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	<title>Comments on: Linden Lab Revises Rebellion-Causing Price Hike</title>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/linden-lab-revises-rebellion-land-price-hike/#comment-151763</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice article balming all on the user telling notheing were Linden Lab did fail and it looks to me like 70% are against it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article balming all on the user telling notheing were Linden Lab did fail and it looks to me like 70% are against it</p>
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		<title>By: Bliss</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/linden-lab-revises-rebellion-land-price-hike/#comment-151762</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bliss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d say it&#039;s more like 70 percent NOT satisfied.  &quot;In the revision, Openspace owners who comply with these regions’ original intent will be exempt from the increase, but will have to abide by technical limitations&quot;  WRONG.  When you are buying 3000 plus prim for 75 bucks a month, and now are told you get 750 prim instead for that 75 bucks, plus you can&#039;t run any scripts, number of people that can be on the area is HALVED, you re NOT exempt from the increase.  You are getting less than HALF of what you paid for, so you are paying more than TWICE as much for what you have.  -- I do not own an Open Space.  I own a regular Island.  But I was really close to buying an OS and know many people who did buy OS, and there is not one of them who invested money in good faith into Linden Labs who is not being ripped off in the most unethical set of policies as I&#039;ve ever seen occur in Second Life.   Shame shame SHAME on anyone trying to cover up the real truth of the matter.   If someone had done what LL has done to it&#039;s residents to you or your loved ones, I doubt you would say such nice things about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s more like 70 percent NOT satisfied.  &#8220;In the revision, Openspace owners who comply with these regions’ original intent will be exempt from the increase, but will have to abide by technical limitations&#8221;  WRONG.  When you are buying 3000 plus prim for 75 bucks a month, and now are told you get 750 prim instead for that 75 bucks, plus you can&#8217;t run any scripts, number of people that can be on the area is HALVED, you re NOT exempt from the increase.  You are getting less than HALF of what you paid for, so you are paying more than TWICE as much for what you have.  &#8212; I do not own an Open Space.  I own a regular Island.  But I was really close to buying an OS and know many people who did buy OS, and there is not one of them who invested money in good faith into Linden Labs who is not being ripped off in the most unethical set of policies as I&#8217;ve ever seen occur in Second Life.   Shame shame SHAME on anyone trying to cover up the real truth of the matter.   If someone had done what LL has done to it&#8217;s residents to you or your loved ones, I doubt you would say such nice things about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Social media shows its election steel : mateoland.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/linden-lab-revises-rebellion-land-price-hike/#comment-151761</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Social media shows its election steel : mateoland.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Election shocker: other stuff unrelated to the elections makes headlines Elsewhere on the interwebs: Linden Labs tries to quell a rebellion in Second Life. Wagner James Au writing for GigaOM describes Second Life users&#8217; response to the proposed price hikes as &#8220;a case study in the challenges inherent in managing user-generated content&#8220;. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Election shocker: other stuff unrelated to the elections makes headlines Elsewhere on the interwebs: Linden Labs tries to quell a rebellion in Second Life. Wagner James Au writing for GigaOM describes Second Life users&#8217; response to the proposed price hikes as &#8220;a case study in the challenges inherent in managing user-generated content&#8220;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody Fugazi</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/linden-lab-revises-rebellion-land-price-hike/#comment-151760</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nobody Fugazi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 05:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Via Ciaran Laval&#039;s blog on Your2ndPlace.com: The smoking gun.

http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=107206&amp;page=2&amp;pp=15]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Via Ciaran Laval&#8217;s blog on Your2ndPlace.com: The smoking gun.</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=107206&#038;page=2&#038;pp=15" rel="nofollow">http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=107206&#038;page=2&#038;pp=15</a></p>
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		<title>By: S Petrov</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/linden-lab-revises-rebellion-land-price-hike/#comment-151759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Petrov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;a case study in the challenges inherent in managing user-generated content&quot; --  I&#039;m sorry, but where are you getting this idea from?  It sounds rather inappropriate, given the circumstances.

Linden marketed these sims very aggressively last spring.  The company doubled their capabilities on their own initiative, which allowed them to make great profits.  These spaces come complete with 3,750 prims, permissions to rent them, and capacity for many, many avatars.  It is very disingenuous to expect that buyers would not rent them to other users for profit.  It is silly to think people would not place homes and businesses on them.  If you read about the history, Linden had previously inflated prices on privately owned full-prim islands (causing many renters to lose their investments).  These spaces were the most economical form of real estate in Second Life, but lots of real money was paid for them.  Of course we would build on them.

Linden is on legal thin ice because now it is rewriting the deal after these sims were paid for with $250 up front and $75/month for several months.  Countless hours have been put in.  They contain virtual homes, businesses making real dollars, real-world universities and non-profits settling on them, and whole communities built around them.   Many of the most creative and enthusiastic users of this service have lost faith.

There are alternative services beginning to take shape on the Internet.  Some people are simply voting with their feet...  Hopefully within a couple years there will be a serious alternative for people who want to enjoy the experiences SL has given us.  It is still a huge  tragedy that so much beautiful content is about to be lost; Linden could have simply invested in what was already selling well.  Most users report no unusual problems that could be traced to these sims.  SL has never been perfect for stability, but it is easier to believe that a constant addition of new bells and whistles is the problem.  That is, along with a failure to reinvest profits in basic features.

Now, by producing new rules out of thin air, Linden is making products already sold less valuable and denying its customers numerous uses.  In particular, they are planning to cut off use as rental property.  This will deny hundreds of us locations in Second Life, no matter what we were doing with them.  It also seems to hint that rather than fixing any so-called &quot;overuse,&quot; Linden may actually be trying to force everyone else out of the land business.

If this continues, how many experienced users will be left with the courage to place anything on land in Second Life?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a case study in the challenges inherent in managing user-generated content&#8221; &#8212;  I&#8217;m sorry, but where are you getting this idea from?  It sounds rather inappropriate, given the circumstances.</p>
<p>Linden marketed these sims very aggressively last spring.  The company doubled their capabilities on their own initiative, which allowed them to make great profits.  These spaces come complete with 3,750 prims, permissions to rent them, and capacity for many, many avatars.  It is very disingenuous to expect that buyers would not rent them to other users for profit.  It is silly to think people would not place homes and businesses on them.  If you read about the history, Linden had previously inflated prices on privately owned full-prim islands (causing many renters to lose their investments).  These spaces were the most economical form of real estate in Second Life, but lots of real money was paid for them.  Of course we would build on them.</p>
<p>Linden is on legal thin ice because now it is rewriting the deal after these sims were paid for with $250 up front and $75/month for several months.  Countless hours have been put in.  They contain virtual homes, businesses making real dollars, real-world universities and non-profits settling on them, and whole communities built around them.   Many of the most creative and enthusiastic users of this service have lost faith.</p>
<p>There are alternative services beginning to take shape on the Internet.  Some people are simply voting with their feet&#8230;  Hopefully within a couple years there will be a serious alternative for people who want to enjoy the experiences SL has given us.  It is still a huge  tragedy that so much beautiful content is about to be lost; Linden could have simply invested in what was already selling well.  Most users report no unusual problems that could be traced to these sims.  SL has never been perfect for stability, but it is easier to believe that a constant addition of new bells and whistles is the problem.  That is, along with a failure to reinvest profits in basic features.</p>
<p>Now, by producing new rules out of thin air, Linden is making products already sold less valuable and denying its customers numerous uses.  In particular, they are planning to cut off use as rental property.  This will deny hundreds of us locations in Second Life, no matter what we were doing with them.  It also seems to hint that rather than fixing any so-called &#8220;overuse,&#8221; Linden may actually be trying to force everyone else out of the land business.</p>
<p>If this continues, how many experienced users will be left with the courage to place anything on land in Second Life?</p>
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		<title>By: Wagner James Au</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/linden-lab-revises-rebellion-land-price-hike/#comment-151758</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wagner James Au]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, Dex, since I posted this looks like the opinion&#039;s flipped to 46% against.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Dex, since I posted this looks like the opinion&#8217;s flipped to 46% against.</p>
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		<title>By: Dex</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/11/05/linden-lab-revises-rebellion-land-price-hike/#comment-151757</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;describing themselves as satisfied&quot; I believe its changed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;describing themselves as satisfied&#8221; I believe its changed</p>
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