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		<title>By: fat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-929194</link>
		<dc:creator>fat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The post title is misleading - this is not VoIP, it’s merely a twist on callback systems. The fact that the rest of a call is routed using VoIP is irrelevant, the end user could care less if his call was routed over smoke signals or carrier pigeons.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post title is misleading &#8211; this is not VoIP, it’s merely a twist on callback systems. The fact that the rest of a call is routed using VoIP is irrelevant, the end user could care less if his call was routed over smoke signals or carrier pigeons.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bhagwad Jal Park</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-921009</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhagwad Jal Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Alex,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, it has a mic, but we can only use it with a pair of headphones that have an inbuilt mic. We can&#039;t talk directly into the ipod touch mic.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>

<p>Yes, it has a mic, but we can only use it with a pair of headphones that have an inbuilt mic. We can&#8217;t talk directly into the ipod touch mic.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: iPhone Cellular Network Data Meter Dialed Down After Reboot? &#8212; iPhone Tricks, Tips and Hacks</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-919746</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone Cellular Network Data Meter Dialed Down After Reboot? &#8212; iPhone Tricks, Tips and Hacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] VoIP on the iPhone Without Wi-Fi [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: The World is Flat&#8211;And Mobile</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-918001</link>
		<dc:creator>The World is Flat&#8211;And Mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] though. Globalization has been followed by programs offering cheap international minutes using various VoIP services,  Wi-Fi to make calls and other options, also contribute to these trends. This means the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] though. Globalization has been followed by programs offering cheap international minutes using various VoIP services,  Wi-Fi to make calls and other options, also contribute to these trends. This means the [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mac News Update - MacPro, iMac, iPhone, Macbook, and Macbook Pro News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple’s Relationship to VoIP Gets Murkier</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-917915</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac News Update - MacPro, iMac, iPhone, Macbook, and Macbook Pro News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple’s Relationship to VoIP Gets Murkier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Life Digital &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Skype: Coming to a Cell Phone Near You</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-917745</link>
		<dc:creator>Life Digital &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Skype: Coming to a Cell Phone Near You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] morning, Truphone also made an announcement about its ability to use the cellular network to make low-cost VoIP-enabled calls from and to the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-917667</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Quick question: does the iPod touch have a mic that allows for a phone conversation to happen? I have fring installed and it allows me to input my sip server settings. But can i use it to make full duplex calls? Can someone confirm if that ipod touch (2nd generation) has a mic?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick question: does the iPod touch have a mic that allows for a phone conversation to happen? I have fring installed and it allows me to input my sip server settings. But can i use it to make full duplex calls? Can someone confirm if that ipod touch (2nd generation) has a mic?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-917630</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This will not work for most people.  If you bring your North American phone overseas, say Taiwan, your phone company will charge you an arm and a leg for dialing back home AND local phone number.  Rogers in Canada charge you $3 a minutes even if you make a local call in Taiwan using your phone.  So how in the world you are going to save money with this service?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The only way to save money with any phone is to get a local phone number for your phone with a prepaid SIM card, THEN using their service.  But you will still be using the minutes on your SIM.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will not work for most people.  If you bring your North American phone overseas, say Taiwan, your phone company will charge you an arm and a leg for dialing back home AND local phone number.  Rogers in Canada charge you $3 a minutes even if you make a local call in Taiwan using your phone.  So how in the world you are going to save money with this service?</p>

<p>The only way to save money with any phone is to get a local phone number for your phone with a prepaid SIM card, THEN using their service.  But you will still be using the minutes on your SIM.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Skype: Coming to a Cell Phone Near You</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-917598</link>
		<dc:creator>Skype: Coming to a Cell Phone Near You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] morning, Truphone also made an announcement about its ability to use the cellular network to make low-cost VoIP-enabled calls from and to the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Mike Puchol</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-917473</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Puchol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The post title is misleading - this is not VoIP, it&#039;s merely a twist on callback systems. The fact that the rest of a call is routed using VoIP is irrelevant, the end user could care less if his call was routed over smoke signals or carrier pigeons.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post title is misleading &#8211; this is not VoIP, it&#8217;s merely a twist on callback systems. The fact that the rest of a call is routed using VoIP is irrelevant, the end user could care less if his call was routed over smoke signals or carrier pigeons.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: iPhone India, India iphone, iphone news and iphone prices</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-917463</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone India, India iphone, iphone news and iphone prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MemoryMiner Tries to Make Your iLife More Meaningful (- InftekHosting.Com) &#124; InfTek Hosting - Hosted Kerio MailServer, Push Email for iPhone, Microsoft Exchange Alternative</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-917456</link>
		<dc:creator>MemoryMiner Tries to Make Your iLife More Meaningful (- InftekHosting.Com) &#124; InfTek Hosting - Hosted Kerio MailServer, Push Email for iPhone, Microsoft Exchange Alternative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steal Ben Stein’s Mansion (- InftekHosting.Com) &#124; InfTek Hosting - Hosted Kerio MailServer, Push Email for iPhone, Microsoft Exchange Alternative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steal Ben Stein’s Mansion (- InftekHosting.Com) &#124; InfTek Hosting - Hosted Kerio MailServer, Push Email for iPhone, Microsoft Exchange Alternative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Apple&#8217;s Relationship to VoIP Gets Murkier &#124; Cult of Mac</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-917412</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple&#8217;s Relationship to VoIP Gets Murkier &#124; Cult of Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rupert Goldie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-917410</link>
		<dc:creator>Rupert Goldie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The headline is rather misleading as the truphone application is not making a VoIP call, it&#039;s a calling card service where the hassle of entering account numbers and PINs has been hidden by the application. The fact that the call is terminated by VoIP is fairly irrelevant - most carriers these days will be using VoIP as part of their call transport.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The blog post by truphone linked above says, &quot;Truphone Anywhere works by connecting to a local Truphone server, which then connects the long-distance part of the call over the internet. The local connection to Truphone is, typically, free because it uses bundled minutes from the customer’s usual cellular service provider.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rupert&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The headline is rather misleading as the truphone application is not making a VoIP call, it&#8217;s a calling card service where the hassle of entering account numbers and PINs has been hidden by the application. The fact that the call is terminated by VoIP is fairly irrelevant &#8211; most carriers these days will be using VoIP as part of their call transport.</p>

<p>The blog post by truphone linked above says, &#8220;Truphone Anywhere works by connecting to a local Truphone server, which then connects the long-distance part of the call over the internet. The local connection to Truphone is, typically, free because it uses bundled minutes from the customer’s usual cellular service provider.&#8221;</p>

<p>Rupert</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-917406</link>
		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;AT&amp;T minutes are kind of beside the point, aren&#039;t they? I mean, if you don&#039;t have a calling plan that&#039;s rolling minutes over every month anyway, you&#039;re probably already paying too much for your service. Unlimited local calling is $99 a month.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&amp;T minutes are kind of beside the point, aren&#8217;t they? I mean, if you don&#8217;t have a calling plan that&#8217;s rolling minutes over every month anyway, you&#8217;re probably already paying too much for your service. Unlimited local calling is $99 a month.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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