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		<title>By: fat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The post title is misleading - this is not VoIP, it’s merely a twist on callback systems. The fact that the rest of a call is routed using VoIP is irrelevant, the end user could care less if his call was routed over smoke signals or carrier pigeons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post title is misleading &#8211; this is not VoIP, it’s merely a twist on callback systems. The fact that the rest of a call is routed using VoIP is irrelevant, the end user could care less if his call was routed over smoke signals or carrier pigeons.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhagwad Jal Park</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154862</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bhagwad Jal Park]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alex,

Yes, it has a mic, but we can only use it with a pair of headphones that have an inbuilt mic. We can&#039;t talk directly into the ipod touch mic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>Yes, it has a mic, but we can only use it with a pair of headphones that have an inbuilt mic. We can&#8217;t talk directly into the ipod touch mic.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone Cellular Network Data Meter Dialed Down After Reboot? &#8212; iPhone Tricks, Tips and Hacks</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iPhone Cellular Network Data Meter Dialed Down After Reboot? &#8212; iPhone Tricks, Tips and Hacks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The World is Flat&#8211;And Mobile</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The World is Flat&#8211;And Mobile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] though. Globalization has been followed by programs offering cheap international minutes using various VoIP services,  Wi-Fi to make calls and other options, also contribute to these trends. This means the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] though. Globalization has been followed by programs offering cheap international minutes using various VoIP services,  Wi-Fi to make calls and other options, also contribute to these trends. This means the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mac News Update - MacPro, iMac, iPhone, Macbook, and Macbook Pro News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple’s Relationship to VoIP Gets Murkier</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac News Update - MacPro, iMac, iPhone, Macbook, and Macbook Pro News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple’s Relationship to VoIP Gets Murkier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Life Digital &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Skype: Coming to a Cell Phone Near You</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154858</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Life Digital &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Skype: Coming to a Cell Phone Near You]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] morning, Truphone also made an announcement about its ability to use the cellular network to make low-cost VoIP-enabled calls from and to the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154857</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quick question: does the iPod touch have a mic that allows for a phone conversation to happen? I have fring installed and it allows me to input my sip server settings. But can i use it to make full duplex calls? Can someone confirm if that ipod touch (2nd generation) has a mic?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick question: does the iPod touch have a mic that allows for a phone conversation to happen? I have fring installed and it allows me to input my sip server settings. But can i use it to make full duplex calls? Can someone confirm if that ipod touch (2nd generation) has a mic?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154856</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This will not work for most people.  If you bring your North American phone overseas, say Taiwan, your phone company will charge you an arm and a leg for dialing back home AND local phone number.  Rogers in Canada charge you $3 a minutes even if you make a local call in Taiwan using your phone.  So how in the world you are going to save money with this service?

The only way to save money with any phone is to get a local phone number for your phone with a prepaid SIM card, THEN using their service.  But you will still be using the minutes on your SIM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will not work for most people.  If you bring your North American phone overseas, say Taiwan, your phone company will charge you an arm and a leg for dialing back home AND local phone number.  Rogers in Canada charge you $3 a minutes even if you make a local call in Taiwan using your phone.  So how in the world you are going to save money with this service?</p>
<p>The only way to save money with any phone is to get a local phone number for your phone with a prepaid SIM card, THEN using their service.  But you will still be using the minutes on your SIM.</p>
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		<title>By: Skype: Coming to a Cell Phone Near You</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154855</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skype: Coming to a Cell Phone Near You]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] morning, Truphone also made an announcement about its ability to use the cellular network to make low-cost VoIP-enabled calls from and to the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Mike Puchol</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154854</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Puchol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The post title is misleading - this is not VoIP, it&#039;s merely a twist on callback systems. The fact that the rest of a call is routed using VoIP is irrelevant, the end user could care less if his call was routed over smoke signals or carrier pigeons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post title is misleading &#8211; this is not VoIP, it&#8217;s merely a twist on callback systems. The fact that the rest of a call is routed using VoIP is irrelevant, the end user could care less if his call was routed over smoke signals or carrier pigeons.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone India, India iphone, iphone news and iphone prices</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iPhone India, India iphone, iphone news and iphone prices]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MemoryMiner Tries to Make Your iLife More Meaningful (- InftekHosting.Com) &#124; InfTek Hosting - Hosted Kerio MailServer, Push Email for iPhone, Microsoft Exchange Alternative</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154852</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steal Ben Stein’s Mansion (- InftekHosting.Com) &#124; InfTek Hosting - Hosted Kerio MailServer, Push Email for iPhone, Microsoft Exchange Alternative</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Apple&#8217;s Relationship to VoIP Gets Murkier &#124; Cult of Mac</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154850</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apple&#8217;s Relationship to VoIP Gets Murkier &#124; Cult of Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rupert Goldie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154849</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rupert Goldie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The headline is rather misleading as the truphone application is not making a VoIP call, it&#039;s a calling card service where the hassle of entering account numbers and PINs has been hidden by the application. The fact that the call is terminated by VoIP is fairly irrelevant - most carriers these days will be using VoIP as part of their call transport.

The blog post by truphone linked above says, &quot;Truphone Anywhere works by connecting to a local Truphone server, which then connects the long-distance part of the call over the internet. The local connection to Truphone is, typically, free because it uses bundled minutes from the customer’s usual cellular service provider.&quot;

Rupert]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The headline is rather misleading as the truphone application is not making a VoIP call, it&#8217;s a calling card service where the hassle of entering account numbers and PINs has been hidden by the application. The fact that the call is terminated by VoIP is fairly irrelevant &#8211; most carriers these days will be using VoIP as part of their call transport.</p>
<p>The blog post by truphone linked above says, &#8220;Truphone Anywhere works by connecting to a local Truphone server, which then connects the long-distance part of the call over the internet. The local connection to Truphone is, typically, free because it uses bundled minutes from the customer’s usual cellular service provider.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rupert</p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/12/10/voip-on-the-iphone-without-wi-fi/#comment-154848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AT&amp;T minutes are kind of beside the point, aren&#039;t they? I mean, if you don&#039;t have a calling plan that&#039;s rolling minutes over every month anyway, you&#039;re probably already paying too much for your service. Unlimited local calling is $99 a month.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&amp;T minutes are kind of beside the point, aren&#8217;t they? I mean, if you don&#8217;t have a calling plan that&#8217;s rolling minutes over every month anyway, you&#8217;re probably already paying too much for your service. Unlimited local calling is $99 a month.</p>
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