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		<title>By: leeander.com &#187; TheFounded alla Harvard Business School</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-914484</link>
		<dc:creator>leeander.com &#187; TheFounded alla Harvard Business School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] &#8220;Is the VC Model Broken? Far From it&#8221; - But in the meantime the Canarie is Dead - via Mathew Ingram e Roberto [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Is the VC Model Broken? Far From it&#8221; &#8211; But in the meantime the Canarie is Dead &#8211; via Mathew Ingram e Roberto [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rob Adler</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-913264</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Adler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Start ups with massive scalability but without a business model are perfect candidates for acquisition by companies that will incorporate the product of of the start up into an existing product. Until recently, where a lucrative acquisition was far more likely as the best case scenario than IPO, that may not have been a crazy strategy. Why invest resources to get customers if the acquirer is not going to pay you for them? Of course, that assumed the company could be sold quickly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When the acquisition window closed, these companies ended up on the business end of a an e-mail with a tombstone on it. At that point, they need to ratchet up their sales, marketing and PR efforts post haste. Because when it is time for the next round of funding, the VCs will have changed their tune and will be insisting on a sales track record and a viable busines model. http://blog.pr-vantage.com/?p=513&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Start ups with massive scalability but without a business model are perfect candidates for acquisition by companies that will incorporate the product of of the start up into an existing product. Until recently, where a lucrative acquisition was far more likely as the best case scenario than IPO, that may not have been a crazy strategy. Why invest resources to get customers if the acquirer is not going to pay you for them? Of course, that assumed the company could be sold quickly.</p>

<p>When the acquisition window closed, these companies ended up on the business end of a an e-mail with a tombstone on it. At that point, they need to ratchet up their sales, marketing and PR efforts post haste. Because when it is time for the next round of funding, the VCs will have changed their tune and will be insisting on a sales track record and a viable busines model. <a href="http://blog.pr-vantage.com/?p=513" rel="nofollow">http://blog.pr-vantage.com/?p=513</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Adeo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-913254</link>
		<dc:creator>Adeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here are some further thoughts on the presentation and the VC model in a written form. Many reporters took the presentation as an opportunity to share their own views...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.adeoressi.com/2008/11/15/the-vc-mode...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some further thoughts on the presentation and the VC model in a written form. Many reporters took the presentation as an opportunity to share their own views&#8230;</p>

<p><a href="http://www.adeoressi.com/2008/11/15/the-vc-mode.." rel="nofollow">http://www.adeoressi.com/2008/11/15/the-vc-mode..</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alain Raynaud</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-913247</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain Raynaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;About VC elitism: it&#039;s true that it&#039;s very hard to get the attention of a VC unless you get a good intro, which doesn&#039;t make sense to the 20 year old entrepreneur.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the entrepreneur community is fighting back and getting organized: thefunded.com of course, but also people like Dave McClure and startup2startup.com. The best way I have seen for entrepreneurs is to help each other. Start your own group of people you trust, and grow it. Better yet: join another group, and then bring the people you trust. As with any group, the quality is a function of the members. But it&#039;s so much easier to be accepted in an entrepreneur group than to break into an investor group. Fellow entrepreneurs share the same pains and understand each other.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bottom line: as an entrepreneur, go out today and meet other entrepreneurs. That&#039;s the best thing you can do (the rest of the time, work on your product).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About VC elitism: it&#8217;s true that it&#8217;s very hard to get the attention of a VC unless you get a good intro, which doesn&#8217;t make sense to the 20 year old entrepreneur.</p>

<p>But the entrepreneur community is fighting back and getting organized: thefunded.com of course, but also people like Dave McClure and startup2startup.com. The best way I have seen for entrepreneurs is to help each other. Start your own group of people you trust, and grow it. Better yet: join another group, and then bring the people you trust. As with any group, the quality is a function of the members. But it&#8217;s so much easier to be accepted in an entrepreneur group than to break into an investor group. Fellow entrepreneurs share the same pains and understand each other.</p>

<p>Bottom line: as an entrepreneur, go out today and meet other entrepreneurs. That&#8217;s the best thing you can do (the rest of the time, work on your product).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: VCHack</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-913233</link>
		<dc:creator>VCHack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For a site and company funded by VCs, I&#039;m not surprised to see this article come out....the fact that the industry is even entertaining the proposition that the VC model is broken is sufficient to tell you that something has gone very wrong for a very long time now....I&#039;m glad that LPs are pulling their money out of funds....at least we are back to fundamentals, and not VC hubris. I agree with Mark&#039;s comments above ---- entrepreneurs and LPs will put the squeeze on the VC....not much they can really do because VCs are useless for most things but their LP&#039;s money.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a site and company funded by VCs, I&#8217;m not surprised to see this article come out&#8230;.the fact that the industry is even entertaining the proposition that the VC model is broken is sufficient to tell you that something has gone very wrong for a very long time now&#8230;.I&#8217;m glad that LPs are pulling their money out of funds&#8230;.at least we are back to fundamentals, and not VC hubris. I agree with Mark&#8217;s comments above &#8212;- entrepreneurs and LPs will put the squeeze on the VC&#8230;.not much they can really do because VCs are useless for most things but their LP&#8217;s money.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike McGrath</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-913208</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McGrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;VCs may want to broaden their portfolio&#039;s to include start-ups with real business models and pathways to profitability not just massive scalability. Just like they did (or claimed they did) after the first bubble burst...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VCs may want to broaden their portfolio&#8217;s to include start-ups with real business models and pathways to profitability not just massive scalability. Just like they did (or claimed they did) after the first bubble burst&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: November 14, 2008 &#124; next media update</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-913192</link>
		<dc:creator>November 14, 2008 &#124; next media update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Is the VC Model Broken? Far From it  GIGAOM Adeo Ressi, the serial entrepreneur behind the venture-capital rating site TheFunded, has been getting a lot of attention for a presentation he gave at Harvard Business School in which he argued that the VC industry is &#8220;broken.&#8221; His central point is that there are simply too many venture capital funds chasing too few opportunities, with unrealistic expectations. The result, as he notes in one eye-grabbing slide, is that VC returns over the past five years have fallen below the total amount of money invested over that same time period. Source&gt; [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Is the VC Model Broken? Far From it  GIGAOM Adeo Ressi, the serial entrepreneur behind the venture-capital rating site TheFunded, has been getting a lot of attention for a presentation he gave at Harvard Business School in which he argued that the VC industry is &#8220;broken.&#8221; His central point is that there are simply too many venture capital funds chasing too few opportunities, with unrealistic expectations. The result, as he notes in one eye-grabbing slide, is that VC returns over the past five years have fallen below the total amount of money invested over that same time period. Source&gt; [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: VC Model May Not Be Broken, But Needs To Evolve &#8230; Fast! &#124; Betterlabs - Product Incubation Blog.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-913104</link>
		<dc:creator>VC Model May Not Be Broken, But Needs To Evolve &#8230; Fast! &#124; Betterlabs - Product Incubation Blog.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] are not acceptable, there is definitely merit to the question he raises about the current VC model. GigaOm disagrees [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-913049</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The model is broken because 
a) VC business is not scaleable and thus so many new funds is creating lack of quality investments.
b) VCs are obscenely paid - why should someone get 2-3% fund management fees. It should be as tightly managed as the costs of portfolio companies. Look at VC offices apart from compensation. LPs should lower the salaries.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The model is broken because 
a) VC business is not scaleable and thus so many new funds is creating lack of quality investments.
b) VCs are obscenely paid &#8211; why should someone get 2-3% fund management fees. It should be as tightly managed as the costs of portfolio companies. Look at VC offices apart from compensation. LPs should lower the salaries.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-913025</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mathew,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This article is an infruriating piece of journalism. It&#039;s similar to a Palin interview: all jingoism, surface level analysis and bereft of any real data or understanding. It&#039;s also an example of what&#039;s wrong with tech blogging these days: needless piling on without any value add. How does this article actually contribute to the discussion? I&#039;m sick of seeing all these bloggers scour Techmeme for the most popular topic of the day and then re-blog it without adding any new context or value. Enough, already. Talk about an industry segment that is broken.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mathew,</p>

<p>This article is an infruriating piece of journalism. It&#8217;s similar to a Palin interview: all jingoism, surface level analysis and bereft of any real data or understanding. It&#8217;s also an example of what&#8217;s wrong with tech blogging these days: needless piling on without any value add. How does this article actually contribute to the discussion? I&#8217;m sick of seeing all these bloggers scour Techmeme for the most popular topic of the day and then re-blog it without adding any new context or value. Enough, already. Talk about an industry segment that is broken.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John "Shadowlayer"</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-912952</link>
		<dc:creator>John "Shadowlayer"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From my point of view, the two major problems that are destroying VC are elitism and fees.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is amazing how hard is to get some attention from VCs if you aren&#039;t a &quot;player&quot; in the entrepreneur enviroment (ie: if you&#039;re just some guy in his 20s). Most of the time, is not about your idea at all, but who send you there and who you &quot;know&quot; or what &quot;friends&quot; you have. At the end the real innovators are left aside, with only a few getting funding, while lots of &#039;wantrepreneurs&#039; get most of the cash for what amounts to just a bunch of me-too ideas that go nowhere.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I wouldn&#039;t tout FB, twitter and youtube as success stories, seeing that the first two are still on the red (technically, since spending surpasses incomes) and youtube got away with it thanks to google, but it&#039;s still unprofitable.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my point of view, the two major problems that are destroying VC are elitism and fees.</p>

<p>Is amazing how hard is to get some attention from VCs if you aren&#8217;t a &#8220;player&#8221; in the entrepreneur enviroment (ie: if you&#8217;re just some guy in his 20s). Most of the time, is not about your idea at all, but who send you there and who you &#8220;know&#8221; or what &#8220;friends&#8221; you have. At the end the real innovators are left aside, with only a few getting funding, while lots of &#8216;wantrepreneurs&#8217; get most of the cash for what amounts to just a bunch of me-too ideas that go nowhere.</p>

<p>Anyway, I wouldn&#8217;t tout FB, twitter and youtube as success stories, seeing that the first two are still on the red (technically, since spending surpasses incomes) and youtube got away with it thanks to google, but it&#8217;s still unprofitable.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bob Butler</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-912919</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;University Endowments and most large institutional investors are mandated by their charters to only have certain percentages of certain types of investments.  Therefore, many can only have say 10% of their portfolio in VC.  When their other investment categories tanked, many found themselves out of compliance having a larger proportion than allowed in VC. These organization were then required to put the VC assets on the market. (they may also have to back out of their funding commitments to a VC funds, hence the sudden actions by Sequoia and others to instruct their portfolio companies to cut back immediately)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Therefor the big jump in Endowments putting VC assets on the market reported by Bloomberg and referenced in the article may not be signaling the overall demise of this investment class, as it is just a structural realignment due to larger market aftershocks.  It would be more telling to know what the Angels, Hedge Funds and Private Equity types are doing with their VC assets, as they typically do not operate under these constraints.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>University Endowments and most large institutional investors are mandated by their charters to only have certain percentages of certain types of investments.  Therefore, many can only have say 10% of their portfolio in VC.  When their other investment categories tanked, many found themselves out of compliance having a larger proportion than allowed in VC. These organization were then required to put the VC assets on the market. (they may also have to back out of their funding commitments to a VC funds, hence the sudden actions by Sequoia and others to instruct their portfolio companies to cut back immediately)</p>

<p>Therefor the big jump in Endowments putting VC assets on the market reported by Bloomberg and referenced in the article may not be signaling the overall demise of this investment class, as it is just a structural realignment due to larger market aftershocks.  It would be more telling to know what the Angels, Hedge Funds and Private Equity types are doing with their VC assets, as they typically do not operate under these constraints.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris Yeh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-912886</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Yeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jonathan,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Classically, VCs would invest in companies before they launched; you needed millions of dollars to build your product, and then you&#039;d raise more money to market it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Today, it&#039;s really a game of &quot;dump and chase&quot; (to borrow a hockey term).  Companies launch and get traction before raising money.  This is true of several of the investments I&#039;ve been involved with, like PBwiki (first VC investment 18 months after launch) and Ustream (first VC investment 12 months after launch).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,</p>

<p>Classically, VCs would invest in companies before they launched; you needed millions of dollars to build your product, and then you&#8217;d raise more money to market it.</p>

<p>Today, it&#8217;s really a game of &#8220;dump and chase&#8221; (to borrow a hockey term).  Companies launch and get traction before raising money.  This is true of several of the investments I&#8217;ve been involved with, like PBwiki (first VC investment 18 months after launch) and Ustream (first VC investment 12 months after launch).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: The more things change, the more they stay the same&#8230; &#171; Five Years Too late</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-912881</link>
		<dc:creator>The more things change, the more they stay the same&#8230; &#171; Five Years Too late</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] a few thoughts and anecdotes about a lot of the discussion flying around the web about the VC model being broken. James D. Robinson [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: VCs Turning to BRICA in Slump? - Appfrica</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-912871</link>
		<dc:creator>VCs Turning to BRICA in Slump? - Appfrica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Ingram of GigaOm writes.. But is it evidence that the VC game is kaput? Hardly. Instead, it’s reminiscent of Warren [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Mathew Ingram</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/14/is-the-vc-model-broken-far-from-it/#comment-912822</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew Ingram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the comments, everyone -- and @Jonathan, thanks for noticing it was me :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, everyone &#8212; and @Jonathan, thanks for noticing it was me :-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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