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	<title>Comments on: Xohm WiMAX Launches: Limited Service, No Bandwidth Caps</title>
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		<title>By: Sprint Evaluating LTE Equipment</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/29/xohm-wimax-finally-gets-going-with-limited-service/#comment-930545</link>
		<dc:creator>Sprint Evaluating LTE Equipment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] me that Sprint is testing Long Term Evolution, or LTE, equipment, which seems a bit odd given Sprint&#8217;s cheerleading for WiMAX and 51 percent stake in Clearwire, which is building out a nationwide WiMAX network. I asked Sprint [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] me that Sprint is testing Long Term Evolution, or LTE, equipment, which seems a bit odd given Sprint&#8217;s cheerleading for WiMAX and 51 percent stake in Clearwire, which is building out a nationwide WiMAX network. I asked Sprint [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Portland Gets WiMAX Service</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/29/xohm-wimax-finally-gets-going-with-limited-service/#comment-918047</link>
		<dc:creator>Portland Gets WiMAX Service</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] 15, 2008 &#124; 1:40 PM PT &#124; 0 comments    Web surfers in the Pacific Northwest will soon join the denizens of Baltimore, Md., in their ability to get WiMAX service. Although those in Baltimore are still surfing under the old [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 15, 2008 | 1:40 PM PT | 0 comments    Web surfers in the Pacific Northwest will soon join the denizens of Baltimore, Md., in their ability to get WiMAX service. Although those in Baltimore are still surfing under the old [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Despite Downturn Clearwire Gets Xohm and $3.2 Billion - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/29/xohm-wimax-finally-gets-going-with-limited-service/#comment-915822</link>
		<dc:creator>Despite Downturn Clearwire Gets Xohm and $3.2 Billion - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Baltimore, Md., and Portland, Ore., will be the first cities to go online, with no mention of Chicago and Dallas which were to go live under Sprint&#8217;s Xohm brand soon. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Baltimore, Md., and Portland, Ore., will be the first cities to go online, with no mention of Chicago and Dallas which were to go live under Sprint&#8217;s Xohm brand soon. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dominik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/29/xohm-wimax-finally-gets-going-with-limited-service/#comment-902559</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Andreas, there was a test run on the WiMax network in B-More.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The author stated that he was very impressed with latency.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t want to step on any toes of this site so I won&#039;t post the link but you can easily find it by googling &quot;sprint&quot;  then clicking on news.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andreas, there was a test run on the WiMax network in B-More.</p>

<p>The author stated that he was very impressed with latency.</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t want to step on any toes of this site so I won&#8217;t post the link but you can easily find it by googling &#8220;sprint&#8221;  then clicking on news.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Have WiMax scar tissue!</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/29/xohm-wimax-finally-gets-going-with-limited-service/#comment-902363</link>
		<dc:creator>Have WiMax scar tissue!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@jesse-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your response.  A few additional facts:&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;With cell sizes of 1KM, this involved LOTS of physical buildout just to cover a single DMA, and with it, lots of hassles on getting antenna mounting locations that work - that is why it reminds me so much of mesh deployments.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;The spectrum is not great spectrum - really poor building penetration (which we both agree on), and much more susceptible to ground effect signal degradation - basic RF engineering math supports this POV.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;The average full deployment and adoption stats stand as quotes - targets of 2MB down/1MB up end-to-end.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is no really material bandwidth spread from 3G that creates a material new consumer experience (I view the WiMaz deployments as patchy mid-band experiences - will be hard to move me off of that POV).  I am not selling what LTE portends - this is a comparison with in-flight 3G deployments.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I think this should be a component of a larger mobile play for Sprint (i.e., incorporated in a hybrid data plan mixing 3G and WiMax for a great composite experience).  Unfortunately, now that xohm is a standalone business run by Clearwire, this is much harder to pull off.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jesse-</p>

<p>Thanks for your response.  A few additional facts:</p>

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<li><p>With cell sizes of 1KM, this involved LOTS of physical buildout just to cover a single DMA, and with it, lots of hassles on getting antenna mounting locations that work &#8211; that is why it reminds me so much of mesh deployments.</p></li>
<li><p>The spectrum is not great spectrum &#8211; really poor building penetration (which we both agree on), and much more susceptible to ground effect signal degradation &#8211; basic RF engineering math supports this POV.</p></li>
<li><p>The average full deployment and adoption stats stand as quotes &#8211; targets of 2MB down/1MB up end-to-end.</p></li>
<li><p>There is no really material bandwidth spread from 3G that creates a material new consumer experience (I view the WiMaz deployments as patchy mid-band experiences &#8211; will be hard to move me off of that POV).  I am not selling what LTE portends &#8211; this is a comparison with in-flight 3G deployments.</p></li>
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<p>I think this should be a component of a larger mobile play for Sprint (i.e., incorporated in a hybrid data plan mixing 3G and WiMax for a great composite experience).  Unfortunately, now that xohm is a standalone business run by Clearwire, this is much harder to pull off.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Network Management Doesn&#8217;t Have to Be Evil - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/29/xohm-wimax-finally-gets-going-with-limited-service/#comment-902318</link>
		<dc:creator>Network Management Doesn&#8217;t Have to Be Evil - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Higginbotham, Tuesday, September 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM PT Comments (0)    Yesterday Sprint launched its Xohm WiMAX service in Baltimore, the first step toward what could become a nationwide, alternative wireless broadband network. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Higginbotham, Tuesday, September 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM PT Comments (0)    Yesterday Sprint launched its Xohm WiMAX service in Baltimore, the first step toward what could become a nationwide, alternative wireless broadband network. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/29/xohm-wimax-finally-gets-going-with-limited-service/#comment-902309</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Kopelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Have WiMax scar tissue!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is not a mesh topology. The backhaul is completely separate and I believe mostly wired.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You are quite wrong to be pessimistic about link speeds as compared to incumbent 3G. Xohm has 100MHz of spectrum available in their markets, unencumbered by legacy use. Even assuming LTE brings bits/HZ parity, Xohm will always have more bandwidth because they have more spectrum. Anyway, a real world speed of 2M down / 1 M up would be 3X faster than what you get with current 3G deployments (assuming at least a moderately loaded network). And 3X is exactly what I would expect, given that Xohm is deploying in 3X the spectral bandwidth that AT&amp;T is using for HSPA.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also 2.6GHz is fine for mobility. The real shortcoming of this network will be building penetration in urban areas. Given how poorly Sprint and the others have addressed this issue with their existing PCS networks, I&#039;d say this is a significant concern. I think they will be counting on devices that can roam on to WiFi mitigate the need to deploy a lot of in-building WiMAX.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Andreas&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Latency should be far better than any US 3G build, because there is no interface with a legacy circuit switched core. The incumeants didn&#039;t have to build their 3G networks that way, but they did because they like sticking with their comfort zones.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Have WiMax scar tissue!</p>

<p>This is not a mesh topology. The backhaul is completely separate and I believe mostly wired.</p>

<p>You are quite wrong to be pessimistic about link speeds as compared to incumbent 3G. Xohm has 100MHz of spectrum available in their markets, unencumbered by legacy use. Even assuming LTE brings bits/HZ parity, Xohm will always have more bandwidth because they have more spectrum. Anyway, a real world speed of 2M down / 1 M up would be 3X faster than what you get with current 3G deployments (assuming at least a moderately loaded network). And 3X is exactly what I would expect, given that Xohm is deploying in 3X the spectral bandwidth that AT&amp;T is using for HSPA.</p>

<p>Also 2.6GHz is fine for mobility. The real shortcoming of this network will be building penetration in urban areas. Given how poorly Sprint and the others have addressed this issue with their existing PCS networks, I&#8217;d say this is a significant concern. I think they will be counting on devices that can roam on to WiFi mitigate the need to deploy a lot of in-building WiMAX.</p>

<p>@Andreas</p>

<p>Latency should be far better than any US 3G build, because there is no interface with a legacy circuit switched core. The incumeants didn&#8217;t have to build their 3G networks that way, but they did because they like sticking with their comfort zones.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: WiMAX is ON in Baltimore &#124; TTL - The Tech Link</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/29/xohm-wimax-finally-gets-going-with-limited-service/#comment-902159</link>
		<dc:creator>WiMAX is ON in Baltimore &#124; TTL - The Tech Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What about latency? The old 3G networks has to much latency to make VoIP a nice experience. But the 3,5G networks that are now used in most parts are good enough for VoIP.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about latency? The old 3G networks has to much latency to make VoIP a nice experience. But the 3,5G networks that are now used in most parts are good enough for VoIP.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Have WiMax scar tissue!</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/29/xohm-wimax-finally-gets-going-with-limited-service/#comment-902134</link>
		<dc:creator>Have WiMax scar tissue!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stacey and Om. you are a smart folk who knows this space.  Why do you think this even has a chance in hell in succeeding.  The service highlights:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1-2MB download/.5-1M upload real throughput (stop quoting theoretical numbers - that&#039;s just engineering propaganda) - don&#039;t tell me in a full metro buildout you will get 4MB average download - the only way that happens is if you have no adoption (the constraints of the backhaul networks alone will not make this math work).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Consumer pricing that needs to be (post this initial promo) in the $40ish/month range (may be off $5 here either direction) to fund the buildout&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All the complexities of mesh network deployment (1km-ish cells)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Spotty coverage even in the initial markets (will make T-Mobile look good ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bad spectrum for a mobile play&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Addtional CPE for home that a consumer has to pay for, one way or the other&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No triple/quad play economics to afford the high CPA expenses&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Stop me if you&#039;ve had enough!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stacey and Om. you are a smart folk who knows this space.  Why do you think this even has a chance in hell in succeeding.  The service highlights:</p>

<p>1-2MB download/.5-1M upload real throughput (stop quoting theoretical numbers &#8211; that&#8217;s just engineering propaganda) &#8211; don&#8217;t tell me in a full metro buildout you will get 4MB average download &#8211; the only way that happens is if you have no adoption (the constraints of the backhaul networks alone will not make this math work).</p>

<p>Consumer pricing that needs to be (post this initial promo) in the $40ish/month range (may be off $5 here either direction) to fund the buildout</p>

<p>All the complexities of mesh network deployment (1km-ish cells)</p>

<p>Spotty coverage even in the initial markets (will make T-Mobile look good ;)</p>

<p>Bad spectrum for a mobile play</p>

<p>Addtional CPE for home that a consumer has to pay for, one way or the other</p>

<p>No triple/quad play economics to afford the high CPA expenses</p>

<p>Stop me if you&#8217;ve had enough!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: WiMAX is ON in Baltimore &#171; TTL - The Tech Link</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/29/xohm-wimax-finally-gets-going-with-limited-service/#comment-902112</link>
		<dc:creator>WiMAX is ON in Baltimore &#171; TTL - The Tech Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spg</title>
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		<dc:creator>spg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this is the future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i think many people will be surprised not only at the growth of this network; but also at the speed in which users begin to drop their wired DSL/Cable connections.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;also the big bulk of usage will not be on cool mobile devices like the nokia n810 but regular old laptop computers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is the future.</p>

<p>i think many people will be surprised not only at the growth of this network; but also at the speed in which users begin to drop their wired DSL/Cable connections.</p>

<p>also the big bulk of usage will not be on cool mobile devices like the nokia n810 but regular old laptop computers.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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