Comments on: Netbooks and the Death of x86 Computing http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:44:08 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: mario n http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-977627 mario n Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:08:42 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-977627 <p>"an ARM-based chip that could lead to a $200 Linux-based netbook" how much cost atom and their motherboard? i bet is less than $100 so if the only difference between a netbook and a smartbook is the processor and motherboard, cause the screen, memory, hard disk, etc will be the same how a smartbook could cost $100 less if atom platform cost less than that and ARM platform certainly wont be free.</p> “an ARM-based chip that could lead to a $200 Linux-based netbook” how much cost atom and their motherboard? i bet is less than $100 so if the only difference between a netbook and a smartbook is the processor and motherboard, cause the screen, memory, hard disk, etc will be the same how a smartbook could cost $100 less if atom platform cost less than that and ARM platform certainly wont be free.

]]> By: riot http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-975469 riot Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:50:33 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-975469 <p>--quote- Linux-based Netbooks (and that would include ARM-based netbooks) really need the equivalent of an iTunes application store to succeed with mainstream consumers. -end quote-</p> <p>-begin sarcasm- Yeah if only Linux Operating systems had some kind of program built into them to help you manage installing and uninstalling software. It could even update the software for you. Some kind of of um . . . package manager. Oh wait they do.</p> <p>Maybe we could just rename it the software store. You know just to make windows and mac people feel at home. Go ahead & charge them money for the software. Alright I'm making my own distro. I'm calling it "Gimmie O$" -end sarcasm-</p> –quote- Linux-based Netbooks (and that would include ARM-based netbooks) really need the equivalent of an iTunes application store to succeed with mainstream consumers. -end quote-

-begin sarcasm- Yeah if only Linux Operating systems had some kind of program built into them to help you manage installing and uninstalling software. It could even update the software for you. Some kind of of um . . . package manager. Oh wait they do.

Maybe we could just rename it the software store. You know just to make windows and mac people feel at home. Go ahead & charge them money for the software. Alright I’m making my own distro. I’m calling it “Gimmie O$” -end sarcasm-

]]> By: ARM Winning the Fight to Be the Brains Inside the Digital Home http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-957556 ARM Winning the Fight to Be the Brains Inside the Digital Home Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:20:04 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-957556 <p>[...] As for the companies making the most money selling chips inside the home, Broadcom was estimated as the market leader, with IBM, NXP, Samsung and Toshiba rounding out the rest of the top five, according to Semicast. Those vendors accounted for over 50 percent of processor revenues in the home market. Given that the number of connected devices inside the home that will require more and more processing power is in the billions, the opportunity here is much greater than the two-way battle between ARM and Intel’s low-power x86 Atom chips that’s occurring in netbooks. [...]</p> [...] As for the companies making the most money selling chips inside the home, Broadcom was estimated as the market leader, with IBM, NXP, Samsung and Toshiba rounding out the rest of the top five, according to Semicast. Those vendors accounted for over 50 percent of processor revenues in the home market. Given that the number of connected devices inside the home that will require more and more processing power is in the billions, the opportunity here is much greater than the two-way battle between ARM and Intel’s low-power x86 Atom chips that’s occurring in netbooks. [...]

]]> By: Jeff http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-951925 Jeff Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:35:10 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-951925 <p>Well, if netbooks don't make the web open up, cell phones surely will. I will party hard when I no long have to download the security nightmare of adobe flash to every OS I install so people can visit Youtube....</p> Well, if netbooks don’t make the web open up, cell phones surely will. I will party hard when I no long have to download the security nightmare of adobe flash to every OS I install so people can visit Youtube….

]]> By: SiCortex Co-Founder on Intel and Shutting Down http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-948131 SiCortex Co-Founder on Intel and Shutting Down Fri, 29 May 2009 19:11:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-948131 <p>[...] chip for cell phones. What he didn’t point out was how that argument also involves a pretty narrow definition of computing. Since I write about netbooks with ARM-based chips, using DSPs to build things like a low-power [...]</p> [...] chip for cell phones. What he didn’t point out was how that argument also involves a pretty narrow definition of computing. Since I write about netbooks with ARM-based chips, using DSPs to build things like a low-power [...]

]]> By: As Devices Converge, Chip Vendors Girding For a Fight — GigaOM Pro http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-947485 As Devices Converge, Chip Vendors Girding For a Fight — GigaOM Pro Thu, 28 May 2009 10:44:32 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-947485 <p>[...] battle for the brains of these highly portable devices is a battle between these vendors, but it’s also a battle of different chip architectures: [...]</p> [...] battle for the brains of these highly portable devices is a battle between these vendors, but it’s also a battle of different chip architectures: [...]

]]> By: Long View: As Devices Converge, Chip Vendors Girding For a Fight http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-937985 Long View: As Devices Converge, Chip Vendors Girding For a Fight Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:19:10 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-937985 <p>[...] battle for the brains of these highly portable devices is a battle between these vendors, but it’s also a battle of different chip architectures: [...]</p> [...] battle for the brains of these highly portable devices is a battle between these vendors, but it’s also a battle of different chip architectures: [...]

]]> By: Can Intel Thrive in a Post x86 World? http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-931127 Can Intel Thrive in a Post x86 World? Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:06:58 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-931127 <p>[...] makers and users emphasize mobility and incredible graphics. I’ve argued that these trends signal the end of x86 computing, but what I’ve ignored is Intel’s drive to bring its brand of x86 computing to these [...]</p> [...] makers and users emphasize mobility and incredible graphics. I’ve argued that these trends signal the end of x86 computing, but what I’ve ignored is Intel’s drive to bring its brand of x86 computing to these [...]

]]> By: TI Wants to Use DSPs for Low-power Computing http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-930061 TI Wants to Use DSPs for Low-power Computing Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:30:00 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-930061 <p>[...] processor architecture if the job is big enough to merit the efforts on the software side. So, heterogeneous computing may become more mainstream. [...]</p> [...] processor architecture if the job is big enough to merit the efforts on the software side. So, heterogeneous computing may become more mainstream. [...]

]]> By: The End of x86 Domination: AMD Is Cool With That http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-928180 The End of x86 Domination: AMD Is Cool With That Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:29:42 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-928180 <p>[...] split is a reaction to how people use their computers. I think it signals the end of the hegemony of the x86 architecture and the end of clock speed as a significant indicator of what a device can do. But I was surprised [...]</p> [...] split is a reaction to how people use their computers. I think it signals the end of the hegemony of the x86 architecture and the end of clock speed as a significant indicator of what a device can do. But I was surprised [...]

]]> By: Intel/Nvidia Catfight Is About More Than IP | The Click http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-927917 Intel/Nvidia Catfight Is About More Than IP | The Click Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:33:16 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-927917 <p>[...] been one to take its intellectual property or its near monopoly in x86 chips for granted — even if x86 computing is losing its ubiquity.  This looks like one way Intel is circling its wagons as PC sales drop, GPUs gain prominence, and [...]</p> [...] been one to take its intellectual property or its near monopoly in x86 chips for granted — even if x86 computing is losing its ubiquity.  This looks like one way Intel is circling its wagons as PC sales drop, GPUs gain prominence, and [...]

]]> By: gp http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-927898 gp Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:46:19 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-927898 <p>Move over Intel Longson is coming .....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson (China own MIPS based CPU)</p> Move over Intel Longson is coming …..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson (China own MIPS based CPU)

]]> By: Intel/Nvidia Catfight Is About More Than IP http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-927844 Intel/Nvidia Catfight Is About More Than IP Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:30:11 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-927844 <p>[...] been one to take its intellectual property or its near monopoly in x86 chips for granted — even if x86 computing is losing its ubiquity.  This looks like one way Intel is circling its wagons as PC sales drop, GPUs gain prominence, and [...]</p> [...] been one to take its intellectual property or its near monopoly in x86 chips for granted — even if x86 computing is losing its ubiquity.  This looks like one way Intel is circling its wagons as PC sales drop, GPUs gain prominence, and [...]

]]> By: With ION, Nvidia Covers the Mobile Market http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-923806 With ION, Nvidia Covers the Mobile Market Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:56:10 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-923806 <p>[...] to see it in person, when designs featuring ION are due to appear. With ION, Nvidia is playing both sides of the mobile computing split. It has a platform for Intel’s x86 architecture in ION, and something for the ARM crowd with [...]</p> [...] to see it in person, when designs featuring ION are due to appear. With ION, Nvidia is playing both sides of the mobile computing split. It has a platform for Intel’s x86 architecture in ION, and something for the ARM crowd with [...]

]]> By: Netbook Is Nothing But a Cheap PC http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-923332 Netbook Is Nothing But a Cheap PC Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:49:03 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-923332 <p>[...] “The $399 PC is here to stay and it will get better and better,” predicted Huang. And that is not good news for Intel, which has gotten rich beyond belief because they have sold expensive CPUs with margins that could be envy of certain folks in Bogota. (Related Post: Netbooks & the Death of X86 Computing.) [...]</p> [...] “The $399 PC is here to stay and it will get better and better,” predicted Huang. And that is not good news for Intel, which has gotten rich beyond belief because they have sold expensive CPUs with margins that could be envy of certain folks in Bogota. (Related Post: Netbooks & the Death of X86 Computing.) [...]

]]> By: ChipGrayBeard http://gigaom.com/2009/01/06/netbooks-and-the-death-of-x86-computing/#comment-920773 ChipGrayBeard Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:41:24 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=34592#comment-920773 <p>'x86' computing hasn't really meant anything for over a decade, maybe more. You are referring to CISC which all 'x86' cpu's do now is just re-translate those to RISC. No one but compiler writers, and advanced game developers and the cpu engr's need to care.</p> <p>What is going to be more interesting is the upcoming rise of the GPU in all spaces desktop, mobile, and netbook.</p> <p>http://arstechnica.com/journals/hardware.ars/2008/12/29/nvidia-unveils-ion-platform-bundling-atom-cpu-with-9400-gpu</p> <p>Why it matters is that these processors were brought with a whole different methodology and problem set so they have way different performance characteristics that have a lot applications.</p> ‘x86′ computing hasn’t really meant anything for over a decade, maybe more. You are referring to CISC which all ‘x86′ cpu’s do now is just re-translate those to RISC. No one but compiler writers, and advanced game developers and the cpu engr’s need to care.

What is going to be more interesting is the upcoming rise of the GPU in all spaces desktop, mobile, and netbook.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/hardware.ars/2008/12/29/nvidia-unveils-ion-platform-bundling-atom-cpu-with-9400-gpu

Why it matters is that these processors were brought with a whole different methodology and problem set so they have way different performance characteristics that have a lot applications.

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