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	<title>Comments on: We&#8217;re Gonna Have to Wait a Year for White Spaces</title>
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		<title>By: SkyscraperMan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-976564</link>
		<dc:creator>SkyscraperMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Burj Dubai is a modern marvel of engineering it stands at 818 metres tall. The Burj Dubai will have its grand opening on the 1st of December this year.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Burj Dubai</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-921859</link>
		<dc:creator>Burj Dubai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes the road will be long 12 to 18 months at the earlest I think.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the road will be long 12 to 18 months at the earlest I think.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Wireless Connectivity Has Helped Netbook Sales Boom</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-919179</link>
		<dc:creator>Wireless Connectivity Has Helped Netbook Sales Boom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] devices to perform. Faster wireless networks in the form of LTE and WiMAX, or cheaper ones in the form of white spaces will make this transition accessible from a cost and network speed perspective. Let&#8217;s get [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] devices to perform. Faster wireless networks in the form of LTE and WiMAX, or cheaper ones in the form of white spaces will make this transition accessible from a cost and network speed perspective. Let&#8217;s get [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Panic. Gartner Drops Chip Forecast</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-918173</link>
		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Panic. Gartner Drops Chip Forecast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] spaces broadband. This won&#8217;t happen until 2010, but it will drive the sale of chips in base stations or mesh networks as well as in end [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] spaces broadband. This won&#8217;t happen until 2010, but it will drive the sale of chips in base stations or mesh networks as well as in end [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ZDNet Government mobile edition</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-911305</link>
		<dc:creator>ZDNet Government mobile edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] On GigaOm, Stacey Higginbotham cites Motorola&#039;s Steve Sharkey as saying that it will take at least a year to bring devices to market. Even FCC chair Kevin J. Martin says it will take 12 to 18 months. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On GigaOm, Stacey Higginbotham cites Motorola&#8217;s Steve Sharkey as saying that it will take at least a year to bring devices to market. Even FCC chair Kevin J. Martin says it will take 12 to 18 months. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DailyWireless &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wednesday Links: White Space, Clearwire</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-911146</link>
		<dc:creator>DailyWireless &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wednesday Links: White Space, Clearwire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Gigaom reports that the white spaces won&#8217;t be available right away despite the ruling. It seems there will be a long road ahead. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gigaom reports that the white spaces won&#8217;t be available right away despite the ruling. It seems there will be a long road ahead. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Money for Nothing and Your Spectrum for Free - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-911134</link>
		<dc:creator>Money for Nothing and Your Spectrum for Free - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] having to bid big at an expensive spectrum auction. The FCC&#8217;s decision earlier this week to open up white space spectrum, the slivers of bandwidth between what&#8217;s being made available for the coming digital [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] having to bid big at an expensive spectrum auction. The FCC&#8217;s decision earlier this week to open up white space spectrum, the slivers of bandwidth between what&#8217;s being made available for the coming digital [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: &#187; Google and the FCC, BFF Sidecut Reports</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-911083</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Google and the FCC, BFF Sidecut Reports</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] aside all the technical stuff about white spaces technology, since it&#8217;s not going to help you get a faster broadband connection anytime soon. What was [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-911078</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Kopelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Robert&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With spectrum sensing you don&#039;t pick a clear channel and stick with it indefinitely, you keep scanning every few seconds and hop to a new channel as needed. This allows you to not only avoid interfering with other devices but also always be on the channel with the best RF characteristics. The overall mechanism would be very similar to frequency hopping in GSM. When the user device is powered on it scans through all channels and associates with the base-station that it can receive the best. If it doesn&#039;t find any base stations, it will continue to periodically rescan until it does. Channel hopping will be controlled by the base station. When it decides there is a need to change channel it will first broadcast a message to all user devices informing them of the new channel. Even if this message is missed by a particular device, after a period of no control messages being received it will re-enter scanning mode and eventually rediscover the base-station (by eventually, I mean some fraction of a second). A primary factor in the success of this strategy is that user devices will have to be limited to no more power than devices like wireless mikes, so that you will never have a situation where the base-station cannot &quot;hear&quot; such devices in the proximity of the White Spaces user device. In spectrum starved markets, dynamic power control can also be employed to reshape the service area on the fly as wireless mikes and whatnot are detected -- sucks for users near those wireless mikes, but at least the rest of the network is unaffected. These techniques have all been used to various degrees in digital radios for a very long time, so we are not talking about anything hard or costly to implement in prospective White Spaces devices (although standardizing things for guaranteed interoperability between vendors could take years).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert</p>

<p>With spectrum sensing you don&#8217;t pick a clear channel and stick with it indefinitely, you keep scanning every few seconds and hop to a new channel as needed. This allows you to not only avoid interfering with other devices but also always be on the channel with the best RF characteristics. The overall mechanism would be very similar to frequency hopping in GSM. When the user device is powered on it scans through all channels and associates with the base-station that it can receive the best. If it doesn&#8217;t find any base stations, it will continue to periodically rescan until it does. Channel hopping will be controlled by the base station. When it decides there is a need to change channel it will first broadcast a message to all user devices informing them of the new channel. Even if this message is missed by a particular device, after a period of no control messages being received it will re-enter scanning mode and eventually rediscover the base-station (by eventually, I mean some fraction of a second). A primary factor in the success of this strategy is that user devices will have to be limited to no more power than devices like wireless mikes, so that you will never have a situation where the base-station cannot &#8220;hear&#8221; such devices in the proximity of the White Spaces user device. In spectrum starved markets, dynamic power control can also be employed to reshape the service area on the fly as wireless mikes and whatnot are detected &#8212; sucks for users near those wireless mikes, but at least the rest of the network is unaffected. These techniques have all been used to various degrees in digital radios for a very long time, so we are not talking about anything hard or costly to implement in prospective White Spaces devices (although standardizing things for guaranteed interoperability between vendors could take years).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Robert A. Rosenberg</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-910957</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert A. Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With Spectrum-sensing devices how does the receiver know what channel to listen to (ie: The sender finds an available channel and uses it but how does it tell the receiver where to listen). Also what happens when someone else fires up on the channel that is in use (such as wireless mikes/etc. who assume that they can use the channel without bothering to check or use Spectrum-sensing). I can see a scenario where the White Space device does the check and selects a channel that is not in use at that point in time only to have some wireless mike user fire up and then complain about interference. The only solution that will handle this is to assign a channel for wireless mikes/etc. and tell the White Space device it is off limits. This is what currently is done for medical monitors where that have their assigned channel and that channel and the guard bands are not allowed to be allocated to TV Stations.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Spectrum-sensing devices how does the receiver know what channel to listen to (ie: The sender finds an available channel and uses it but how does it tell the receiver where to listen). Also what happens when someone else fires up on the channel that is in use (such as wireless mikes/etc. who assume that they can use the channel without bothering to check or use Spectrum-sensing). I can see a scenario where the White Space device does the check and selects a channel that is not in use at that point in time only to have some wireless mike user fire up and then complain about interference. The only solution that will handle this is to assign a channel for wireless mikes/etc. and tell the White Space device it is off limits. This is what currently is done for medical monitors where that have their assigned channel and that channel and the guard bands are not allowed to be allocated to TV Stations.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Victor Blake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-910899</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Geolocation devices were considered in the specification of standards for this application (IEEE 802.22 WRAN). So -- while not the simplest or cheapest of technologies, it was anticipated technically and is not a significant surprise. Comapred to other barriers to entry, that one is by no means a show stopper!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geolocation devices were considered in the specification of standards for this application (IEEE 802.22 WRAN). So &#8212; while not the simplest or cheapest of technologies, it was anticipated technically and is not a significant surprise. Comapred to other barriers to entry, that one is by no means a show stopper!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bill Seymour</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/were-gonna-have-to-wait-a-year-for-white-spaces/#comment-910815</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Seymour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As a service provider for rural customers in coastal Oregon communities, all I can say this is great news! It is very difficult to get signals into remote areas using the existing open channels, even 900MHz doesn&#039;t particularly care for trees (especially wet trees), and dirt stops it cold. These frequencies should work much better for those fringe areas we&#039;ve been unable to serve so far.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a service provider for rural customers in coastal Oregon communities, all I can say this is great news! It is very difficult to get signals into remote areas using the existing open channels, even 900MHz doesn&#8217;t particularly care for trees (especially wet trees), and dirt stops it cold. These frequencies should work much better for those fringe areas we&#8217;ve been unable to serve so far.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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