Comments on: With Netbooks, Intel Playing a Dangerous Game http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:44:08 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: As Devices Converge, Chip Vendors Girding For a Fight — GigaOM Pro http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-947487 As Devices Converge, Chip Vendors Girding For a Fight — GigaOM Pro Thu, 28 May 2009 10:44:47 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-947487 <p>[...] PCs, since mobile devices are becoming more competitive with desktops. As these devices go mobile, Intel has a chance to move downstream into less-powerful processors and chipmakers using the ARM architecture may be able to move [...]</p> [...] PCs, since mobile devices are becoming more competitive with desktops. As these devices go mobile, Intel has a chance to move downstream into less-powerful processors and chipmakers using the ARM architecture may be able to move [...]

]]> By: 1 in 5 Choosing Netbooks Over Notebooks: Intel http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-947184 1 in 5 Choosing Netbooks Over Notebooks: Intel Wed, 27 May 2009 14:57:17 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-947184 <p>[...] and Italy. Morales also admitted that Intel’s Atom processor, which is used in netbooks, is cannibalizing sales of its cheaper Celeron processors, which are used in low-end notebooks. Though Intel has long maintained that the Atom chips, while cheaper, also have a higher profit [...]</p> [...] and Italy. Morales also admitted that Intel’s Atom processor, which is used in netbooks, is cannibalizing sales of its cheaper Celeron processors, which are used in low-end notebooks. Though Intel has long maintained that the Atom chips, while cheaper, also have a higher profit [...]

]]> By: Can 3D Keep Intel on Top? | News Portal | Lastest News Articles http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-943979 Can 3D Keep Intel on Top? | News Portal | Lastest News Articles Fri, 15 May 2009 15:09:47 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-943979 <p>[...] that the Atom chips are high-margin, it looks same they’re also cannibalizing income of more powerful Intel processors in laptops. The 45-nm Atom costs most $29, compared with $279 for the company’s Penryn Core 2 processor [...]</p> [...] that the Atom chips are high-margin, it looks same they’re also cannibalizing income of more powerful Intel processors in laptops. The 45-nm Atom costs most $29, compared with $279 for the company’s Penryn Core 2 processor [...]

]]> By: Can 3D Keep Intel on Top? http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-943919 Can 3D Keep Intel on Top? Fri, 15 May 2009 04:01:39 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-943919 <p>[...] that the Atom chips are high-margin, it looks like they’re also cannibalizing sales of more powerful Intel processors in laptops. The 45-nm Atom costs about $29, compared with $279 for the company’s Penryn Core 2 [...]</p> [...] that the Atom chips are high-margin, it looks like they’re also cannibalizing sales of more powerful Intel processors in laptops. The 45-nm Atom costs about $29, compared with $279 for the company’s Penryn Core 2 [...]

]]> By: Long View: As Devices Converge, Chip Vendors Girding For a Fight http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-937988 Long View: As Devices Converge, Chip Vendors Girding For a Fight Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:19:16 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-937988 <p>[...] PCs, since mobile devices are becoming more competitive with desktops. As these devices go mobile, Intel has a chance to move downstream into less-powerful processors and chipmakers using the ARM architecture may be able to move [...]</p> [...] PCs, since mobile devices are becoming more competitive with desktops. As these devices go mobile, Intel has a chance to move downstream into less-powerful processors and chipmakers using the ARM architecture may be able to move [...]

]]> By: jkOnTheRun » Blog Archive Netbooks Hurting Notebooks; Will They Also Kill the MID Market? « http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-923426 jkOnTheRun » Blog Archive Netbooks Hurting Notebooks; Will They Also Kill the MID Market? « Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:22:14 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-923426 <p>[...] interesting here is how Intel is indirectly making their own problem worse. They’ve experienced a decline in revenues as devices with lower-cost Atom processors are [...]</p> [...] interesting here is how Intel is indirectly making their own problem worse. They’ve experienced a decline in revenues as devices with lower-cost Atom processors are [...]

]]> By: Netbook Is Nothing But a Cheap PC http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-923335 Netbook Is Nothing But a Cheap PC Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:49:49 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-923335 <p>[...] because of lower-priced netbooks that used the cheaper (and older) Windows XP operating systems. As I have noted previously, Intel isn’t going to be able to escape this price-squeeze and [...]</p> [...] because of lower-priced netbooks that used the cheaper (and older) Windows XP operating systems. As I have noted previously, Intel isn’t going to be able to escape this price-squeeze and [...]

]]> By: Mobile Computing Is Killing the Desktop PC http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-922790 Mobile Computing Is Killing the Desktop PC Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:52:03 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-922790 <p>[...] insecurity has consumers not only questioning the need for any new computer, but gravitating toward less expensive options, such as netbooks. Analysts are closely watching to see how sales of Intel’s Atom chip for netbooks affects its [...]</p> [...] insecurity has consumers not only questioning the need for any new computer, but gravitating toward less expensive options, such as netbooks. Analysts are closely watching to see how sales of Intel’s Atom chip for netbooks affects its [...]

]]> By: Low Prices, Convergence Devices Dominate CES 2009 http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-921291 Low Prices, Convergence Devices Dominate CES 2009 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:31:05 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-921291 <p>[...] also wouldn’t have been as huge as they are at CES, if they weren’t cheap. “Business netbooks” sounded like an impossible product category a few [...]</p> [...] also wouldn’t have been as huge as they are at CES, if they weren’t cheap. “Business netbooks” sounded like an impossible product category a few [...]

]]> By: Mažieji nešiojamieji kelia nerimą Intel : nežinau.lt http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-921127 Mažieji nešiojamieji kelia nerimą Intel : nežinau.lt Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:19:43 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-921127 <p>[...] rašo, kad masinis mažųjų nešiojamųjų kompiuterių paplitimas verčia Intel susirūpinti jų daroma „sk.... Neguodžia ir tai, kad dauguma netbookų naudoja Intel Atom procesorius. Šie procesoriai yra [...]</p> [...] rašo, kad masinis mažųjų nešiojamųjų kompiuterių paplitimas verčia Intel susirūpinti jų daroma „sk…. Neguodžia ir tai, kad dauguma netbookų naudoja Intel Atom procesorius. Šie procesoriai yra [...]

]]> By: Krewell http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-920956 Krewell Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:20:43 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-920956 <p>Stacey, Officially Intel says they won't. As for the reality - we'll have to see.</p> <p>The irony of it all is just as Intel is promoting quad-core processors to mainstream users, this very little, single-core (but dual-treaded) processor has become the rising star. It's a real quandary for Intel.</p> <p>If I can use a car analogy, car manufacturers would like you to buy their big SUVs and luxury cars, but sometimes all you need is a Vespa to move you around.</p> Stacey, Officially Intel says they won’t. As for the reality – we’ll have to see.

The irony of it all is just as Intel is promoting quad-core processors to mainstream users, this very little, single-core (but dual-treaded) processor has become the rising star. It’s a real quandary for Intel.

If I can use a car analogy, car manufacturers would like you to buy their big SUVs and luxury cars, but sometimes all you need is a Vespa to move you around.

]]> By: Stacey Higginbotham http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-920949 Stacey Higginbotham Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:56:58 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-920949 <p>Krewell, Nvidia's ION concept is super sweet. Do you think Intel can or will try to limit the number of chips for use in the ION platform? My gut says they'll try.</p> Krewell, Nvidia’s ION concept is super sweet. Do you think Intel can or will try to limit the number of chips for use in the ION platform? My gut says they’ll try.

]]> By: krewell http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-920946 krewell Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:47:03 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-920946 <p>Also look at the NVIDIA Ion concept: Atom processor plus a modern graphics chipset (MCP79). ASUS has its S1xx lineup, the new $900 VAIO P from Sony, and the new OQO all use Atom processors, blurring the line between the old expensive ultraportables and new supposed netbooks. Intel wanted Atom to be a Netbook only solution, but its shown that it can scale up more than Intel may have wanted it to.</p> <p>A correction you need to make: Mika said in "her" report...</p> Also look at the NVIDIA Ion concept: Atom processor plus a modern graphics chipset (MCP79). ASUS has its S1xx lineup, the new $900 VAIO P from Sony, and the new OQO all use Atom processors, blurring the line between the old expensive ultraportables and new supposed netbooks. Intel wanted Atom to be a Netbook only solution, but its shown that it can scale up more than Intel may have wanted it to.

A correction you need to make: Mika said in “her” report…

]]> By: Bhavishya Kanjhan http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-920926 Bhavishya Kanjhan Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:13:04 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-920926 <p>I see the point about subbranding though however some sort of association with the parent brand is still necessary because Brand Perception plays an important role. I was in Dubai recently and I saw a lot of Aspire ones and Mini 2133s but not any MSI Winds even though it's a better machine. The problem mostly lies in HP and Acer being bigger brands. So if subbranding is to be undertaken you would be looking at tags like "By Acer" in some part of the promo campaign.</p> <p>As for the cannibalization of notebook markets. I couldn't agree more. Netbooks are creeping into notebook markets with the introduction of 12" and 13.4" devices. The once distinct line is now being increasingly blurred. Question remains to what extent can netbooks and notebooks overlap. I've written a blogpost at www.kanjhan.com about this very topic.</p> I see the point about subbranding though however some sort of association with the parent brand is still necessary because Brand Perception plays an important role. I was in Dubai recently and I saw a lot of Aspire ones and Mini 2133s but not any MSI Winds even though it’s a better machine. The problem mostly lies in HP and Acer being bigger brands. So if subbranding is to be undertaken you would be looking at tags like “By Acer” in some part of the promo campaign.

As for the cannibalization of notebook markets. I couldn’t agree more. Netbooks are creeping into notebook markets with the introduction of 12″ and 13.4″ devices. The once distinct line is now being increasingly blurred. Question remains to what extent can netbooks and notebooks overlap. I’ve written a blogpost at http://www.kanjhan.com about this very topic.

]]> By: Q dub http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-920909 Q dub Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:26:49 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-920909 <p>Yes I think netbook makers (not Intel) have opened a whole new can of worms with cannibalization. I bet Intel had hoped that Atom would be put on a bunch of sexy-MIDs that are far less likely to replace a computer, not a bunch of bargain priced and barely usable notebooks.</p> Yes I think netbook makers (not Intel) have opened a whole new can of worms with cannibalization. I bet Intel had hoped that Atom would be put on a bunch of sexy-MIDs that are far less likely to replace a computer, not a bunch of bargain priced and barely usable notebooks.

]]> By: Ben Barren - Confessions of a Mad Man » netbooks, netbooks, netbooks http://gigaom.com/2009/01/07/for-intel-netbooks-bring-fear-loathing-in-las-vegas/#comment-920892 Ben Barren - Confessions of a Mad Man » netbooks, netbooks, netbooks Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:06:54 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34826#comment-920892 <p>[...] my google reader of 3k feeds, and all I can see is “Netbooks”. Om has a nice CES wrapup of the phenomenon : “These little machines have caught the imagination of many and sold millions of units this [...]</p> [...] my google reader of 3k feeds, and all I can see is “Netbooks”. Om has a nice CES wrapup of the phenomenon : “These little machines have caught the imagination of many and sold millions of units this [...]

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