Comments on: Skype & the Cost of Playing in China http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:00:29 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: song yearlong » Loose Ends - Skype and the Great Firewall of China, VON/Virgo Deal, Oz/Nokia Deal http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-905367 song yearlong » Loose Ends - Skype and the Great Firewall of China, VON/Virgo Deal, Oz/Nokia Deal Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:06:38 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-905367 <p>[...] start first with Phil Wolff’s posting on Skype Journal, then Om Malik, and I’m sure you’ll find many others from there. I should also add this is not a new [...]</p> [...] start first with Phil Wolff’s posting on Skype Journal, then Om Malik, and I’m sure you’ll find many others from there. I should also add this is not a new [...]

]]> By: song verse » Blog Archive » Loose Ends - Skype and the Great Firewall of China, VON/Virgo Deal, Oz/Nokia Deal http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-905311 song verse » Blog Archive » Loose Ends - Skype and the Great Firewall of China, VON/Virgo Deal, Oz/Nokia Deal Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:51:28 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-905311 <p>[...] start first with Phil Wolff’s posting on Skype Journal, then Om Malik, and I’m sure you’ll find many others from there. I should also add this is not a new [...]</p> [...] start first with Phil Wolff’s posting on Skype Journal, then Om Malik, and I’m sure you’ll find many others from there. I should also add this is not a new [...]

]]> By: Jan Geirnaert http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-904092 Jan Geirnaert Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:21:19 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-904092 <p>What is the real reason that the vice president and executive director of Tom Group, CEO and director of Tom.com and director of Tom-eBay and Mr. Wang have resigned as the chief executive officer and director of TOM Online Inc (about one month ago) ? see http://www.skype-gadgets.com/webtown/2008/10/what-is-the-r-1.html</p> What is the real reason that the vice president and executive director of Tom Group, CEO and director of Tom.com and director of Tom-eBay and Mr. Wang have resigned as the chief executive officer and director of TOM Online Inc (about one month ago) ? see http://www.skype-gadgets.com/webtown/2008/10/what-is-the-r-1.html

]]> By: Jan Geirnaert http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-904091 Jan Geirnaert Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:18:01 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-904091 <p>can you explain what is safe and secure about the dual login without notification feature ? can you explain why skype account are immediately active without any further external authentication. nothing safe about that my friend...</p> <p>anybody can be anybody over and over on the skype user cloud. no wonder you have 350 million users, it's probably a bit less than 350 users, but more like 350 million accounts created by the same users over and over.</p> <p>also explain how skype cooperates with other countries to comply with local laws and regulations on the matter of wiretapping... it should be made clear by skype to all skype users that skype conversations can easily by tapped and monitored.</p> <p>if so send me the transcript of my five latest private adn secure chats :)</p> can you explain what is safe and secure about the dual login without notification feature ? can you explain why skype account are immediately active without any further external authentication. nothing safe about that my friend…

anybody can be anybody over and over on the skype user cloud. no wonder you have 350 million users, it’s probably a bit less than 350 users, but more like 350 million accounts created by the same users over and over.

also explain how skype cooperates with other countries to comply with local laws and regulations on the matter of wiretapping… it should be made clear by skype to all skype users that skype conversations can easily by tapped and monitored.

if so send me the transcript of my five latest private adn secure chats :)

]]> By: Peter Parkes (Skype Blogger) http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-903963 Peter Parkes (Skype Blogger) Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:49:50 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-903963 <p>@tsx – just to clarify, the issues highlighted in the Citizen Lab report affect only the TOM-Skype software distributed by TOM in China. Standard versions of Skype are unaffected, and Skype-to-Skype conversations (voice, video, chat, file transfers) between users of standard versions of Skype remain completely secure and private.</p> @tsx – just to clarify, the issues highlighted in the Citizen Lab report affect only the TOM-Skype software distributed by TOM in China. Standard versions of Skype are unaffected, and Skype-to-Skype conversations (voice, video, chat, file transfers) between users of standard versions of Skype remain completely secure and private.

]]> By: krizdabz blogs :: Podkāsts “Pupu Mizas” #2 http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-903058 krizdabz blogs :: Podkāsts “Pupu Mizas” #2 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:02:50 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-903058 <p>[...] Skype 4.0 Beta 2 un problēmas Ķīnā. [...]</p> [...] Skype 4.0 Beta 2 un problēmas Ķīnā. [...]

]]> By: GEARFUSE » Afternoon Linkage for October 3rd, 2008 http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-902822 GEARFUSE » Afternoon Linkage for October 3rd, 2008 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:26:50 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-902822 <p>[...] Skype is kanoodling with China… [...]</p> [...] Skype is kanoodling with China… [...]

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-902777 Om Malik Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:49:54 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-902777 <p>@Marshall</p> <p>I think you are right about the "self respect" issue and I don't think anyone really cares. They are all happy doing what is right for the wallet. I wouldn't expect them to do any different.</p> @Marshall

I think you are right about the “self respect” issue and I don’t think anyone really cares. They are all happy doing what is right for the wallet. I wouldn’t expect them to do any different.

]]> By: Privacy on the Web? No, Thank You. - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-902776 Privacy on the Web? No, Thank You. - GigaOM Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:17:04 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-902776 <p>[...] Higginbotham, Friday, October 3, 2008 at 11:16 AM PT Comments (0) For all the outrage over the Chinese government spying on Skype users, when it comes to privacy, consumers value the talk rather than walk the walk. We often don’t [...]</p> [...] Higginbotham, Friday, October 3, 2008 at 11:16 AM PT Comments (0) For all the outrage over the Chinese government spying on Skype users, when it comes to privacy, consumers value the talk rather than walk the walk. We often don’t [...]

]]> By: Marshall Kirkpatrick http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-902743 Marshall Kirkpatrick Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:08:24 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-902743 <p>I missed the part of the official response that said "we're not happy about this, we don't think it's right." I guess you don't say that about the mob though, huh? Good analogy. Wonder how the self-respect holds up in situations like this.</p> I missed the part of the official response that said “we’re not happy about this, we don’t think it’s right.” I guess you don’t say that about the mob though, huh? Good analogy. Wonder how the self-respect holds up in situations like this.

]]> By: bob walker http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-902741 bob walker Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:45:16 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-902741 <p>I dislike the idea of spying, but if China does it then it is a loss of privacy and evil. If the USA does it, then it is fighting terrorism. How about closing the borders and forget spying on loyal citizens?</p> <p>Anyways they all do it</p> <p>bob</p> I dislike the idea of spying, but if China does it then it is a loss of privacy and evil. If the USA does it, then it is fighting terrorism. How about closing the borders and forget spying on loyal citizens?

Anyways they all do it

bob

]]> By: tsx http://gigaom.com/2008/10/03/skype-the-cost-of-playing-in-china/#comment-902734 tsx Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:56:50 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=23561#comment-902734 <p>And you really think that Skype has no backdoor that allow (some) government entities to spy conversations or messages ? Especially as there are very few (if any) complaints from law enforcement agencies ...</p> <p>e.g. Skype president is quoted saying Skype "cooperates fully with all lawful requests from relevant authorities.". They also say they did not receive any subpoena or court order ... but nothing about "security letters"</p> <p>(http://www.enquirerherald.com/369/story/350738.html)</p> And you really think that Skype has no backdoor that allow (some) government entities to spy conversations or messages ? Especially as there are very few (if any) complaints from law enforcement agencies …

e.g. Skype president is quoted saying Skype “cooperates fully with all lawful requests from relevant authorities.”. They also say they did not receive any subpoena or court order … but nothing about “security letters”

(http://www.enquirerherald.com/369/story/350738.html)

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