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		<title>By: Is Cheap Wireless Broadband For Real This Time? &#8211; GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/11/m2z-needs-fcc-win-and-5-billion/#comment-155083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is Cheap Wireless Broadband For Real This Time? &#8211; GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] for poor people. If all this sounds familiar to you, maybe you recall the efforts of M2Z Networks, a Kleiner Perkins backed venture that tried to offer filtered, low-cost broadband using [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for poor people. If all this sounds familiar to you, maybe you recall the efforts of M2Z Networks, a Kleiner Perkins backed venture that tried to offer filtered, low-cost broadband using [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adding Porn Won&#8217;t Make AWS-3 Plan Any Better</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/11/m2z-needs-fcc-win-and-5-billion/#comment-155082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adding Porn Won&#8217;t Make AWS-3 Plan Any Better]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Stacey Higginbotham  &#124; Tuesday, December 30, 2008 &#124; 11:36 AM PT &#124; 0 comments    FCC chairman Kevin Martin said in a conference call today that he&#8217;s dropped the porn-free requirement from his plan to auction off AWS-3 spectrum in order to create a free wireless broadband network. This last-minute effort to get universal wireless broadband passed on his watch is heroic, but I&#8217;m still not sold on the use of this spectrum for slow, free wireless broadband. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stacey Higginbotham  | Tuesday, December 30, 2008 | 11:36 AM PT | 0 comments    FCC chairman Kevin Martin said in a conference call today that he&#8217;s dropped the porn-free requirement from his plan to auction off AWS-3 spectrum in order to create a free wireless broadband network. This last-minute effort to get universal wireless broadband passed on his watch is heroic, but I&#8217;m still not sold on the use of this spectrum for slow, free wireless broadband. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Satellite Player Skyterra Ready to Try Again</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/11/m2z-needs-fcc-win-and-5-billion/#comment-155081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Satellite Player Skyterra Ready to Try Again]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] have speeds of 200 kbps or 300 kbps downlink. With WiMAX, white spaces networks and possibly even alternative wireless networks emerging in the next two years, then satellite looks to be an expensive alternative to fill those [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have speeds of 200 kbps or 300 kbps downlink. With WiMAX, white spaces networks and possibly even alternative wireless networks emerging in the next two years, then satellite looks to be an expensive alternative to fill those [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/11/m2z-needs-fcc-win-and-5-billion/#comment-155080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Kopelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nationwide network that is at least ostensibly competitive with what the current providers will have means at least 20,000 macro base-stations. Average deployment cost will be about $300k. 20,000 X $300k = $6B. So, I&#039;d say Muleta is still overly optimistic, but at least he&#039;s approaching the realm of plausibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nationwide network that is at least ostensibly competitive with what the current providers will have means at least 20,000 macro base-stations. Average deployment cost will be about $300k. 20,000 X $300k = $6B. So, I&#8217;d say Muleta is still overly optimistic, but at least he&#8217;s approaching the realm of plausibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey Higginbotham</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacey Higginbotham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shai, I also wonder about people buying a $200 device (but if enough do, it will get cheaper), and I&#039;m giving a big ewwwww for the Inq headline :)

Tom it is slow, but if enough people use it then web developers may have little choice but to pander to it. However, the device pickup will be an issue. With such a reverse incentive it&#039;s possible that $200 devices are part of the plan, thus limiting the number of people on the network. Gonna take off the tin foil hat now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shai, I also wonder about people buying a $200 device (but if enough do, it will get cheaper), and I&#8217;m giving a big ewwwww for the Inq headline :)</p>
<p>Tom it is slow, but if enough people use it then web developers may have little choice but to pander to it. However, the device pickup will be an issue. With such a reverse incentive it&#8217;s possible that $200 devices are part of the plan, thus limiting the number of people on the network. Gonna take off the tin foil hat now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Evslin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/11/m2z-needs-fcc-win-and-5-billion/#comment-155078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Evslin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Shai says, I&#039;m against this. As others have stated,although people might use a free service, it&#039;s much more doubtful that they&#039;ll buy a $200 device to use it. 768k won&#039;t be a usable option just a couple of years from now just as dialup doesn&#039;t work for surfing today even though it used to. websites are made for the top three-quarters of the market. Tomorrow&#039;s equivalents of flash and AJAX won&#039;t work on connections which are this slow.

What&#039;s worse it that the provider is incented to have the free slow-speed network fail. The fine print says they only have to devote up to a quarter of the bandwidth to the free network IF there is demand which requires this much resource. If noone or almost noone uses the free network, the provider (M2Z for example) gets the spectrum free to use for their commercial service.

This is a perverse incentive to say the least. http://blog.tomevslin.com/2008/12/free-slow-censo.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Shai says, I&#8217;m against this. As others have stated,although people might use a free service, it&#8217;s much more doubtful that they&#8217;ll buy a $200 device to use it. 768k won&#8217;t be a usable option just a couple of years from now just as dialup doesn&#8217;t work for surfing today even though it used to. websites are made for the top three-quarters of the market. Tomorrow&#8217;s equivalents of flash and AJAX won&#8217;t work on connections which are this slow.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s worse it that the provider is incented to have the free slow-speed network fail. The fine print says they only have to devote up to a quarter of the bandwidth to the free network IF there is demand which requires this much resource. If noone or almost noone uses the free network, the provider (M2Z for example) gets the spectrum free to use for their commercial service.</p>
<p>This is a perverse incentive to say the least. <a href="http://blog.tomevslin.com/2008/12/free-slow-censo.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.tomevslin.com/2008/12/free-slow-censo.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shai Berger</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/11/m2z-needs-fcc-win-and-5-billion/#comment-155077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shai Berger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom Evslin had a great post on this last week: &quot;Free, Slow, Censored Internet – A Bad Idea&quot;
http://blog.tomevslin.com/2008/12/free-slow-censo.html

His main concern, like yours, is that 768kpbs is not enough for modern internet. I disagree there: Giving any kind of always-on broadband to someone who previously had none makes a huge difference. Access to email, IM, Craigslist, Google, Facebook, Linked-In, Ebay, and government services can change the life of those on the margins of society. (So I&#039;m agreeing with John Daly somewhat.)

But I do have several other big concerns with M2Z.

1) M2Z is trying to draw the analogy to analog TV, i.e. it’s free, and family-friendly. I might accept the argument if they were pitching this as non-profit, similar to PBS, but M2Z is a business, with VC backers that want a return on their investment. The bigger flaw with that analogy is that the TV spectrum is granted to regional TV stations, rather than a single cross-country entity. A local station might go bankrupt, but the impact is minimal. M2Z wants the FCC to make a big gamble on a single company.

2) The risk is compounded because this is an unproven business model. Are people willing to buy a $200 device for unlimited wireless broadband? Maybe. But it’s far from a sure thing. Especially when their alternative - in urban areas, at least -- is low-end DSL at $15/mo.

3) Their ad supported model (as I read it last September) is sketchy: it will use “…local geo-tagging for highly relevant search results. Even if you assume that they can do a better job of local results than, say, Google, why would I use their search engine rather than my current one? Are they going to lock me in somehow? Haven’t we learned our lessons about walled gardens?

4) Finally there&#039;s the usual concerns with censorship - who decides what is decent?

I blogged about M2Z when their CEO was appearing on CNN and other news shows trying to gain public support. He was is playing the angle that their proposal was being defeated through undue influence of &quot;Big Business&quot; ISPs who don&#039;t want a free alternative. I don&#039;t really buy that angle. Overall, I&#039;m just not left with a good feeling about this.

http://www.shaiberger.com/?p=20
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BTW, the best headline on this goes to The Inquirier which referring to both the free and censored nature of the service, sums thusly: &quot;Internet without the money shot&quot; :-)
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/631/1049631/fcc-wants-porn-free-free-web-access-for-all]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Evslin had a great post on this last week: &#8220;Free, Slow, Censored Internet – A Bad Idea&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://blog.tomevslin.com/2008/12/free-slow-censo.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.tomevslin.com/2008/12/free-slow-censo.html</a></p>
<p>His main concern, like yours, is that 768kpbs is not enough for modern internet. I disagree there: Giving any kind of always-on broadband to someone who previously had none makes a huge difference. Access to email, IM, Craigslist, Google, Facebook, Linked-In, Ebay, and government services can change the life of those on the margins of society. (So I&#8217;m agreeing with John Daly somewhat.)</p>
<p>But I do have several other big concerns with M2Z.</p>
<p>1) M2Z is trying to draw the analogy to analog TV, i.e. it’s free, and family-friendly. I might accept the argument if they were pitching this as non-profit, similar to PBS, but M2Z is a business, with VC backers that want a return on their investment. The bigger flaw with that analogy is that the TV spectrum is granted to regional TV stations, rather than a single cross-country entity. A local station might go bankrupt, but the impact is minimal. M2Z wants the FCC to make a big gamble on a single company.</p>
<p>2) The risk is compounded because this is an unproven business model. Are people willing to buy a $200 device for unlimited wireless broadband? Maybe. But it’s far from a sure thing. Especially when their alternative &#8211; in urban areas, at least &#8212; is low-end DSL at $15/mo.</p>
<p>3) Their ad supported model (as I read it last September) is sketchy: it will use “…local geo-tagging for highly relevant search results. Even if you assume that they can do a better job of local results than, say, Google, why would I use their search engine rather than my current one? Are they going to lock me in somehow? Haven’t we learned our lessons about walled gardens?</p>
<p>4) Finally there&#8217;s the usual concerns with censorship &#8211; who decides what is decent?</p>
<p>I blogged about M2Z when their CEO was appearing on CNN and other news shows trying to gain public support. He was is playing the angle that their proposal was being defeated through undue influence of &#8220;Big Business&#8221; ISPs who don&#8217;t want a free alternative. I don&#8217;t really buy that angle. Overall, I&#8217;m just not left with a good feeling about this.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shaiberger.com/?p=20" rel="nofollow">http://www.shaiberger.com/?p=20</a><br />
(with video)</p>
<p>BTW, the best headline on this goes to The Inquirier which referring to both the free and censored nature of the service, sums thusly: &#8220;Internet without the money shot&#8221; :-)<br />
<a href="http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/631/1049631/fcc-wants-porn-free-free-web-access-for-all" rel="nofollow">http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/631/1049631/fcc-wants-porn-free-free-web-access-for-all</a></p>
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		<title>By: McGuire&#8217;s Law &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Business Observations: December 12, 2008 Edition</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/11/m2z-needs-fcc-win-and-5-billion/#comment-155076</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McGuire&#8217;s Law &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Business Observations: December 12, 2008 Edition]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ramesh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/11/m2z-needs-fcc-win-and-5-billion/#comment-155075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ramesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3G coming in Feb to India hoep it is cheap enough for commoners.

Ramesh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3G coming in Feb to India hoep it is cheap enough for commoners.</p>
<p>Ramesh</p>
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		<title>By: John Daly</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/11/m2z-needs-fcc-win-and-5-billion/#comment-155074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Daly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll sidestep the debate regarding the potential impact of this initiative on innovation, or whether this is the best practical use of the spectrum.

Will people use free connectivity with constraints (speed, filtering)? Probably. As a founder of Junxion (early US market leader in flexible WWAN routers) I was repeatedly surprised to find that the majority of riders of several public transit agencies (Riverside, King County/Seattle, Capital Metro/Austin, Alameda County/East SFO, etc.) as well as private/corporate transit (Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc) were understanding - indeed they were grateful - wrt no-cost WiFi access with obvious constraints. Early on these deployments used EDGE or 1xRTT/EVDO Rev 0, often shared among 15-20+ riders at a time. Ultimately, for a surprising number of Junxion public/private transit customers the trade-off between deploying what was available &quot;today&quot; at a reasonable cost to everyone trumped more sophisticated/costly alternatives.

When it&#039;s free, quality of service expectations can be malleable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll sidestep the debate regarding the potential impact of this initiative on innovation, or whether this is the best practical use of the spectrum.</p>
<p>Will people use free connectivity with constraints (speed, filtering)? Probably. As a founder of Junxion (early US market leader in flexible WWAN routers) I was repeatedly surprised to find that the majority of riders of several public transit agencies (Riverside, King County/Seattle, Capital Metro/Austin, Alameda County/East SFO, etc.) as well as private/corporate transit (Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc) were understanding &#8211; indeed they were grateful &#8211; wrt no-cost WiFi access with obvious constraints. Early on these deployments used EDGE or 1xRTT/EVDO Rev 0, often shared among 15-20+ riders at a time. Ultimately, for a surprising number of Junxion public/private transit customers the trade-off between deploying what was available &#8220;today&#8221; at a reasonable cost to everyone trumped more sophisticated/costly alternatives.</p>
<p>When it&#8217;s free, quality of service expectations can be malleable.</p>
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