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		<title>By: &#8220;Cloud 2 Step&#8221; &#171; Distant Computing &#8212; No Server Huggers</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/17/let%e2%80%99s-all-dance-the-cloud-two-step/#comment-972928</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Cloud 2 Step&#8221; &#171; Distant Computing &#8212; No Server Huggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] is a different slant on the idea of a former co-worker of mine, Allen Leinwand, who wrote &#8220;Letâ€™s All Dance the Cloud Two-Step&#8220;. In many use cases, IF you have good capacity management, internal resources are frequently [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a different slant on the idea of a former co-worker of mine, Allen Leinwand, who wrote &#8220;Letâ€™s All Dance the Cloud Two-Step&#8220;. In many use cases, IF you have good capacity management, internal resources are frequently [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bob Sullebarger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sullebarger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The idea of 2-step make complete sense to me.  No doubt enterprises need a migration strategy to the cloud that manages risk.  But isn&#039;t the cloud is going to catch fire first with mid size companies who can do this more readily with less risk?  No surprise that the Goldman Sachs survey found cloud computing to be a low priority, because that&#039;s probably not the sweet spot.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of 2-step make complete sense to me.  No doubt enterprises need a migration strategy to the cloud that manages risk.  But isn&#8217;t the cloud is going to catch fire first with mid size companies who can do this more readily with less risk?  No surprise that the Goldman Sachs survey found cloud computing to be a low priority, because that&#8217;s probably not the sweet spot.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Startups HP Should Buy to Win the War Against Cisco</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/17/let%e2%80%99s-all-dance-the-cloud-two-step/#comment-925280</link>
		<dc:creator>Startups HP Should Buy to Win the War Against Cisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] reach storage and compute power in the cloud in a scalable manner, those enabling what I call the Cloud Two-Step. In the storage battleground, HP should move to provide outsourced storage clouds, perhaps by [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: IBM Gives Cloud Computing a Seal of Approval - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/17/let%e2%80%99s-all-dance-the-cloud-two-step/#comment-914636</link>
		<dc:creator>IBM Gives Cloud Computing a Seal of Approval - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Stacey Higginbotham  &#124; Sunday, November 23, 2008 &#124; 9:01 PM PT &#124; 7 comments    IBM wants to corner the market on cloud computing, from providing the physical servers that make up a cloud to offering services for those unwilling to build out their own. Today it announced plans to move further into the fog by creating a kind of Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval for cloud computing. IBM calls it theÂ Resilient Cloud Validation program. Big Blue hopes to work with cloud providers to offer a program that reassures businesses that a cloud doesn&#8217;t go down often as well as helping answer other questions that keep businesses from trusting in the cloud model. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stacey Higginbotham  | Sunday, November 23, 2008 | 9:01 PM PT | 7 comments    IBM wants to corner the market on cloud computing, from providing the physical servers that make up a cloud to offering services for those unwilling to build out their own. Today it announced plans to move further into the fog by creating a kind of Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval for cloud computing. IBM calls it theÂ Resilient Cloud Validation program. Big Blue hopes to work with cloud providers to offer a program that reassures businesses that a cloud doesn&#8217;t go down often as well as helping answer other questions that keep businesses from trusting in the cloud model. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kaizen Bits :: Partly Cloudy Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaizen Bits :: Partly Cloudy Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] This article about Microsoft and Google approaches to the Cloud are pumping blood again, together with this new Seal of Approval: &#8220;IBM wants to corner the market on cloud computing, from providing the physical servers that make up a cloud to offering services for those unwilling to build out their own. Today it announced plans to move further into the fog by creating a kind of Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval for cloud computing. IBM calls it theÂ Resilient Cloud Validation program. Big Blue hopes to work with cloud providers to offer a program that reassures businesses that a cloud doesnâ€™t go down often as well as helping answer other questions that keep businesses from trusting in the cloud model&#8220;. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This article about Microsoft and Google approaches to the Cloud are pumping blood again, together with this new Seal of Approval: &#8220;IBM wants to corner the market on cloud computing, from providing the physical servers that make up a cloud to offering services for those unwilling to build out their own. Today it announced plans to move further into the fog by creating a kind of Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval for cloud computing. IBM calls it theÂ Resilient Cloud Validation program. Big Blue hopes to work with cloud providers to offer a program that reassures businesses that a cloud doesnâ€™t go down often as well as helping answer other questions that keep businesses from trusting in the cloud model&#8220;. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Let??s All Dance the Cloud Two-Step - GigaOM &#124; Prosumer News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Let??s All Dance the Cloud Two-Step - GigaOM &#124; Prosumer News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David, Business Technology Roundtable</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/17/let%e2%80%99s-all-dance-the-cloud-two-step/#comment-906002</link>
		<dc:creator>David, Business Technology Roundtable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Allan, perhaps it&#039;s not the CIOs that stand up and take notice, it&#039;s more likely the CEOs who get the idea from their peer group, and then give their CIO some &quot;words of encouragement.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, rather than apply an outsource model, it&#039;s more likely to be selective out-tasking. Meaning, these targeted solutions can coexist with in-house solutions -- there&#039;s no need to confront the enterprise IT leadership with the notion of dramatic changes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said, the real bonus for a weary CIO isn&#039;t the economics, although the cost-reduction is welcome. It&#039;s the freeing up of their time -- that&#039;s gained by out-tasking basic infrastructure, and thereby removing the drudgery of operations and maintenance headaches.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Moreover, some CIOs are eager to demonstrate to their Line of Business heads that they can deliver a project with meaningful new strategic competitive impact. That takes leadership talent, an investment of time and flawless execution.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allan, perhaps it&#8217;s not the CIOs that stand up and take notice, it&#8217;s more likely the CEOs who get the idea from their peer group, and then give their CIO some &#8220;words of encouragement.&#8221;</p>

<p>Also, rather than apply an outsource model, it&#8217;s more likely to be selective out-tasking. Meaning, these targeted solutions can coexist with in-house solutions &#8212; there&#8217;s no need to confront the enterprise IT leadership with the notion of dramatic changes.</p>

<p>That said, the real bonus for a weary CIO isn&#8217;t the economics, although the cost-reduction is welcome. It&#8217;s the freeing up of their time &#8212; that&#8217;s gained by out-tasking basic infrastructure, and thereby removing the drudgery of operations and maintenance headaches.</p>

<p>Moreover, some CIOs are eager to demonstrate to their Line of Business heads that they can deliver a project with meaningful new strategic competitive impact. That takes leadership talent, an investment of time and flawless execution.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ted Murphy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/17/let%e2%80%99s-all-dance-the-cloud-two-step/#comment-905743</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Developing an application to run in a cloud is alluring, because you feel that you are automatically creating a scalable product.  I have several concerns, however.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t trust the marketing angle.  I suspect that &quot;cloud&quot; is an attractive euphemism for &quot;no longer a problem on planet earth&quot;.  That, of course, is not possible.  Technology development always presents difficult problems.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hear that &quot;the cloud does not like databases&quot;.  The cloud does a good job providing vast amounts of cpu and storage, but it does a poor job with the kind of bottlenecks often found in database access.  If true, this would put the lie to the whole concept (in my opinion).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Developing an application to run in a cloud is alluring, because you feel that you are automatically creating a scalable product.  I have several concerns, however.</p>

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<li><p>I don&#8217;t trust the marketing angle.  I suspect that &#8220;cloud&#8221; is an attractive euphemism for &#8220;no longer a problem on planet earth&#8221;.  That, of course, is not possible.  Technology development always presents difficult problems.</p></li>
<li><p>I hear that &#8220;the cloud does not like databases&#8221;.  The cloud does a good job providing vast amounts of cpu and storage, but it does a poor job with the kind of bottlenecks often found in database access.  If true, this would put the lie to the whole concept (in my opinion).</p></li>
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		<title>By: Bob Lozano</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/17/let%e2%80%99s-all-dance-the-cloud-two-step/#comment-905572</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Lozano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;So enjoyable, in fact, that sometimes I forget to correctly enter html in blog comments - sorry about that!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So enjoyable, in fact, that sometimes I forget to correctly enter html in blog comments &#8211; sorry about that!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bob Lozano</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/17/let%e2%80%99s-all-dance-the-cloud-two-step/#comment-905568</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Lozano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We are active in the enterprise-grade cloud space (both in public and private clouds), and I tend to agree with the general premise of this post that enterprises gain their confidence in stages.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems fairly clear that economic challenges can motivate strapped organizations to consider new options. In fact, I&#039;m elaborating on that a bit in a two-part post, of which the first post is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.appistry.com/blogs/bob/meltdown-2008-part-1-how-i-learned-love-chaos&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (and the second will follow very soon).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For a number of customers a strong need to scale has been the driver that caused them to look at private clouds (that was true at both FedEx and GeoEye - a provider of satellite imagery to Google and the US intelligence community, among others).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So in terms of this post, that was what drove them to &quot;Step 1&quot;. Whether they take the second step or not almost doesn&#039;t matter - they&#039;ve already realized substantial cost, scale, flexibility, and reliability benefits from adopting private cloud technologies and operational philosophies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;One More Thing&lt;/a&gt;
This brings me to what may be the most important point. This post, like so many of the conversations in the industry, miss what is probably the single most important factor in an enterprise actually adopting cloud computing - &lt;em&gt;the applications&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Indeed, what about the applications?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well it turns out that while so much of the conversation has been around extending virtualization models, creating operational and billing models that can enable the flexibility whose promise is so attractive - all good things - what most enterprises eventually come around to (or in fact start from!) are the applications themselves.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In other words, how do I cloud enable the applications that I really want to run?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is true, of course, whether the applications is going to be deployed in my own private cloud or perhaps one of the increasingly capable public cloud choices.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So that&#039;s why we focus on cloud-enabling applications, which as you may guess has become quite enjoyable!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are active in the enterprise-grade cloud space (both in public and private clouds), and I tend to agree with the general premise of this post that enterprises gain their confidence in stages.</p>

<p>It seems fairly clear that economic challenges can motivate strapped organizations to consider new options. In fact, I&#8217;m elaborating on that a bit in a two-part post, of which the first post is <a href="http://www.appistry.com/blogs/bob/meltdown-2008-part-1-how-i-learned-love-chaos" rel="nofollow">here</a> (and the second will follow very soon).</p>

<p>For a number of customers a strong need to scale has been the driver that caused them to look at private clouds (that was true at both FedEx and GeoEye &#8211; a provider of satellite imagery to Google and the US intelligence community, among others).</p>

<p>So in terms of this post, that was what drove them to &#8220;Step 1&#8243;. Whether they take the second step or not almost doesn&#8217;t matter &#8211; they&#8217;ve already realized substantial cost, scale, flexibility, and reliability benefits from adopting private cloud technologies and operational philosophies.</p>

<p><b>One More Thing
This brings me to what may be the most important point. This post, like so many of the conversations in the industry, miss what is probably the single most important factor in an enterprise actually adopting cloud computing &#8211; <em>the applications</em>.</b></p>

<p>Indeed, what about the applications?</p>

<p>Well it turns out that while so much of the conversation has been around extending virtualization models, creating operational and billing models that can enable the flexibility whose promise is so attractive &#8211; all good things &#8211; what most enterprises eventually come around to (or in fact start from!) are the applications themselves.</p>

<p>In other words, how do I cloud enable the applications that I really want to run?</p>

<p>This is true, of course, whether the applications is going to be deployed in my own private cloud or perhaps one of the increasingly capable public cloud choices.</p>

<p>So that&#8217;s why we focus on cloud-enabling applications, which as you may guess has become quite enjoyable!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Derek Cheng</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/17/let%e2%80%99s-all-dance-the-cloud-two-step/#comment-905530</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Cheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unlike the rapid web world where we can sneeze and deploy new services overnight, enterprise IT is not exactly constantly pushing technology to its limits. According to Goldman Sachs in their July 2008 IT Sales Opportunity survey of 100 CIOs, less than 2% of them said cloud computing was a priority. In fact, it was ranked last in a series of initiatives.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They have one primary edict: Keep the Lights On and No One Dies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To expect them to embrace and deploy new technology comes along is going to make VCs very angry with their portfolio companies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The transition to the cloud is going to take time and, as you indicated, a testing of waters: one or two fringe applications to start, maybe a storage unit here and there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But no doubt that the economics will drive more adoption at this point (as illustrated in our PaaS-onomics whitepaper: http://www.longjump.com/paas-offers/paas-whitepaper.htm)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike the rapid web world where we can sneeze and deploy new services overnight, enterprise IT is not exactly constantly pushing technology to its limits. According to Goldman Sachs in their July 2008 IT Sales Opportunity survey of 100 CIOs, less than 2% of them said cloud computing was a priority. In fact, it was ranked last in a series of initiatives.</p>

<p>They have one primary edict: Keep the Lights On and No One Dies.</p>

<p>To expect them to embrace and deploy new technology comes along is going to make VCs very angry with their portfolio companies.</p>

<p>The transition to the cloud is going to take time and, as you indicated, a testing of waters: one or two fringe applications to start, maybe a storage unit here and there.</p>

<p>But no doubt that the economics will drive more adoption at this point (as illustrated in our PaaS-onomics whitepaper: <a href="http://www.longjump.com/paas-offers/paas-whitepaper.htm)" rel="nofollow">http://www.longjump.com/paas-offers/paas-whitepaper.htm)</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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