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The folks from the Participatory Culture Foundation (PCF) have just published a beta preview to Miro 2.0. The upcoming version of the video client is going to have a more streamlined interface that will make it possible to integrate streaming video sites like Hulu, and the […]

miro203The folks from the Participatory Culture Foundation (PCF) have just published a beta preview to Miro 2.0. The upcoming version of the video client is going to have a more streamlined interface that will make it possible to integrate streaming video sites like Hulu, and the software will offer some overall performance improvements.

One could wonder if that’s really enough to compete with iTunes or the recently revamped Vuze, but PCF’s director of business development, Jesse Patel, recently argued that the real competition for Miro are not other clients, but browsers. “The real challenge is to produce a better way of watching TV online through software,” he told me when we sat down last November at Newteevee Live. But that’s not the only challenge the Miro makers are facing. They’re also dealing with the difficult task of staying true to their open source and media reform ideals while staying afloat financially.

While Miro isn’t exactly as popular as iTunes, Patel says the client has a solid user base. The PCF’s update servers register about 600,000 active unique users every month, and there is an active core base that contributes translations, bug reports and other things to the open source project.

Those users will certainly be happy about the new version, which is a big improvement over previous Miro incarnations, if only for the fact that it actually runs quite smoothly. I even could get it to run without any major hiccups on my old, first generation Mac Mini, whereas all of the 1.x versions of Miro used to bring the machine to a grinding halt.

The cleaned-up interface is more functional, but users of previous versions will still find it familiar. Patel told me that the most notable difference is the easy integration of sites like Hulu or Joost. Users can add any site through a simple menu and then browse and play back Flash-based videos right within Miro.

The client still features site-specific searches for YouTube, Blip and other streaming providers, complete with the ability to download and play back Flash video files. However, there is no way to add new sites to Miro’s search yet, so you still have to search Hulu and Joost individually if you’re looking for TV shows.

Speaking of TV shows: The PCF has previously made a point of striking alliances with public broadcasters, but shunning commercial platforms with DRM restrictions. Patel told me that this this is not changing. Streams from Hulu are apparently OK, but don’t expect any Hollywood blockbuster downloads through the client anytime soon. “If we used DRM we could have amazing amounts of really high-quality content on Miro, and we would be able to sell it and make money on it,” he said. But DRM just isn’t compatible with the PCF’s mission.

So how does one promote independent media, but still pay one’s staff? The PCF is a nonprofit organization, and it has mostly relied on grants in the past. In fact, it just received $600,000 last fall from the Knight Foundation for creating a Miro-related video guide that focuses on local video makers in select cities.

But the group also wants to explore more commercial features. Some of the things that Miro might experiment with are sponsorship deals and video subscriptions for DRM-free indie movies. Even video ads are a possibility, but there are no immediate plans to introduce advertising. Patel told me that the nonprofit structure might make it harder to explore some commercial avenues, but it also helps because there’s nobody expecting a return on investment. At least not a monetary one. Said Patel: “We’re not (expected to achieve) profit, but media reform.”

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  1. Thedigi Talhobo Thursday, January 22, 2009

    Interesting that Miro 2.0 and Boxee Alpha for windows are release around the same time. Who will win the battle for that critical connection to the big screen?

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  3. I have been a fan of Miro since it was the Democracy Player.. Glad to see that Miro is launching a new version!

  4. William Maggos Friday, January 23, 2009

    Miro is great! I am constantly running it on my mac mini hooked up to my HDTV. But my main reason is to provide bandwidth for torrents (which brings down distribution costs substantially) for shows distributed via torrent rss, like Democracy Now! I would love to use it more often to actually watch the programming, but it doesn’t have a 10-ft UI (like Front Row) yet. I’d love to see them team up with a set-top hardware maker(s). There are a million reasons to love Miro, especially if you’d like to see a more open media future. The gatekeeper-free nature of the net combined with the capacity for cultural resonance that video has in our lives. That’s what Internet TV should be.

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  6. Janko Roettgers Friday, January 23, 2009

    I don’t think there will be a set-top box or 10 foot UI version of Miro anytime soon. They’ve told me that their “core focus” is on the PC-based client.

    William, did you ever try to use a combination of Boxee & Transmission?

  7. I’ve tried using Boxee. It’s nice, but I couldn’t understand how they deal with podcasts, especially Torrent RSS. It seems like they are having you notify them of this new content, then they stream it to you, which seems completely backward. Makes me think they want to become another gatekeeper, while Miro’s whole point is to build an environment without them.

    And isn’t Transmission just a bittorrent client? There are tons of those out there, but I’ll hold onto Miro for that function at least.

    Janko, do you agree that Miro is pointing to the future we all want, creators and consumers, if we could just figure out a decent way to support the creators? It is pretty damn easy to put up a website, be seen by the world, and stay completely independent. From what I gather, the folks at Miro want to reinvent TV along the same lines. That’s inspiring, and worthy of all the support we can give IMHO.

    And anyway, the 10-foot UI doesn’t seem like it would be that difficult. I’d love to hear from the Miro team about this issue directly.

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  9. Baby carriers slings Friday, November 13, 2009

    I’m all for media reform! It will be interesting to see how this develops.

  10. I just tried it out but does not seem like a revolution, only a good platform for viewing copyright-legal video material (we’re not 100% interested in this).
    I will explore better.

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