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Regardless of however you spin it, if you are firing 20 percent of your work force and have no real business model to speak of, you are in trouble. That certainly is true of Fring, an Israeli Mobile VoIP startup, which has cut 10 of its […]

fringlogoRegardless of however you spin it, if you are firing 20 percent of your work force and have no real business model to speak of, you are in trouble. That certainly is true of Fring, an Israeli Mobile VoIP startup, which has cut 10 of its 50 employees. CEO Avi Shechter told TechCrunch that his company is doing well. In addition to $13 million it raised in the past, Avi says the company has raised an undisclosed amount of money in its Series C financing.

By doing well, I guess he means Fring’s deal with Mobilkom Austria and an increase in the number of monthly downloads from 100,000 a year ago to 400,000. Mobile advertising is one way it hopes to make money, but it seems like a long shot. Like many of its peers, Fring is going to have a tough time in the future. Jangl and TalkPlus have already shut down, while EQO recently fired 65 percent of its workforce. Jaxtr, another VoIP startup, recently had a management shakeup and has its own set of issues. Other Fring competitors would include iSkoot and Nimbuzz.

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  1. [...] I fuckin love OM (GigaOm) – tell it like it should be told – straight UP… (here) Regardless of however you spin it, if you are firing 20 percent of your work force and have no [...]

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  2. In terms of profit, VOIP only worked for existing telecom operators. However in terms of usage there are hundreds of VOIP provider are providing services and users are using them but I don’t see anyone making big money. There are 2 sides of VOIP 1) Access side and 2) Peering side. Existing operators exploits peering side of VOIP to connect call over IP across differnt geographic location whereas keeping access side circuit switched and cut their capex. On access side of VOIP compeitition is too much that only bigger player can survive.

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  3. @Vipin,

    I think the value proposition hasn’t gone beyond cheap or free calls so there is very little opportunity for a long term sustainable model. I think there are some folks who are doing well because they make gear/back end software but even those success stories are hard to find.

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  4. Hey Om. We could use a straight shooter like you on my site especially if it’s informative information.
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  5. My company has a similar VoIP client but we do not focus on consumers. Our pitch is encrypted VoIP for corporate customers and I truly believe is more sustainable than selling cheaper minutes. However the scale we can achieve (we have no virality – quite the opposite in fact) and the fact we didn’t go consumer so far has costed us a lot in terms of raising VC cash.

    I have to say that in the current climate it’s a safe choice… we have in the pipeline prospective customers that are scaling back all other investments and freezing their 2009 budgets. If you sell cheaper and cheaper minutes you end up giving free airtime and subsidize it with ads, which puts you in competition with Google and possibly Blyk in the UK. Notwhistanding the fact that mobile operators (assuming you’re not only on wifi) they can simply charge you a lump sum and give you free calls in the first place.

    The basic issues facing mobile VoIP are battery consumption due to radio turned on, traffic on the spectrum which is not really consumer friendly (hate them or love them, mobile operators have paid dearly for that spectrum and they have to protect it) and this coupled with the fact that the end user does not get any advantage by making a plain VoIP call vs. a circuit swicthed one.

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  6. Here’s why I disagree vehemently with most angel investing as well as VC: the guys doing the pitch filtering have NO CLUE about what kind of business is truly profitable. VoIP in the long run is a commodity. Commodity businesses deal with massive numbers of clients with low profitability. It’s like trying to start a company to sell Vitamin C tablets: it’s going to be a losing proposition.

    There are no “new trends” to VoIP, unless you can magically create a new codec to compress data faster and smaller, and that won’t happen. VoIP is a dead end for VC and angel investing.

    The business ideas I pitch to angels are profitable, expandable, and have almost no competition, but the morons who run the joints only want to hear about Web 2.0 and the Internet, even though future profitable investments will rely on P2P manual services rather than B2B electronic services.

    If I see another VoIP business plan come through my email box, I’ll croak. Telecom is dead, unless you’re designing something that is truly P2P without software or signifcant user install intervention.

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  7. [...] Yeah, what Om says… Nov.29, 2008 in Bubble Burst SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: “Yeah, what Om says…”, url: “http://www.screwdd.com/2008/11/29/yeah-what-om-says/” }); Regardless of however you spin it, if you are firing 20 percent of your work force and have no real business model to speak of, you are in trouble. That certainly is true of Fring, an Israeli Mobile VoIP startup, which has cut 10 of its 50 employees. CEO Avi Shechter told TechCrunch that his company is doing well. In addition to $13 million it raised in the past, Avi says the company has raised an undisclosed amount of money in its Series C financing. (GigaOm) [...]

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  8. [...] Malik | Sunday, November 30, 2008 | 6:20 PM PT | 0 comments The bad news for mobile VoIP startups keeps coming. EQO, which had cut nearly 65 percent of its workforce about two months ago, might [...]

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  9. To A.B.Dada: you are asking for something that does not require installtion, has new codec, etc.. Go check our FreeRinger at http://www.freeringer.biz, it’s a flash based voip app and free world-wide phone calling service. And yes, there’s a business model.

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  10. [...] has not problem, coming up with solutions, like it did with our mobile problems!Mobile is on the up.GigaOm and ever inquisitive Ken Camp has also written on the issue. Tags: VoIP business, fring, mobile [...]

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