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	<title>Comments on: Is Verizon Wireless Network Extender a Ripoff?</title>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nov 2010,  I live in a dead zone no cell reception.  Spoke to a verizon rep and he offered me a 50% discount on the extender and recieved it in 3 days.  Set it up and I have full service inside my home.  All for $132.00 one time fee. NO monthly fee&#039;s.  Rep was very helpful. 
 Happy in Erie Co, Pa]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nov 2010,  I live in a dead zone no cell reception.  Spoke to a verizon rep and he offered me a 50% discount on the extender and recieved it in 3 days.  Set it up and I have full service inside my home.  All for $132.00 one time fee. NO monthly fee&#8217;s.  Rep was very helpful.<br />
 Happy in Erie Co, Pa</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/01/19/verizon-wireless-network-extender-femtocell-is-a-ripoff/#comment-158317</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Just an update...I&#039;ve been using the wireless extender unit for a week now. We moved recently from the state capital to 30 mins outside of the city where our cellphone signal was extremely poor, and non-existent inside.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do think its messed up that all Verizon stores/retailers do not offer this device over the counter. Inside, you must contact Verizon by phone and wait for them to ship it to you. Our experience did not go smoothly. Because of so many issues with our service, we were told we&#039;d be given a discount and be able to purchase this suggested device for $99. The rep went on to say it would be sent via FedEx and arrive in 2-3 days. Because our home phone had not yet been hooked up yet, those 2-3 days seemed like eternity (especially since we have a home-based business).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When nearly a week passed, we called Verizon to inquire about our order. We were told that the order had been canceled. HUH??? What for? They said it was because they could not confirm the discounted price. Why didn&#039;t anyone call, I asked. They had no answer for that. Finally, after speaking to three different reps, they put the order back into the system and apologized. They shipped it via FedEx overnight and it did finally arrive.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When opening the box, I happened to read we would need a broadband internet connection. I was NEVER told this by any of the reps I had spoken to previously. This was very misleading. I assumed it would communicate solely via GPS/satellite. Because we did not have our internet hooked up, we had to wait another 10 days!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The device really is worth having...IF you already have the internet. It&#039;s VERY easy to set up. One AC cord for power, one ethernet cable to your router, and you&#039;re good to go.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are NO monthly fees of any kind. Just the purchase price of the unit. I get 4 out of 4 bars throughout most of the house and I&#039;m certainly happy this equipment is available. Otherwise, my Verizon service would be useless here at home. Hope this info helps.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an update&#8230;I&#8217;ve been using the wireless extender unit for a week now. We moved recently from the state capital to 30 mins outside of the city where our cellphone signal was extremely poor, and non-existent inside.</p>
<p>I do think its messed up that all Verizon stores/retailers do not offer this device over the counter. Inside, you must contact Verizon by phone and wait for them to ship it to you. Our experience did not go smoothly. Because of so many issues with our service, we were told we&#8217;d be given a discount and be able to purchase this suggested device for $99. The rep went on to say it would be sent via FedEx and arrive in 2-3 days. Because our home phone had not yet been hooked up yet, those 2-3 days seemed like eternity (especially since we have a home-based business).</p>
<p>When nearly a week passed, we called Verizon to inquire about our order. We were told that the order had been canceled. HUH??? What for? They said it was because they could not confirm the discounted price. Why didn&#8217;t anyone call, I asked. They had no answer for that. Finally, after speaking to three different reps, they put the order back into the system and apologized. They shipped it via FedEx overnight and it did finally arrive.</p>
<p>When opening the box, I happened to read we would need a broadband internet connection. I was NEVER told this by any of the reps I had spoken to previously. This was very misleading. I assumed it would communicate solely via GPS/satellite. Because we did not have our internet hooked up, we had to wait another 10 days!</p>
<p>The device really is worth having&#8230;IF you already have the internet. It&#8217;s VERY easy to set up. One AC cord for power, one ethernet cable to your router, and you&#8217;re good to go.</p>
<p>There are NO monthly fees of any kind. Just the purchase price of the unit. I get 4 out of 4 bars throughout most of the house and I&#8217;m certainly happy this equipment is available. Otherwise, my Verizon service would be useless here at home. Hope this info helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/01/19/verizon-wireless-network-extender-femtocell-is-a-ripoff/#comment-158316</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ariel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 03:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;We got the service extender just today..  We live in Missouri in the boonies, HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO USE MY CELLPHONE WHILE ON MY COUCH!!  We have NEVER been able to have service here, and with the service extender we can finally use our cellphones!  It is pricey, but amazing!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got the service extender just today..  We live in Missouri in the boonies, HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO USE MY CELLPHONE WHILE ON MY COUCH!!  We have NEVER been able to have service here, and with the service extender we can finally use our cellphones!  It is pricey, but amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean froim Chicago</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/01/19/verizon-wireless-network-extender-femtocell-is-a-ripoff/#comment-158315</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean froim Chicago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I have used the AT&amp;T micocell and it seems like a better product.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The AT&amp;T model get&#039;s 3G data connection.  Note: I am confused about this because shouldn&#039;t the device be using my internet connection?  In the case of a site in NM. the user gets faster data speeds via the bonded t1&#039;s then at&amp;T 3g network.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AT&amp;T&#039;s device lets you let only numbers you want to have access to the device.  (look I&#039;m ok with 911 calls going out but that may screw up the police as they will come to my location rather then the callers)  Note: all of this is a mute point if your property is big enough nobody else is going to ride your connection.&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So my recap is this: should be locked down device that supports data speeds as fast as your local internet connection... Aka work like wifi.
If you home is a dead spot this is far easier then messing with a repeater.  THose are great if you can run the wire and keep the outdoor antenna 50&#039; (as the crow files) from the indoor antenna... but it&#039;s not fun.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sean~&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used the AT&amp;T micocell and it seems like a better product.</p>
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<li>The AT&amp;T model get&#8217;s 3G data connection.  Note: I am confused about this because shouldn&#8217;t the device be using my internet connection?  In the case of a site in NM. the user gets faster data speeds via the bonded t1&#8242;s then at&amp;T 3g network.</li>
<li>AT&amp;T&#8217;s device lets you let only numbers you want to have access to the device.  (look I&#8217;m ok with 911 calls going out but that may screw up the police as they will come to my location rather then the callers)  Note: all of this is a mute point if your property is big enough nobody else is going to ride your connection.</li>
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<p>So my recap is this: should be locked down device that supports data speeds as fast as your local internet connection&#8230; Aka work like wifi.<br />
If you home is a dead spot this is far easier then messing with a repeater.  THose are great if you can run the wire and keep the outdoor antenna 50&#8242; (as the crow files) from the indoor antenna&#8230; but it&#8217;s not fun.</p>
<p>Sean~</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/01/19/verizon-wireless-network-extender-femtocell-is-a-ripoff/#comment-158314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I have recently purchased a network extender. Outside the house I have great reception, inside the house the signal comes and goes. I will happily share some bandwidth for a reliable phone. So far, calls using the extender are crystal clear, where they used to be choppy. The device is $250 with a $50 mail in rebate right now. There are no monthly services charges.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do feel a little wrong that I am paying to extend their network. I can keep access to the device to my phones, but that just seems petty. I would happily take a larger one from them and share with more of the neighborhood.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;$200 one time charge to be able to have a great strong signal inside the house is not too bad.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jacob&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently purchased a network extender. Outside the house I have great reception, inside the house the signal comes and goes. I will happily share some bandwidth for a reliable phone. So far, calls using the extender are crystal clear, where they used to be choppy. The device is $250 with a $50 mail in rebate right now. There are no monthly services charges.</p>
<p>I do feel a little wrong that I am paying to extend their network. I can keep access to the device to my phones, but that just seems petty. I would happily take a larger one from them and share with more of the neighborhood.</p>
<p>$200 one time charge to be able to have a great strong signal inside the house is not too bad.</p>
<p>Jacob</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond, jamestown,ny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raymond, jamestown,ny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;i have the network extender and LOVE IT! i also was able to get my 25% discount.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have the network extender and LOVE IT! i also was able to get my 25% discount.</p>
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		<title>By: BeachRider</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/01/19/verizon-wireless-network-extender-femtocell-is-a-ripoff/#comment-158312</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BeachRider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Whoever TC is needs to take a breath. It can absolutely be impossible to get an indoor cell signal due to things beyond Verizon&#039;s control (e.g. building construction). That being said, Verizon will be flamed by people that get crappy reception when VZW marketing drones on about its venerable cellular coverage. For an individual, if the $200 lets you kill-off a landline, then it is easily worth it. I suppose that there are other easy justifications, too. Frankly, it sounds like a nice-to-have dispensation to Verizon, in some cases.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever TC is needs to take a breath. It can absolutely be impossible to get an indoor cell signal due to things beyond Verizon&#8217;s control (e.g. building construction). That being said, Verizon will be flamed by people that get crappy reception when VZW marketing drones on about its venerable cellular coverage. For an individual, if the $200 lets you kill-off a landline, then it is easily worth it. I suppose that there are other easy justifications, too. Frankly, it sounds like a nice-to-have dispensation to Verizon, in some cases.</p>
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		<title>By: S D</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Got them down 60% to $100.00.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How? First I had them put in a service ticket and they then verified my home has poor service (a few doors down and it&#039;s 3G?!?). I had recently bought 2 Droids, work partially from home, have a $160/mo plan, a two-year commitment which will roughly equate to $4,000.00 over the next two years for Verizon. I told them I would push my complaint to the highest level to break my contract and they would thus lose this revenue if they didn&#039;t provide me with a network extender for free (also threw in a bit about the cost of obtaining new customers rather than retaining current customer). They came down 60% and I took it.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got them down 60% to $100.00.</p>
<p>How? First I had them put in a service ticket and they then verified my home has poor service (a few doors down and it&#8217;s 3G?!?). I had recently bought 2 Droids, work partially from home, have a $160/mo plan, a two-year commitment which will roughly equate to $4,000.00 over the next two years for Verizon. I told them I would push my complaint to the highest level to break my contract and they would thus lose this revenue if they didn&#8217;t provide me with a network extender for free (also threw in a bit about the cost of obtaining new customers rather than retaining current customer). They came down 60% and I took it.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Nolin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Nolin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I just purchased the extender and now I have full signal and go go anywhere in my house or to the driveway and not drop the call. I live 3 miles from the tower but have a huge mountain of rock, trees and houses in between. There is no monthly charge for the use and does not interfere with my internet service using two phones. If I would have only bought a house 200 feet at the end of my subdivision, this wouldn&#039;t be an issue. But a small price to pay when the service works everywhere else.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just purchased the extender and now I have full signal and go go anywhere in my house or to the driveway and not drop the call. I live 3 miles from the tower but have a huge mountain of rock, trees and houses in between. There is no monthly charge for the use and does not interfere with my internet service using two phones. If I would have only bought a house 200 feet at the end of my subdivision, this wouldn&#8217;t be an issue. But a small price to pay when the service works everywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;You are a moron!! The fact that you don&#039;t have signal doesn&#039;t mean they need to fix their infrastructure. If you live in a brick building, a tall building above the cell towers, or even down in a valley you will not have optimal service.  If you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t have a cell phone and all of the benefits that come with it!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a moron!! The fact that you don&#8217;t have signal doesn&#8217;t mean they need to fix their infrastructure. If you live in a brick building, a tall building above the cell towers, or even down in a valley you will not have optimal service.  If you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t have a cell phone and all of the benefits that come with it!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Check that the device is NOT being blocked by a firewall.  We hooked up one at work and had a similar problem.  Our firewall guy checked the logs and noticed it was being blocked.  Once our firewall guy poked a hole through, the device connected to both Verizon Wireless and the GPS.  In fact, we ended up NOT having to use the external antenna and placed the device near a window.  The ports are in this document:  http://wirelesssupport.verizon.com/faqs/Equipment/network_extender.html?t=4#item59&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check that the device is NOT being blocked by a firewall.  We hooked up one at work and had a similar problem.  Our firewall guy checked the logs and noticed it was being blocked.  Once our firewall guy poked a hole through, the device connected to both Verizon Wireless and the GPS.  In fact, we ended up NOT having to use the external antenna and placed the device near a window.  The ports are in this document:  <a href="http://wirelesssupport.verizon.com/faqs/Equipment/network_extender.html?t=4#item59" rel="nofollow">http://wirelesssupport.verizon.com/faqs/Equipment/network_extender.html?t=4#item59</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;ACC20 discount code works, just tried it&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACC20 discount code works, just tried it</p>
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		<title>By: Analyst: Femtocells Aren&#8217;t Dead Yet!</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2009/01/19/verizon-wireless-network-extender-femtocell-is-a-ripoff/#comment-158306</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Analyst: Femtocells Aren&#8217;t Dead Yet!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] terribly jazzed about paying too make life easier for carriers, especially given some of the limitations on what the femto actually offers. The dark secret here may be that carriers are going to have to improve their networks in a way [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] terribly jazzed about paying too make life easier for carriers, especially given some of the limitations on what the femto actually offers. The dark secret here may be that carriers are going to have to improve their networks in a way [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jasper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katie,

Just a postscript to my previous post:  You should NOT have to pay a $35 restocking fee according to Verizon&#039;s stated policy:

http://verizonwireless.com/returnpolicy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie,</p>
<p>Just a postscript to my previous post:  You should NOT have to pay a $35 restocking fee according to Verizon&#8217;s stated policy:</p>
<p><a href="http://verizonwireless.com/returnpolicy" rel="nofollow">http://verizonwireless.com/returnpolicy</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jasper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katie,

It sounds like you may have a defective unit.  How far out in the country you are has no effect whatever on GPS signals.  In fact, there should be fewer obstructions to get in the way than if you were in a populated area.  You should at least try exchanging it for another unit before chucking the whole thing.

As I stated earlier, you can get a 20% discount on all accessories, including the Network Extender by entering promotional code ACC20 on www.verizonwireless.com.  I know it works, because that&#039;s the way I bought mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie,</p>
<p>It sounds like you may have a defective unit.  How far out in the country you are has no effect whatever on GPS signals.  In fact, there should be fewer obstructions to get in the way than if you were in a populated area.  You should at least try exchanging it for another unit before chucking the whole thing.</p>
<p>As I stated earlier, you can get a 20% discount on all accessories, including the Network Extender by entering promotional code ACC20 on <a href="http://www.verizonwireless.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.verizonwireless.com</a>.  I know it works, because that&#8217;s the way I bought mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well you&#039;re all pretty lucky.  I can&#039;t even get a GPS signal. I am going on hour # 4 now moving it in every window in the house for up to an hour.  Currently it&#039;s taped to a skylight.  We&#039;ll see if that works.   I am seriously not that far out in the country.  40 miles north of Detroit.  It&#039;s ridiculous!  Plus they wouldn&#039;t give me my 25% corporate discount that I get on accessories even though it&#039;s considered an accessory.  What&#039;s up with that Verizon?  I have to pay for their lack of signal strength and if the extender doesn&#039;t work I have to pay an additional 35$ restocking charge to return it.  ARRGHHH!  Very frustrated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you&#8217;re all pretty lucky.  I can&#8217;t even get a GPS signal. I am going on hour # 4 now moving it in every window in the house for up to an hour.  Currently it&#8217;s taped to a skylight.  We&#8217;ll see if that works.   I am seriously not that far out in the country.  40 miles north of Detroit.  It&#8217;s ridiculous!  Plus they wouldn&#8217;t give me my 25% corporate discount that I get on accessories even though it&#8217;s considered an accessory.  What&#8217;s up with that Verizon?  I have to pay for their lack of signal strength and if the extender doesn&#8217;t work I have to pay an additional 35$ restocking charge to return it.  ARRGHHH!  Very frustrated.</p>
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