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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-948560</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 13:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>( hint: someone who defends the Comcast = Works for Comcast! )

You sir are a LIAR, Bandwidth cost NOTHING, only the infrastructure, and there is enough infrastructure already in place for Comcast to supply ALL of their customers with an UNLIMITED account, at NO COST TO THEM. Only mental midget monkey focks like yourself who work for Comcast would say otherwise, you lying SCUMBAG!</description>
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<p>You sir are a LIAR, Bandwidth cost NOTHING, only the infrastructure, and there is enough infrastructure already in place for Comcast to supply ALL of their customers with an UNLIMITED account, at NO COST TO THEM. Only mental midget monkey focks like yourself who work for Comcast would say otherwise, you lying SCUMBAG!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Anderson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-939906</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When is Comcast going to release that bandwidth monitor?  It&#039;s been 6+ months now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When is Comcast going to release that bandwidth monitor?  It&#8217;s been 6+ months now!</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast hints that new data cap may not be set in stone &#124; e-Tech Gadget Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901694</link>
		<dc:creator>Comcast hints that new data cap may not be set in stone &#124; e-Tech Gadget Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Comcast to Develop Web-Based Bandwidth Monitor for Its Customers</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901556</link>
		<dc:creator>Comcast to Develop Web-Based Bandwidth Monitor for Its Customers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] However, the company seems not to have overlooked at least this aspect of the discontent its new policy caused. A representative of Comcast addressed the topic earlier today and wrote in comment section of GigaOM: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] However, the company seems not to have overlooked at least this aspect of the discontent its new policy caused. A representative of Comcast addressed the topic earlier today and wrote in comment section of GigaOM: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901476</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Kopelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wes

I think in markets with real competition, you&#039;d find unlimited residential service would end up costing about $10/month more than capped service. In these markets, business accounts are already only $80/month (vs. $50 for unbundled residential) for cable modem service and these include static IP and some other amenities. The real problem is not caps per se, but lack of competition and lack of proper regulation, especially in those markets with monopoly providers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wes</p>
<p>I think in markets with real competition, you&#8217;d find unlimited residential service would end up costing about $10/month more than capped service. In these markets, business accounts are already only $80/month (vs. $50 for unbundled residential) for cable modem service and these include static IP and some other amenities. The real problem is not caps per se, but lack of competition and lack of proper regulation, especially in those markets with monopoly providers.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Sirois</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901438</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Sirois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Users should pay for what they use.  Don&#039;t like &quot;caps&quot;, be willing to pay more.  The argument that &quot;caps&quot; stifle innovation is tired and unfounded. &quot;Caps&quot; actually invigorate innovation by demanding efficiency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Users should pay for what they use.  Don&#8217;t like &#8220;caps&#8221;, be willing to pay more.  The argument that &#8220;caps&#8221; stifle innovation is tired and unfounded. &#8220;Caps&#8221; actually invigorate innovation by demanding efficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: Between the Lines mobile edition</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901429</link>
		<dc:creator>Between the Lines mobile edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DRM Sean Portnoy: Sony releases wireless streaming, DVD, and input modules for Bravia HDTVs GigaOm: Two Ways to Get Comcast to Increase the Data Cap  posted by Sam Diaz September 25, 2008 @ 2:00 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DRM Sean Portnoy: Sony releases wireless streaming, DVD, and input modules for Bravia HDTVs GigaOm: Two Ways to Get Comcast to Increase the Data Cap  posted by Sam Diaz September 25, 2008 @ 2:00 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 2600</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901377</link>
		<dc:creator>2600</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the people who are gloating about the cap because they only use like 10GB a month but are paying the same price as someone using 250GB a month. Since I am using more than 10GB a month I am the one getting the deal. Seriously if the average user was using 2.5GB a month I would think dial-up would be the more economical way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the people who are gloating about the cap because they only use like 10GB a month but are paying the same price as someone using 250GB a month. Since I am using more than 10GB a month I am the one getting the deal. Seriously if the average user was using 2.5GB a month I would think dial-up would be the more economical way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: thegoodlife21</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901369</link>
		<dc:creator>thegoodlife21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rkoo

Because internet is already capped in terms of speed. You don&#039;t get less power or water flowing into your house, because you didn&#039;t purchase high volume electric or water plan, but there is a limit on the amount of data that every comcast customer can get at once because of their internet package. 

Now Comcast wants to use both business models, where the speed is capped and also the data volume, that&#039;s just not right. They shouldn&#039;t be able to make the cake and eat it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rkoo</p>
<p>Because internet is already capped in terms of speed. You don&#8217;t get less power or water flowing into your house, because you didn&#8217;t purchase high volume electric or water plan, but there is a limit on the amount of data that every comcast customer can get at once because of their internet package. </p>
<p>Now Comcast wants to use both business models, where the speed is capped and also the data volume, that&#8217;s just not right. They shouldn&#8217;t be able to make the cake and eat it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Felter</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901367</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Felter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jesse

If every ISP had a true unlimited tier for say, $300/month would you be satisfied? I suspect not...

(Hint: true unlimited tier = business account)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jesse</p>
<p>If every ISP had a true unlimited tier for say, $300/month would you be satisfied? I suspect not&#8230;</p>
<p>(Hint: true unlimited tier = business account)</p>
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		<title>By: RKoo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901342</link>
		<dc:creator>RKoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every data service I use has a cap. My ISP at work has a cap, my ISP at home has a cap, my iphone data plan has a cap, and my EVDO Verizon modem has a cap. Bandwidth is not free and not infinite. Why shouldn&#039;t there be a cap? 

If you are wealthy enough to get your own fibre to your home, there is still a cap --- a large one, but it is still there. So I don&#039;t get why people think there should not be a cap. 

All our utilities, water, electricities, waste are all priced by usage. Why should data service be different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every data service I use has a cap. My ISP at work has a cap, my ISP at home has a cap, my iphone data plan has a cap, and my EVDO Verizon modem has a cap. Bandwidth is not free and not infinite. Why shouldn&#8217;t there be a cap? </p>
<p>If you are wealthy enough to get your own fibre to your home, there is still a cap &#8212; a large one, but it is still there. So I don&#8217;t get why people think there should not be a cap. </p>
<p>All our utilities, water, electricities, waste are all priced by usage. Why should data service be different?</p>
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		<title>By: bmoura</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901337</link>
		<dc:creator>bmoura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;CapCast&quot;?  Funny!

The problem Comcast has with the cap is that since there is no meter - or way of knowing where you are vs. the cap - any cap will encourage customers to switch to DSL.  If the telcos are smart, they will skip capped DSL/Internet and start to recoup market share.

You also wonder about Comcast&#039;s plans for faster Internet services like &quot;Blast&quot; and Docsis 3.  Both are going to be non-starters for customers who will see them now as just faster ways to hit the cap.

If you ask me, the telco DSL offerings are in for some gains here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;CapCast&#8221;?  Funny!</p>
<p>The problem Comcast has with the cap is that since there is no meter &#8211; or way of knowing where you are vs. the cap &#8211; any cap will encourage customers to switch to DSL.  If the telcos are smart, they will skip capped DSL/Internet and start to recoup market share.</p>
<p>You also wonder about Comcast&#8217;s plans for faster Internet services like &#8220;Blast&#8221; and Docsis 3.  Both are going to be non-starters for customers who will see them now as just faster ways to hit the cap.</p>
<p>If you ask me, the telco DSL offerings are in for some gains here.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Richardson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901335</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jesse.

Yeah, I figured the issue about how TV content is delivered over the cable networks vs. IP video would be problematic, but that just doesn&#039;t seem to be insurmountable.  I mean, if a subscriber purchases a VoD movie, given some assumptions about how it&#039;s encoded, length of the program, SD vs. HD, etc., that would seem to equate roughly to the number of MBs for the same movie to carry it over IP through a cable modem.  

Not trying to oversimplify the issue, and I hear you that these streams are carried over different &quot;logical networks&quot; within the same cable... Just trying a thought experiment to ask whether it would be possible to ignore the engineering aspects long enough to find a way to implement/enforce the principle.

On your other point about the need for changes in how broadband services are regulate, I couldn&#039;t agree more.  But, it seems to me that even in cases where providers are forced to disclose accurate service levels, be up-front on terms of service, provide metering tools and so on, the risks of them 1) stifling innovation and/or 2) favoring their on content over their competitors still exists.  A difficult set of issues to address in a way that all parties would find acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jesse.</p>
<p>Yeah, I figured the issue about how TV content is delivered over the cable networks vs. IP video would be problematic, but that just doesn&#8217;t seem to be insurmountable.  I mean, if a subscriber purchases a VoD movie, given some assumptions about how it&#8217;s encoded, length of the program, SD vs. HD, etc., that would seem to equate roughly to the number of MBs for the same movie to carry it over IP through a cable modem.  </p>
<p>Not trying to oversimplify the issue, and I hear you that these streams are carried over different &#8220;logical networks&#8221; within the same cable&#8230; Just trying a thought experiment to ask whether it would be possible to ignore the engineering aspects long enough to find a way to implement/enforce the principle.</p>
<p>On your other point about the need for changes in how broadband services are regulate, I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  But, it seems to me that even in cases where providers are forced to disclose accurate service levels, be up-front on terms of service, provide metering tools and so on, the risks of them 1) stifling innovation and/or 2) favoring their on content over their competitors still exists.  A difficult set of issues to address in a way that all parties would find acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: P2P Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/24/two-ways-to-get-comcast-to-ditch-the-data-cap/#comment-901328</link>
		<dc:creator>P2P Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Comcast is going to get a web-based bandwidth monitor...&lt;/strong&gt;

It looks like Comcast listened at least to this complaint. A representative of the company chimed in on the subject in the comment section of GigaOM today, (...)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Comcast is going to get a web-based bandwidth monitor&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>It looks like Comcast listened at least to this complaint. A representative of the company chimed in on the subject in the comment section of GigaOM today, (&#8230;)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wilcoxon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilcoxon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Comcast cap is *NOT* a good thing for anyone.  I doubt I get close to 250GB (I&#039;m guessing 100-150GB) but, as others have said, capping usage is not about network but about anti-competitiveness from Comcast (eg Comcast would love no VoIP, no download tv/movies, etc as they compete with Comcast products).

Furthermore, almost *EVERY* user will be highly impacted by the bandwidth downgrade for &gt;15minutes of high usage.  Do you play any MMOs (or other large games) or download HD video?  Odds are very high that you will take &gt;15m to download a game/patch/video at some point and get screwed by Comcast lowering your available bandwidth.

If Qwest customer service wasn&#039;t so horrible (they make Comcast customer service look good) or there was another choice besides Comcast or Qwest, I would be leaving Comcast at the end of the month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Comcast cap is *NOT* a good thing for anyone.  I doubt I get close to 250GB (I&#8217;m guessing 100-150GB) but, as others have said, capping usage is not about network but about anti-competitiveness from Comcast (eg Comcast would love no VoIP, no download tv/movies, etc as they compete with Comcast products).</p>
<p>Furthermore, almost *EVERY* user will be highly impacted by the bandwidth downgrade for &gt;15minutes of high usage.  Do you play any MMOs (or other large games) or download HD video?  Odds are very high that you will take &gt;15m to download a game/patch/video at some point and get screwed by Comcast lowering your available bandwidth.</p>
<p>If Qwest customer service wasn&#8217;t so horrible (they make Comcast customer service look good) or there was another choice besides Comcast or Qwest, I would be leaving Comcast at the end of the month.</p>
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		<title>By: How to Fight ISP Bandwidth Caps</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Fight ISP Bandwidth Caps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Two Ways to Get Comcast to Increase the Data Cap&#8221; from tech blog GigaOm figures the best way to raise/eliminate ISP bandwidth caps is to consume, consume, consume. Data, that is. As more bandwidth-hungry applications hit the market, more people will consume more data &#8212; and that demand for bandwidth will force ISPs to ease up their download limitations. If the service providers do not respond, the demand will surely create a gaping hole begging to be filled by competitors. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &ldquo;Two Ways to Get Comcast to Increase the Data Cap&rdquo; from tech blog GigaOm figures the best way to raise/eliminate ISP bandwidth caps is to consume, consume, consume. Data, that is. As more bandwidth-hungry applications hit the market, more people will consume more data &#8212; and that demand for bandwidth will force ISPs to ease up their download limitations. If the service providers do not respond, the demand will surely create a gaping hole begging to be filled by competitors. [...]</p>
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