than the one in Vista but it takes a little getting used to.  The Quick Launch toolbar is now gone as you “pin” frequently used applications directly to the task bar.  This means that the task bar is no longer a task bar since it mixes running app icons with pinned apps on the same bar, whether they are running or not.  This is sort of like the dock in OS X but I find I have to really pay attention to tell if a given program is running or not by looking at the task bar.

The new Aero preview is very cool, hover over the icon of a running app in the task bar and get a fully interactive preview of the program window.  I like how you can close the app from the preview without having to open the actual program window.

Aero preview

Aero preview

The window management features of Win7 that I covered in a video segment previously definitely make it easier to use lower resolution screens such as on this netbook.  I find I regularly move windows around, drag them to the top of the screen to maximize or to the side of the screen.  It is easier to work with multiple programs running simultaneously with Windows 7 no question.  Microsoft has done a good job in this regard.

Window tiling

Window tiling

The Start Menu offers good searching and previous file tracking as Kevin covered previously but for the most part the Start Menu looks (and acts) just like the one in Vista.  I’m not sure that’s a good thing as the one in Vista never really impressed me, I was hoping for something different (and better).  It works and is very responsive but it’s boring, quite frankly.

Windows 7 interface

Windows 7 interface

That description sort of fits the entire Windows 7 UI experience, for the most part it looks like Vista.  Given the problem that so many have with Vista and the huge numbers of folks who have refused to upgrade from XP I’m not sure what the response will be to the fact that Win7 seems like Vista on the surface.  It almost seems like an incremental upgrade from Vista and that might not be good enough for those who have refused to jump from XP.

Comparing Windows 7 to XP on the netbook the performance is just as good as I get in XP and that’s even with all the extra eye candy that Win7 brings on board.  Microsoft has done a lot of work in this regard and it has paid off, at least on the netbook.  I am so far very pleased with Windows 7 on the HP Mini 2140 and would have no problem adopting it permanently over XP at this point.  I intend to do a video of Win7 in action on the Mini 2140 soon.   Before you ask, it’s not been very long, but so far I am seeing similar battery life on the 2140 that I get in XP, which is pretty good.

29 Comments

Ayon

hi i bought the 2140 with 2 gb ram running vista basic. It works ok but could be faster i suppose. As its a netbook i expected slower performance than my regular fully loaded notebook.

Is it worth it to purchase a windows 7 update on my system? If im buying an update, i should update my regular notebook?

Thanks in advance for your comments.

soesan

I had hp mini 2140, can i install windows 7 that my netbook?
i love hp mini 2140. It’s so cute.

jawad

yes u definitely can…i am running it on mine without any problem but do download the latest drivers from HP Support site…

jawad

i have recently installed windows 7 on my mini 2140. the installation was flawless and it took me about 25 mins..its working great even better than the xp which came with the machine however there is only issue i got and that is with the inbuilt Bluetooth device..
when i run it, windows explorer crashes and restarts. the Bluetooth is not working at all…
any advice on this…..?????

sonietje

@jawed: go to the download section of the hp support site and download the drivers for win7. That should do it. Pls keep me informed because I just bought a 2140 and I also plan to install win7 on it one of these days.

jawad

yup that did it thanks :) and you should go for win 7 on this machine its awesome….

Tropolite

I’ve installed Win7 on my 2133 – both the RC and now the RTM.

Unfortunately it does not recognise the inbuilt SD Card reader.

Has anyone else had a problem with it or what drivers have you used?

Thanx in advance…

TS

James, can you please explain how you went from mounting the drive as persistent and getting a fresh install? I used the Virtual CD to mount the drive, but then what? If I just run setup from the mounted drive, it does an update rather than fresh install. If I reboot, it doesn’t allow me to boot from the mounted drive and hence do a fresh install. Are you running the virtual CD software from the SD/USB? Apologies for the questions, but am trying to get this sorted. Many thanks.

Joel

Awsome review. I just loaded windows 7 onto my old laptop with only 512 mb of ram. I am amazed how fast it runs. Have you tried running mac os x on this awsome device. If not, please do.

TateJ

Ijust loaded Windows 7 Beta with Nortons 360 onto my Dell Mini9. Wow what a difference! My Mini originally came with Unbuntu and the and Windows 7 Beta runs faster.

I’m glad I tried Windows 7.

William

You have some valuable insight into the HP 2140. In fact, your reviews tipped me over the edge to get one. I get it in a couple of weeks. I found out from HP that custom configs come from China, and they are currently closed for a week due to Chinese New Year. I should get it on 2/13/2009. Can’t wait.

Corey McLaughlin

I’ve ordered the 2140 with Vista Home installed and plan on blowing it away and install Windows 7. I’m hoping it will be arriving next Tuesday. Since I have not seen this unit in person I hope I’m going to like the size. After using a MacBook Pro 15″ the size might be an issue for me.

Thanks for this post as I was trying to find a solution to installing Windows 7 via USB or SD.

James Kendrick

I ran both Vista and XP on the 2133 back when I evaluated one and based on my current experience of Win7 on Atom-based netbooks I think it should run as good as XP on the 2133. I look forward to your thoughts on that if you load it.

Rick Broida

I’m also planning to take Windows 7 for a spin on my HP 2133, which is DOG-slow running Vista. It’ll be interesting to see the results.

Peter

James, have you encountered any bugs yet?

I’ve been using W7 full-time on my desktop since it came out a few weeks ago and I’ve encountered many bugs and some big show stopping ones. (I linked to my article)

W7 is fine on my S101 just because I only do a few things on it.

J Simonsen

to Alan: On my 2133, I went from Vista to Win 7, and it was much quicker. Even with all the flashy visual stuff (Aero) enabled it still worked well.

joey

when is the 2140 coming out? don’t even see it on hp’s site.. jk can you do comparison shot of 2140 vs, macbook or pro?

Alex Whiteside

GooThings2Life: It’s not a violation of copyright law, it’s a violation of the EULA. Those are in a dubious sort of legal limbo.

GoodThings2Life

@Tim… Mac OSX doesn’t run on anything other than Apple hardware UNLESS you’re willing to violate copyright law and use a hacked install media and do it using the osx86 project (which may or may not be worth it for you). Many are willing to do so, and kudos to them, but it’s a caveat you should be aware of before leaping in.

@James… good review, and definitely consistent with results being posted around the web (including my own experiences with Win7). I am running it on a Latitude E6400 (completely maxed out) and a Pavilion tx2525 tablet, and I’m loving it in both cases. It just runs like a champ, and I feel that’s saying a lot considering how much I love XP.

For the interface, it takes some getting used to it, definitely. The single complaint that I keep hearing from people is that “it’s different” so they automatically hate it without trying it and become angry about the fact they can’t switch it back to “classic” mode without some effort. But everyone willing to work with it seems to be adapting very quickly (big surprise).

Tim

Hi!
Thank you for your great review! Because I’m thinking about buying a 2140 for my girlfriend – and she is a big MAC fan – I would really need to know, if Mac os X will run on this sweet machine.
Because you seem to be the only one on the planet, who is really able to try new things on his 2140 – me (and probl. others) would be glad if you could give it a try. :)
Thanks a lot.

Alex Whiteside

My favourite feature of the Vista/Win7 start menu is the type-to-search thing for apps. It does control panel applets too so I don’t have to dig around any more. That aside, yeah, it’s not all that impressive an interface update. It just feels much fresher.

Jon

The free version of AVG 8 seems to work fine on Windows 7. At least it does for me.

Mark

With all this talk of how W7 runs so well on netbooks, one has to think how well this is going to run on a quad core desktop!

Eddie W

I installed Win 7 on a TC1100 several weeks ago, and it’s run flawlessly since. I’m most impressed by the speed and still being able to use the new interface.

My experience with the network install was not as smooth. The system wouldn’t recognize the network, so I had to plug into Ethernet. However, when the first download of patches came down, all was well and I could connect to my WPA2 network.

I’ve installed Office 2007 Professional, Project 2007, and Visio 2007, and am having no problems with those. But (isn’t there always a “but”?), I haven’t been able to get virus protection (McAfee doesn’t install), so it’s just being used as a play system — though it’s sooo tempting to use this as my primary system, I’m resisting.

Alan Edwards

How much quicker is the 2140 than the 2133?

I’m toying with putting the Windows 7 beta on my 2133 for a quick play, but if it’s going to be too slow I won’t bother.

Anyone know if the S3 Chrome graphics can do the full Aero thing?

Alan.

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