Comments on: Just Saying: Google Didn’t Start In a Downturn http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:38:51 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: As perdas de emprego: O Vale do Silício: Perspectivas « ATer: Criação de Sites http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-925271 As perdas de emprego: O Vale do Silício: Perspectivas « ATer: Criação de Sites Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:32:29 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-925271 <p>[...] Em outras palavras, se você está realmente incrível, você pode conseguir um emprego (com uma remuneração corte). Entretanto, durante a revista Fortune, os pessimistas estão especulando vez que esta tecnologia não irá salvar-nos desta desaceleração, alegando que as dot-com busto nem sequer foi assim tão mau porque é quando o Google foi formado. [...]</p> [...] Em outras palavras, se você está realmente incrível, você pode conseguir um emprego (com uma remuneração corte). Entretanto, durante a revista Fortune, os pessimistas estão especulando vez que esta tecnologia não irá salvar-nos desta desaceleração, alegando que as dot-com busto nem sequer foi assim tão mau porque é quando o Google foi formado. [...]

]]> By: Job Losses: The Silicon Valley Perspective http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-925170 Job Losses: The Silicon Valley Perspective Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:16:25 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-925170 <p>[...] In other words, if you’re really awesome, you might get a job (with a pay cut). Meanwhile, over at Fortune, the pessimists are speculating that this time technology won’t save us from this downturn, alleging that the dot-com bust wasn’t even this bad because that’s when Google was formed. [...]</p> [...] In other words, if you’re really awesome, you might get a job (with a pay cut). Meanwhile, over at Fortune, the pessimists are speculating that this time technology won’t save us from this downturn, alleging that the dot-com bust wasn’t even this bad because that’s when Google was formed. [...]

]]> By: 21st Century Spirituality · Hyperstream of 2008-10-30 http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-912603 21st Century Spirituality · Hyperstream of 2008-10-30 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:39:08 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-912603 <p>[...] mushin published a blog post. Hutch Carpenter: Just Saying: Google Didn’t Start In a Downturn (via Google Reader) [...]</p> [...] mushin published a blog post. Hutch Carpenter: Just Saying: Google Didn’t Start In a Downturn (via Google Reader) [...]

]]> By: Shadowlayer http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-910074 Shadowlayer Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:38:02 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-910074 <p>The 'myth' is pretty much a feel-good statement from the industry, so people will keep trying.</p> <p>And BTW, both Microsoft and Apple were founded in the mid-70s, just a couple years after the oil embargo and right during some of the worst days of that crisis.</p> The ‘myth’ is pretty much a feel-good statement from the industry, so people will keep trying.

And BTW, both Microsoft and Apple were founded in the mid-70s, just a couple years after the oil embargo and right during some of the worst days of that crisis.

]]> By: Google, la crisis y la creatividad » El Blog de Enrique Dans http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-909829 Google, la crisis y la creatividad » El Blog de Enrique Dans Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:51:26 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-909829 <p>[...] antes de que se conviertan en leyendas urbanas, y Om Malik lo hace en esta entrada: “Just saying: Google didn’t start in a downturn“. Y es que efectivamente, muchas personas, queriendo apoyar la imagen de que las crisis [...]</p> [...] antes de que se conviertan en leyendas urbanas, y Om Malik lo hace en esta entrada: “Just saying: Google didn’t start in a downturn“. Y es que efectivamente, muchas personas, queriendo apoyar la imagen de que las crisis [...]

]]> By: Roundup: Another record for cleantech, economy contracting, music news and more » VentureBeat http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-909297 Roundup: Another record for cleantech, economy contracting, music news and more » VentureBeat Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:38:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-909297 <p>[...] like to point to Google as a company that started in the downturn and went on to stunning success. GigaOm shreds that “modern day [...]</p> [...] like to point to Google as a company that started in the downturn and went on to stunning success. GigaOm shreds that “modern day [...]

]]> By: TechPuree http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-909241 TechPuree Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:09:48 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-909241 <p>The write-up is quite logical and real in the backdrop of facts presented by you. While the Oracle success story certainly seems to be of the "genre" that you want to highlight and the Google success story may not be actually that of a startup getting success in downturn.</p> The write-up is quite logical and real in the backdrop of facts presented by you. While the Oracle success story certainly seems to be of the “genre” that you want to highlight and the Google success story may not be actually that of a startup getting success in downturn.

]]> By: fanboy http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-909230 fanboy Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:43:00 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-909230 <p>ipod (2001) / itunes (2001) / itunes store (2003)</p> ipod (2001) / itunes (2001) / itunes store (2003)

]]> By: Kevin Kelleher http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-909229 Kevin Kelleher Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:36:39 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-909229 <p>erp, sorry. <em>Google</em> not Googke. More coffee, please.</p> erp, sorry. Google not Googke. More coffee, please.

]]> By: Kevin Kelleher http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-909228 Kevin Kelleher Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:35:28 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-909228 <p>Om,</p> <p>Good point about Googke, but Oracle was founded in 1977, between recessions. While it's true the economy was far from terrific and the sock market was going sideways in 1977, that's not the same as saying it was founded in a downturn. A list of recessions can be found here:</p> <p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions</p> <p>I mention this because it came up in a recent thread here ( http://gigaom.com/2008/09/30/how-wall-street-can-hurt-silicon-valley/#comment-902306 ). Some tech giants were founded in recessions and downturns, but just as many weren't.</p> <p>More important, the ones that were had their starts at the <I>end</I> of recessions or depressions. Many economists are expecting this downturn to last several years, so if you follow this logic - and I don't think you should - one should wait three or four years to found a start-up.</p> <p>Kevin</p> Om,

Good point about Googke, but Oracle was founded in 1977, between recessions. While it’s true the economy was far from terrific and the sock market was going sideways in 1977, that’s not the same as saying it was founded in a downturn. A list of recessions can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions

I mention this because it came up in a recent thread here ( http://gigaom.com/2008/09/30/how-wall-street-can-hurt-silicon-valley/#comment-902306 ). Some tech giants were founded in recessions and downturns, but just as many weren’t.

More important, the ones that were had their starts at the end of recessions or depressions. Many economists are expecting this downturn to last several years, so if you follow this logic – and I don’t think you should – one should wait three or four years to found a start-up.

Kevin

]]> By: Just Saying: Google Didn’t Start In a Downturn - GigaOM | Marketing 2.1 http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-909204 Just Saying: Google Didn’t Start In a Downturn - GigaOM | Marketing 2.1 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:06:00 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-909204 <p>[...] Just Saying: Google Didn’t Start In a Downturn - GigaOM. [...]</p> [...] Just Saying: Google Didn’t Start In a Downturn – GigaOM. [...]

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-909190 Om Malik Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:11:36 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-909190 <p>@Ron</p> <p>You can nitpick on the details but it is clear that the myth of google being this great thing that started in a downturn is just that -- a myth. the idea of adwords well, i don't have the precise date on when it became live, but the idea wasn't "downturn" inspired. It just happened to coincide with the bad times and it was the only ad-model people were willing to experiment with.</p> @Ron

You can nitpick on the details but it is clear that the myth of google being this great thing that started in a downturn is just that — a myth. the idea of adwords well, i don’t have the precise date on when it became live, but the idea wasn’t “downturn” inspired. It just happened to coincide with the bad times and it was the only ad-model people were willing to experiment with.

]]> By: Ninja http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-909186 Ninja Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:03:01 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-909186 <p>Extreme innovations have not much to do with downturns. Most of the time it is need based. In silicon valley, most of the companies are just to expensive .. I have seen so many startup having 10-15 million dollar pumped in .. All they develop is widgets for facebook or some small game for i-phone. I don't think startup needs so much money to innovate whether in good time or bad time. I really endorse view of Paul Graham who stress on keeping operating cost as low as possible.</p> Extreme innovations have not much to do with downturns. Most of the time it is need based. In silicon valley, most of the companies are just to expensive .. I have seen so many startup having 10-15 million dollar pumped in .. All they develop is widgets for facebook or some small game for i-phone. I don’t think startup needs so much money to innovate whether in good time or bad time. I really endorse view of Paul Graham who stress on keeping operating cost as low as possible.

]]> By: Ron Garret http://gigaom.com/2008/10/29/google-did-not-start-in-a-downturn/#comment-909141 Ron Garret Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:16:18 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=27249#comment-909141 <p>The dotcom crash started in March 2000, not 2001. AdWords was started three months later, in June 2000, and launched three months after that. So while you are right that Google didn't actually start in a downturn, it did achieve profitability during a downturn.</p> The dotcom crash started in March 2000, not 2001. AdWords was started three months later, in June 2000, and launched three months after that. So while you are right that Google didn’t actually start in a downturn, it did achieve profitability during a downturn.

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