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So, um, I watch Gossip Girl. But I do it on my laptop, when nobody else is around. And as I read recently of complaints by Lipstick Jungle‘s creators that its cancellation threats are unfair because much of its audience isn’t measured, I had to wonder […]

So, um, I watch Gossip Girl. But I do it on my laptop, when nobody else is around.

gossipgirlstreamingAnd as I read recently of complaints by Lipstick Jungle‘s creators that its cancellation threats are unfair because much of its audience isn’t measured, I had to wonder if maybe they weren’t just whining.

Could the increasing number of options for watching TV shows that fall under the guilty pleasure category mean they are slipping in the conventional rating systems? Soap operas are some of CBS Interactive’s most popular online programming, I’ve been told. I’ve also heard concern from networks that younger-skewing shows just aren’t as economically viable these days, because their audience could care less about the TV. BitTorrent, YouTube, TV Links, iTunes — it’s all at their fingertips.

But I wonder if as online viewing goes more mainstream, this wouldn’t be a broader concern for shows that people prefer to watch in private or when nobody else is around. I don’t mean anything salacious, necessarily, I just doubt that I’m the only one who would rather not admit I know what Blair Waldorf’s latest blackmail scheme was.

The CW has expressed frustration over its inability to nail down viewership numbers for Gossip Girl in the face of the show’s supposed popularity (at least as measured by things like press coverage). The network even pulled Gossip Girl from online streaming last season in an effort to drive up viewership (it resumed streaming this season, but still posts it a few days after it airs, longer than any other network). Lipstick Jungle seems to be facing a similar problem. Here’s the bit about the show from the Daily Beast this morning:

The Nielsen scores do not reflect the number of people who TiVo episodes or watch the show on websites like NBC.com or Hulu—where Lipstick has a cult following. If these numbers were included, Candace Bushnell told The Daily Beast, the network would be crazy to talk cancellation. “These kinds of serial shows tend to be what people TiVo and then watch all in a row on a Saturday morning,” she says. “Over 50 percent of our audience is not accounted for in the numbers.”

Does the data support this theory? A recent report said both Gossip and Lipstick had above-average DVR numbers. Gossip Girl is almost always at the top of the iTunes charts, but I can’t say the same for Lipstick Jungle on Hulu. According to NBC’s integrated measurement system, mobile, VOD, downloads, and streaming amount to at most a tenth of the show’s viewership.

Meanwhile, it’s not as if building an online audience is a bad thing. It’s just not a thing that keeps shows on the air these days

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  1. Pet peeve: The phrase is “couldn’t care less.” “Could care less” implies that the viewers DO care, which in this case negates your whole point.

    The TV ratings game is very broken. I’m surprised that the major networks don’t just gauge shows based on ad impressions by now, anyway.

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  3. there’s no $ to be made on the internet period.

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  4. Yes, I think “guilty pleasure” TV shows will be watched much less often now. However, I think the effect will be evened out by being able to access more shows overall.

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  5. I agree that the TV rating system is completely broken. Most TV viewers outside the US are getting their content via Bit torrent and a great site that is tracking this is http://www.showinsider.com/ which monitors and tracks major peer to peer networks. The networks need to look at other areas where users are consuming their TV shows.

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  6. I’m an 18 year old male and I watch Gossip Girl online at 3am the night it airs. Am I embarrassed? Not technically, my friends know I watch it. But still, I watch it online because it’s a guilty pleasure show and I’d rather watch it in private.

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  7. “because their audience could care less about the TV…… — it’s all at their fingertips.”

    Hi,

    Sorry, but good journalism/english requires this:

    Then why don’t they care less?

    Why waste effort caring more than they need to, if, as you/they say, “they could care less”?

    Or are they complaining that they want to care less but that they find themselves unable to care less for some reason?

    Did you mean to say, “they couldn’t care less”?

    : j

    Doesn’t Hiro-Media have some sort of measurement facility?

    I think as the market develops, and broadcaster acceptance of open digital distribution occurs, illegal bit-torrent really won’t be an issue, when it’s all above board and doesn’t require illegal use to get the latest content.

    It’s not like Nielsen is absolutely accurate as it is – and it’s been adequate for all this time.

    Kind regards,

    Shakir Razak

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  9. [...] Schwartz said he disagreed with the CW’s decision to take down free streaming episodes of Gossip Girl last year in an attempt to drive live viewer numbers up. “We fought them on that. People who watch online don’t always also watch on TV,” he said. (The CW eventually came around and resumed posting episodes on its site, where they are “disproportionately popular,” according to Schwartz. We have a little theory that has something to do with the show being a guilty pleasure.) [...]

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