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		<title>By: Amazon Opens Windows For All, and EC2 Graduates</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148536</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amazon Opens Windows For All, and EC2 Graduates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] that was fast. Amazon Web Services, which said three weeks ago it would begin offering Windows on its Elastic Compute Cloud in closed beta, has opened the beta service up for all. Even bigger [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that was fast. Amazon Web Services, which said three weeks ago it would begin offering Windows on its Elastic Compute Cloud in closed beta, has opened the beta service up for all. Even bigger [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amazon Opens Windows For All, and EC2 Graduates - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148535</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amazon Opens Windows For All, and EC2 Graduates - GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Windows For All, and EC2&#160;Graduates &#8212;  Wow, that was fast. Amazon Web Services, which said three weeks ago it would begin offering Windows on its Elastic Compute Cloud in closed beta, has opened the beta service up for all. Even bigger [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Windows For All, and EC2&nbsp;Graduates &mdash;  Wow, that was fast. Amazon Web Services, which said three weeks ago it would begin offering Windows on its Elastic Compute Cloud in closed beta, has opened the beta service up for all. Even bigger [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey Higginbotham</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148534</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacey Higginbotham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damon, Vogels says in his blog that EC2 is running windows, but since it&#039;s in beta, not everyone has access to it. So I suppose EC2 has Windows now, and customers WILL get it later :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damon, Vogels says in his blog that EC2 is running windows, but since it&#8217;s in beta, not everyone has access to it. So I suppose EC2 has Windows now, and customers WILL get it later :)</p>
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		<title>By: damon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148533</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[damon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SHOULD&#039;nt this read &quot;Will get Windows&quot;

It&#039;s not there yet, sometime this fall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHOULD&#8217;nt this read &#8220;Will get Windows&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not there yet, sometime this fall.</p>
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		<title>By: Trey</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Micheal,

Thank you for your responses:
a) We currently use a fully managed hosting provider (direct competitor to ServePath)
b) We have a hardware based firewall (CISCO)
c) This also serves as our VPN

The native Windows firewall is a bit mickey-mouse as compared to Cisco. This also helps us with regards to keeping some of of larger customers happy. Simply knowing there is a hardware based FW in place is helpful.

With regards to the DHCP IP issue. In the trial run, we added a few servers and they did not come online (we could not connect to them). The customer service dept could not figure out why the devices were not able to get an IP address.

Note:
We are also not sure about how managed back-up works. Access to the back-up is another concern.
In order for us to trust the cloud (not just gogrid) but all providers.

1) real-time support (like a fully managed hosting provider) is needed
2) The people on the phone talking to us must know how to deal with every item related to the server and infrastructure
3) Hardware based FW must be in place
4) Ability to have physical access to the servers/devices (not sure how this will work OR if it is even possible)

Note: if we have a problem with our servers today, we simply call our provider and they can have someone physically  looking at our machine within minutes.

I understand these are items you may be working on BUT it would be helpful to us.

Our hosting bill is $20k + per month. We would love to move to the cloud as our costs would go down and we can add servers within minutes. This is the future but is it ready? is it the real deal?

With regards to RAM/processor: it would be great if we could get

i) 8 GB RAM + Dual Core
ii) 8 GB RAM + 2 Dual Core Processors
iii) 16 GB RAM + 2 Dual Core Processors

Sorry for the long post]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micheal,</p>
<p>Thank you for your responses:<br />
a) We currently use a fully managed hosting provider (direct competitor to ServePath)<br />
b) We have a hardware based firewall (CISCO)<br />
c) This also serves as our VPN</p>
<p>The native Windows firewall is a bit mickey-mouse as compared to Cisco. This also helps us with regards to keeping some of of larger customers happy. Simply knowing there is a hardware based FW in place is helpful.</p>
<p>With regards to the DHCP IP issue. In the trial run, we added a few servers and they did not come online (we could not connect to them). The customer service dept could not figure out why the devices were not able to get an IP address.</p>
<p>Note:<br />
We are also not sure about how managed back-up works. Access to the back-up is another concern.<br />
In order for us to trust the cloud (not just gogrid) but all providers.</p>
<p>1) real-time support (like a fully managed hosting provider) is needed<br />
2) The people on the phone talking to us must know how to deal with every item related to the server and infrastructure<br />
3) Hardware based FW must be in place<br />
4) Ability to have physical access to the servers/devices (not sure how this will work OR if it is even possible)</p>
<p>Note: if we have a problem with our servers today, we simply call our provider and they can have someone physically  looking at our machine within minutes.</p>
<p>I understand these are items you may be working on BUT it would be helpful to us.</p>
<p>Our hosting bill is $20k + per month. We would love to move to the cloud as our costs would go down and we can add servers within minutes. This is the future but is it ready? is it the real deal?</p>
<p>With regards to RAM/processor: it would be great if we could get</p>
<p>i) 8 GB RAM + Dual Core<br />
ii) 8 GB RAM + 2 Dual Core Processors<br />
iii) 16 GB RAM + 2 Dual Core Processors</p>
<p>Sorry for the long post</p>
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		<title>By: jonahstein</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148531</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Michael Sheehan

You are correct in that AppLogic 2.45 is in beta. (my bad)  What I was trying to say is that unlike EC2, which is in limited release until the end of the year, 3tera&#039;s windows solution is available to everyone now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michael Sheehan</p>
<p>You are correct in that AppLogic 2.45 is in beta. (my bad)  What I was trying to say is that unlike EC2, which is in limited release until the end of the year, 3tera&#8217;s windows solution is available to everyone now.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Sheehan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148530</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Sheehan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jonahstein,

Just a quick FYI about the 3tera announcement, according to their press release, their offering is a beta as well (&quot;announces beta availability of AppLogic™ 2.4&quot;). Whether it&#039;s a beta or not shouldn&#039;t matter (Gmail is a beta as well, right?)

@Trey,

To quickly address your points:
1) Software firewalls (linux/windows) was what GoGrid launched with. Additional hardware components are in the works
2) Not sure I understand this point
3) Support is free to GoGrid users and with various tiers available depending on the issue. Depending on the nature of the issue, different support personnel have different layers of support access to GoGrid.

What RAM sizes are you looking for?

-Michael]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jonahstein,</p>
<p>Just a quick FYI about the 3tera announcement, according to their press release, their offering is a beta as well (&#8220;announces beta availability of AppLogic™ 2.4&#8243;). Whether it&#8217;s a beta or not shouldn&#8217;t matter (Gmail is a beta as well, right?)</p>
<p>@Trey,</p>
<p>To quickly address your points:<br />
1) Software firewalls (linux/windows) was what GoGrid launched with. Additional hardware components are in the works<br />
2) Not sure I understand this point<br />
3) Support is free to GoGrid users and with various tiers available depending on the issue. Depending on the nature of the issue, different support personnel have different layers of support access to GoGrid.</p>
<p>What RAM sizes are you looking for?</p>
<p>-Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Amazon Does Windows &#124; Shannon Whitley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148529</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amazon Does Windows &#124; Shannon Whitley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] received an email from Amazon this morning.&#160; They will be adding Windows server support to EC2.&#160; I&#8217;ve never looked at EC2 before, but this move will probably change that.&#160; I [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: jonahstein</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148528</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonahstein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is amazing to watch not one but TWO companies beating Microsoft to the punch in the same day by delivery Cloud Computing for Windows Server. Amazon&#039;s cloud announcement stole the thunder, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.informationweek.com/news/services/saas/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210605074&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Information Week &lt;/a&gt; reported earlier today that a little know start up, 3tera, http://www.3tera.com, is the first cloud solution vendor to offer a production version Windows Server as a cloud solution, while EC2 is still in beta.


Microsoft certainly isn&#039;t going to fold in this game, but I wonder if they are holding a winning hand or just bluffing the way they have been against Google.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing to watch not one but TWO companies beating Microsoft to the punch in the same day by delivery Cloud Computing for Windows Server. Amazon&#8217;s cloud announcement stole the thunder, but <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/services/saas/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210605074" rel="nofollow">Information Week </a> reported earlier today that a little know start up, 3tera, <a href="http://www.3tera.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.3tera.com</a>, is the first cloud solution vendor to offer a production version Windows Server as a cloud solution, while EC2 is still in beta.</p>
<p>Microsoft certainly isn&#8217;t going to fold in this game, but I wonder if they are holding a winning hand or just bluffing the way they have been against Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloud Wars: VMWare vs Microsoft vs Google vs Amazon Clouds &#171; Virtualization, Windows, Infrastructure and all that &#8220;stuff&#8221; in-between</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148527</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cloud Wars: VMWare vs Microsoft vs Google vs Amazon Clouds &#171; Virtualization, Windows, Infrastructure and all that &#8220;stuff&#8221; in-between]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] as Google AppEngine with SimpleDB,&#160; SQS and S3 but with the recently announced ability to run Windows within their EC2 cloud makes for an interesting offering with the existing ability to pick &amp; choose from Linux based [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as Google AppEngine with SimpleDB,&nbsp; SQS and S3 but with the recently announced ability to run Windows within their EC2 cloud makes for an interesting offering with the existing ability to pick &amp; choose from Linux based [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Trey</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148526</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are currently using GoGrid and there are still some problems that they need to work out:
a) The firewall in place is the native firewall within Windows
b) When provisioning a new server, the DHCP server sometimes does not release an IP to the device
c) The customer support is done out of India (which is fine) but they do not have actual access to the hardware (in case it is needed)


Understanding that the cloud works differently, this is not ready for primetime.

Limitations to the amount of RAM installed on each device is something that is hindering us from moving all our devices to GoGrid]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are currently using GoGrid and there are still some problems that they need to work out:<br />
a) The firewall in place is the native firewall within Windows<br />
b) When provisioning a new server, the DHCP server sometimes does not release an IP to the device<br />
c) The customer support is done out of India (which is fine) but they do not have actual access to the hardware (in case it is needed)</p>
<p>Understanding that the cloud works differently, this is not ready for primetime.</p>
<p>Limitations to the amount of RAM installed on each device is something that is hindering us from moving all our devices to GoGrid</p>
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		<title>By: Ranjit Nayak</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148525</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ranjit Nayak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The pricing of this offering will be very interesting indeed. One of Amazon&#039;s key principles is &quot;pay as you go&quot; or usage based charges.  We are now talking about the Windows OS as a service.

Pure play hosting companies probably have had to deal with a similar problem while using Windows OS VMWare images.

- Ranjit Nayak]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pricing of this offering will be very interesting indeed. One of Amazon&#8217;s key principles is &#8220;pay as you go&#8221; or usage based charges.  We are now talking about the Windows OS as a service.</p>
<p>Pure play hosting companies probably have had to deal with a similar problem while using Windows OS VMWare images.</p>
<p>- Ranjit Nayak</p>
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		<title>By: Prashant Singh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148524</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prashant Singh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[exciting news .


Michale ,

Its time to update that comparison chart on your website .

 I seriously hope that  you &amp; Flexiscale guys comeup with a good product and support to migrate data to and from EC2 so that i have comfort of option when i move my Business Process into the cloud . Lack of option is one major reason why a lot of people are restraining from  moving to EC2 /S3 type of services .

I see a BIG Ticket acquisition in this space in next two years . Most Probably by MSFT ,IBM or CISCO .
Good Luck .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exciting news .</p>
<p>Michale ,</p>
<p>Its time to update that comparison chart on your website .</p>
<p> I seriously hope that  you &amp; Flexiscale guys comeup with a good product and support to migrate data to and from EC2 so that i have comfort of option when i move my Business Process into the cloud . Lack of option is one major reason why a lot of people are restraining from  moving to EC2 /S3 type of services .</p>
<p>I see a BIG Ticket acquisition in this space in next two years . Most Probably by MSFT ,IBM or CISCO .<br />
Good Luck .</p>
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		<title>By: Amazon announces Windows based EC2 Instances &#124; CloudAve</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148523</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amazon announces Windows based EC2 Instances &#124; CloudAve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Related articles by Zemanta 10 Reasons Enterprises Aren&apos;t Ready to Trust the Cloud Windows Server 2008 to challenge adopters Microsoft VC Conference - Steve Ballmer&apos;s View On The World Exploring Windows Server&apos;s Vista ties ECWin2k8?Expanding the Cloud: Microsoft Windows Server on Amazon EC2Another Big Step for Amazon: WindowsAmazon&#8217;s Elastic Compute Cloud Gets Windows [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Related articles by Zemanta 10 Reasons Enterprises Aren&apos;t Ready to Trust the Cloud Windows Server 2008 to challenge adopters Microsoft VC Conference &#8211; Steve Ballmer&apos;s View On The World Exploring Windows Server&apos;s Vista ties ECWin2k8?Expanding the Cloud: Microsoft Windows Server on Amazon EC2Another Big Step for Amazon: WindowsAmazon&rsquo;s Elastic Compute Cloud Gets Windows [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Sheehan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148522</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Sheehan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure that GoGrid nor Flexiscale will be losing any type of competitive edge with this announcement. Cloud Computing users will have a choice and will obviously choose the Cloud Infrastructure that they are most comfortable with. Most Windows users are GUI users, as compared to Linux users who are more comfortable with command-line interfaces.

GoGrid launched with a public beta at the beginning of this year after 3 years of development. One of the most important features of GoGrid was to develop a GUI that was user-friendly, something that Window&#039;s users can definitely appreciate and understand. It makes the usability of the product much higher. However, we also launched an API to provide the programmatic flexibility to control the GoGrid Cloud Infrastructure. Basically, the best of both worlds (GUI and Command-line through the API).

While there are choices now, users will naturally gravitate towards an environment which they are the most comfortable.

This sector will only become even more exciting in the future!

-Michael
Technology Evangelist for GoGrid]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that GoGrid nor Flexiscale will be losing any type of competitive edge with this announcement. Cloud Computing users will have a choice and will obviously choose the Cloud Infrastructure that they are most comfortable with. Most Windows users are GUI users, as compared to Linux users who are more comfortable with command-line interfaces.</p>
<p>GoGrid launched with a public beta at the beginning of this year after 3 years of development. One of the most important features of GoGrid was to develop a GUI that was user-friendly, something that Window&#8217;s users can definitely appreciate and understand. It makes the usability of the product much higher. However, we also launched an API to provide the programmatic flexibility to control the GoGrid Cloud Infrastructure. Basically, the best of both worlds (GUI and Command-line through the API).</p>
<p>While there are choices now, users will naturally gravitate towards an environment which they are the most comfortable.</p>
<p>This sector will only become even more exciting in the future!</p>
<p>-Michael<br />
Technology Evangelist for GoGrid</p>
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		<title>By: Another Big Step for Amazon: Windows &#171; SmoothSpan Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/10/01/amazons-elastic-compute-cloud-gets-windows/#comment-148521</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Big Step for Amazon: Windows &#171; SmoothSpan Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] it tremendously easier for customers to pick one cloud computing and not have to choose.  As Stacey Higginbotham points out, this also eliminates a competitive advantage some other players had.  Aside from these smaller [...]]]></description>
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