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	<title>Comments on: Off-Topic: Why Citibank Should Vanish</title>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-936090</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;my thoughts we all owe citibank somehow on credit cards repay them&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my thoughts we all owe citibank somehow on credit cards repay them</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: J McCarley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-924274</link>
		<dc:creator>J McCarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just got my notice on our Sears and Home Depot accounts (both issued by CitiBank) Increased to 24.99% from 12.08%!!!!! This is just wrong on so many levels. We will pay off the balance today and not use the cards again. We have that option, but what of the suddenly unemployed? Or those on fixed income? And this is good who? Am so angry.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got my notice on our Sears and Home Depot accounts (both issued by CitiBank) Increased to 24.99% from 12.08%!!!!! This is just wrong on so many levels. We will pay off the balance today and not use the cards again. We have that option, but what of the suddenly unemployed? Or those on fixed income? And this is good who? Am so angry.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-916742</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Citibank is an ineptly run institution.  Any government support of this inept business should be dealt with at the ballot box.  Any elected official who votes for support of Citibank shold be voted out of office.  They are just throwing good money after bad--bad money and bad people.  Throwing money at Citibank is like sprinkling perfume on a cancer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citibank is an ineptly run institution.  Any government support of this inept business should be dealt with at the ballot box.  Any elected official who votes for support of Citibank shold be voted out of office.  They are just throwing good money after bad&#8211;bad money and bad people.  Throwing money at Citibank is like sprinkling perfume on a cancer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: phr3akinr1can</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-916251</link>
		<dc:creator>phr3akinr1can</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I JUST got mine in the mail, too!  Since they could not disclose too much about the true reason for this other than &quot;market conditions&quot; they did refer me to a website for answers..This website is http://www.federalreserve.gov and that sent me to the roof.  That lead me to believe one of two things could be happening.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Citi could be looking for a quick way to buying back their shares to minimize federal interference in their company operations and passing that cost to the customer.  Which is an act of Thievery since we, the taxpayers are virtual shareholders of this company and helping them pay this down in this fashion will circumvent any revenue gains from this controversial decision.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;OR&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This will increase the government gains until the shares are bought back, BUT the profits or gains probably won&#039;t make it&#039;s way back into our pockets,  quite the contrary we have been indirectly charged twice for the transaction.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I JUST got mine in the mail, too!  Since they could not disclose too much about the true reason for this other than &#8220;market conditions&#8221; they did refer me to a website for answers..This website is <a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.federalreserve.gov</a> and that sent me to the roof.  That lead me to believe one of two things could be happening.</p>

<p>Citi could be looking for a quick way to buying back their shares to minimize federal interference in their company operations and passing that cost to the customer.  Which is an act of Thievery since we, the taxpayers are virtual shareholders of this company and helping them pay this down in this fashion will circumvent any revenue gains from this controversial decision.</p>

<p>OR</p>

<p>This will increase the government gains until the shares are bought back, BUT the profits or gains probably won&#8217;t make it&#8217;s way back into our pockets,  quite the contrary we have been indirectly charged twice for the transaction.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Stock Trader</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-915573</link>
		<dc:creator>Stock Trader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The general incompetence is from the board and not the general employees.  Fired the board ... but 52,000 hard working people are about to get axed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general incompetence is from the board and not the general employees.  Fired the board &#8230; but 52,000 hard working people are about to get axed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sam Farag</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-915559</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Farag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I disagree that Citibank does not respect its customers.  Citibank is taking vigilant action to insure that it survives this meltdown and it can return any money borrowed from Taxpayers.  To do that, they have to be PROFITABLE.  To be profitable, they have to pick their battles and make sure they have GOOD Credit Worthy Clients that are willing to pay for mutual benefit and survival.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;regards&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sam&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that Citibank does not respect its customers.  Citibank is taking vigilant action to insure that it survives this meltdown and it can return any money borrowed from Taxpayers.  To do that, they have to be PROFITABLE.  To be profitable, they have to pick their battles and make sure they have GOOD Credit Worthy Clients that are willing to pay for mutual benefit and survival.</p>

<p>regards</p>

<p>Sam</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: A.B. Dada</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-915200</link>
		<dc:creator>A.B. Dada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 06:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Om,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do a search for &quot;fractional reserve banking&quot; and &quot;full reserve banking&quot; and you&#039;ll see it isn&#039;t just Citibank that acts in a morally bankrupt fashion but ALL commercial and consumer banks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When the dollar isn&#039;t fixed to a real standard, the banks have no idea where to put money as a safe investment and still beat the Federal Reserve-generated cost of living hikes each year.  Even worse, the same organization, the Federal Reserve, allows these commercials banks to actually PRINT THEIR OWN MONEY in-house through fractional reserve lending.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s all criminal, right down to the dollar bill.  When society realizes that fiat currency never wins, and always kills the lower and middle classes, they&#039;ll riot enough to push the REAL criminals out: the Federal Reserve, and the Democrats and Republicans who love them.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om,</p>

<p>Do a search for &#8220;fractional reserve banking&#8221; and &#8220;full reserve banking&#8221; and you&#8217;ll see it isn&#8217;t just Citibank that acts in a morally bankrupt fashion but ALL commercial and consumer banks.</p>

<p>When the dollar isn&#8217;t fixed to a real standard, the banks have no idea where to put money as a safe investment and still beat the Federal Reserve-generated cost of living hikes each year.  Even worse, the same organization, the Federal Reserve, allows these commercials banks to actually PRINT THEIR OWN MONEY in-house through fractional reserve lending.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s all criminal, right down to the dollar bill.  When society realizes that fiat currency never wins, and always kills the lower and middle classes, they&#8217;ll riot enough to push the REAL criminals out: the Federal Reserve, and the Democrats and Republicans who love them.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: GadgetGav</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-915148</link>
		<dc:creator>GadgetGav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I got the same letter today and I&#039;ll be calling them to opt out. Interestingly, if you read the small print, by opting out you are choosing to keep you current terms until the end of your membership year or the expiration date on your card whichever is &lt;em&gt;later&lt;/em&gt;. That doesn&#039;t seem too bad. I think my card just renewed, so I could keep my current interest rate (about 6% LOWER than the new terms) for another couple of years. Of course, that will mean closing my eyes, holding my nose and continuing to deal with Citi, but is there really any good option in the current financial world...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the same letter today and I&#8217;ll be calling them to opt out. Interestingly, if you read the small print, by opting out you are choosing to keep you current terms until the end of your membership year or the expiration date on your card whichever is <em>later</em>. That doesn&#8217;t seem too bad. I think my card just renewed, so I could keep my current interest rate (about 6% LOWER than the new terms) for another couple of years. Of course, that will mean closing my eyes, holding my nose and continuing to deal with Citi, but is there really any good option in the current financial world&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eideard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-915065</link>
		<dc:creator>Eideard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Several points:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;HSBC + a local bank you already know you can trust.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many credit unions are state-chartered and do not fly under the wing of federal insurance [or federal oversight] programs like FDIC.  Buyer beware.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Housing bubble?  Of course.  My last decade before retirement was spent inside the home-building industry.  Even today&#039;s prices are inflated a minimum of 40% above reality.  Still a long way to fall.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Keep rolling out your opinions, Om.  We read them and evaluate them on the basis of the person we already know you to be - and our own opinions and analysis, of course.  Agreement or disagreement is optional.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several points:</p>

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<li><p>HSBC + a local bank you already know you can trust.</p></li>
<li><p>Many credit unions are state-chartered and do not fly under the wing of federal insurance [or federal oversight] programs like FDIC.  Buyer beware.</p></li>
<li><p>Housing bubble?  Of course.  My last decade before retirement was spent inside the home-building industry.  Even today&#8217;s prices are inflated a minimum of 40% above reality.  Still a long way to fall.</p></li>
<li><p>Keep rolling out your opinions, Om.  We read them and evaluate them on the basis of the person we already know you to be &#8211; and our own opinions and analysis, of course.  Agreement or disagreement is optional.</p></li>
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		<title>By: Steffan Heuer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-915062</link>
		<dc:creator>Steffan Heuer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Om,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the off-topic diatribe, with which I could not agree more.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They have also started punishing long-time customers in another devious way: They charge you $10 a day (!!!) for already existing overdraft protection, even if it only means covering a $5 outstanding balance. That also means they force customers to keep excessive cash in their checking acct instead of moving it into an interest bearing account.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om,</p>

<p>Thanks for the off-topic diatribe, with which I could not agree more.</p>

<p>They have also started punishing long-time customers in another devious way: They charge you $10 a day (!!!) for already existing overdraft protection, even if it only means covering a $5 outstanding balance. That also means they force customers to keep excessive cash in their checking acct instead of moving it into an interest bearing account.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Keral Patel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-915035</link>
		<dc:creator>Keral Patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Money for them if you use your credit card for foreign transactions. Money for them if they are sinking. Well that is double benefit for the bank itself. Not for the people.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money for them if you use your credit card for foreign transactions. Money for them if they are sinking. Well that is double benefit for the bank itself. Not for the people.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-915001</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Om,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you are looking for a decent bank check out www.ingdirect.com or a local credit union, both have done me well.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om,</p>

<p>If you are looking for a decent bank check out <a href="http://www.ingdirect.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ingdirect.com</a> or a local credit union, both have done me well.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-914996</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Om,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You read my comment correctly, I do agree with you. But, I just feel like this isn&#039;t the right forum for venting. To me, when you want to write something like this, it should come in a place where people are otherwise surrounded with information about the subject (I think that&#039;s part of the reason why blogs have flourished in recent years).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You (and your sites) have been an extremely respectable source of news for a long time. You will continue to be so. I appreciate your desire to use GigaOM as your personal soapbox (it has your name after all). I just feel like it hurts the national debate when someone with a sizable readership goes on a tangent about a topic when they are not an expert (think Bill O&#039;Reilly).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for addressing my comment. Keep up the great tech reporting and analysis. I honestly think you add a tremendous amount of value to the national debate on that topic. (I won&#039;t address any comments about Citi here again).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Best,
Brian&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Om,</p>

<p>You read my comment correctly, I do agree with you. But, I just feel like this isn&#8217;t the right forum for venting. To me, when you want to write something like this, it should come in a place where people are otherwise surrounded with information about the subject (I think that&#8217;s part of the reason why blogs have flourished in recent years).</p>

<p>You (and your sites) have been an extremely respectable source of news for a long time. You will continue to be so. I appreciate your desire to use GigaOM as your personal soapbox (it has your name after all). I just feel like it hurts the national debate when someone with a sizable readership goes on a tangent about a topic when they are not an expert (think Bill O&#8217;Reilly).</p>

<p>Thanks for addressing my comment. Keep up the great tech reporting and analysis. I honestly think you add a tremendous amount of value to the national debate on that topic. (I won&#8217;t address any comments about Citi here again).</p>

<p>Best,
Brian</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rob friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 22:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Vanish with some cement shoes!  Know what I mean?
If only...
Instead of bailout&#039;s how about jail time?  What happened to our confidence is we&#039;ve been taken for a ride.  These were some of the wealthiest banks, and corporations in the world.  They&#039;re continuing to act the same, resistant to real change and accountability.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanish with some cement shoes!  Know what I mean?
If only&#8230;
Instead of bailout&#8217;s how about jail time?  What happened to our confidence is we&#8217;ve been taken for a ride.  These were some of the wealthiest banks, and corporations in the world.  They&#8217;re continuing to act the same, resistant to real change and accountability.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mc</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-914942</link>
		<dc:creator>mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@scott--You&#039;re kidding about etrade right? You obviously haven&#039;t googled &quot;etrade toxic mortgage&quot; lately, have you?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@scott&#8211;You&#8217;re kidding about etrade right? You obviously haven&#8217;t googled &#8220;etrade toxic mortgage&#8221; lately, have you?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/26/off-topic-why-citibank-should-vanish/#comment-914933</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m pleased to see commentators are at last finally calling a spade a spade and labelling CitiBank as the criminals they are. 
I&#039;d actually go as far as blaming the entire global financial melt down on them. You don&#039;t have to look very far back in history to see they were the leading player in EVERY single record breaking financial scandal from Enron the Worldcomm. Another glaringly OBVIOUS sign of how bent these scum bags are is the BILLIONS in fines they pay EVERY SINGLE YEAR to the SEC. What sort of financial system or government regulator allows a company that gets caught breaking the law so often that it&#039;s continuously paying BILLIONS in fines to still have a license to operate? There was actually a column in Forbes keeping score on all these staggering fines, but it mysteriously stopped a few years ago and there is no outcry about it in the general media at all, like having the nations largest bank constantly getting caught breaking the law is an acceptable business practice. Why do they think Citi is the biggest in a business were screwing people over is the name of the game?
Why isn’t someone at Citi doing time for Enron or Worldcomm seeing as they aided and abetted both scams? If someone from Citi doesn&#039;t do time for this melt down (look through events of where the deck of cards started to fall and I GUARANTEE you Citi was a major player) then this sort of ridiculous sh*t will happen over and over again, as it has been!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pleased to see commentators are at last finally calling a spade a spade and labelling CitiBank as the criminals they are. 
I&#8217;d actually go as far as blaming the entire global financial melt down on them. You don&#8217;t have to look very far back in history to see they were the leading player in EVERY single record breaking financial scandal from Enron the Worldcomm. Another glaringly OBVIOUS sign of how bent these scum bags are is the BILLIONS in fines they pay EVERY SINGLE YEAR to the SEC. What sort of financial system or government regulator allows a company that gets caught breaking the law so often that it&#8217;s continuously paying BILLIONS in fines to still have a license to operate? There was actually a column in Forbes keeping score on all these staggering fines, but it mysteriously stopped a few years ago and there is no outcry about it in the general media at all, like having the nations largest bank constantly getting caught breaking the law is an acceptable business practice. Why do they think Citi is the biggest in a business were screwing people over is the name of the game?
Why isn’t someone at Citi doing time for Enron or Worldcomm seeing as they aided and abetted both scams? If someone from Citi doesn&#8217;t do time for this melt down (look through events of where the deck of cards started to fall and I GUARANTEE you Citi was a major player) then this sort of ridiculous sh*t will happen over and over again, as it has been!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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