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	<title>Comments on: VoIP, 3G Roaming &amp; G1, aka the Google Phone</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Ingalls</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-921844</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Ingalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I work from home 1-2 days a week.. We us Skye as our communication devise.  If I&#039;m away from my PC for a fer minutes I would like to stay evaluable via skype.  So, I wan a skype phone..   What I would like to do is buy  google G1 with skype.  That doesn&#039;t seem so hard, but G1 has prohibited the use of g1..  I&#039;ve herd g1 isn&#039;t worth the money, so maybe it isn&#039;t suck a loss.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, I&#039;ll have yo look got another t-mobile phone that support Skye.....or buy one that can be hacked.  The other option it to keep my outdated V3 razor t mobile phone  and buy a brand new skype phone   Any suggestions tmoble?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Any ideas tmoble+++?????  which  t-mobile phone should I upgrade to that has skpe capabilities.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work from home 1-2 days a week.. We us Skye as our communication devise.  If I&#8217;m away from my PC for a fer minutes I would like to stay evaluable via skype.  So, I wan a skype phone..   What I would like to do is buy  google G1 with skype.  That doesn&#8217;t seem so hard, but G1 has prohibited the use of g1..  I&#8217;ve herd g1 isn&#8217;t worth the money, so maybe it isn&#8217;t suck a loss.</p>

<p>So, I&#8217;ll have yo look got another t-mobile phone that support Skye&#8230;..or buy one that can be hacked.  The other option it to keep my outdated V3 razor t mobile phone  and buy a brand new skype phone   Any suggestions tmoble?</p>

<p>Any ideas tmoble+++?????  which  t-mobile phone should I upgrade to that has skpe capabilities.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: More From The Inbox</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-902418</link>
		<dc:creator>More From The Inbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] about the phone that Google helped build&#8211;the G1, being sold by T-Mobile in the US.Â  I think Om Malik&#8217;s piece on the G1 covers the salient points. From my point of view, it&#8217;s just as bad as the iPhone&#8211;maybe [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about the phone that Google helped build&#8211;the G1, being sold by T-Mobile in the US.Â  I think Om Malik&#8217;s piece on the G1 covers the salient points. From my point of view, it&#8217;s just as bad as the iPhone&#8211;maybe [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: The Race is on for an Android Skype or VoIP Client</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-902108</link>
		<dc:creator>The Race is on for an Android Skype or VoIP Client</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Om Malik has confirmed that the GTalk application that will be included in the initial release will not have VOIM functionality in the first release, however there&#8217;s nothing stopping developers from creating [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Om Malik has confirmed that the GTalk application that will be included in the initial release will not have VOIM functionality in the first release, however there&#8217;s nothing stopping developers from creating [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Is T-Mobile Spinning on Google Phone Bandwidth Caps? - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901393</link>
		<dc:creator>Is T-Mobile Spinning on Google Phone Bandwidth Caps? - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Malik, Wednesday, September 24, 2008 at 8:51 PM PT Comments (0)    There are many problems with T-Mobile USA&#8217;s 3G plans as we outlined yesterday. None compares to the seemingly foolish [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Malik, Wednesday, September 24, 2008 at 8:51 PM PT Comments (0)    There are many problems with T-Mobile USA&#8217;s 3G plans as we outlined yesterday. None compares to the seemingly foolish [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: New Google and T-Mobile Phone and YOUR thoughts &#124; Bryce on Technology</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901378</link>
		<dc:creator>New Google and T-Mobile Phone and YOUR thoughts &#124; Bryce on Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] read (and even commented) Om Malik&#8217;s piece about the new Google Phone. I personally think he was a little harsh on the ol&#8217; Android [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] read (and even commented) Om Malik&#8217;s piece about the new Google Phone. I personally think he was a little harsh on the ol&#8217; Android [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sachin Balagopalan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901314</link>
		<dc:creator>Sachin Balagopalan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re right - How open are they really?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://tinyurl.com/52ekdj&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; How open are they really?</p>

<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/52ekdj" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/52ekdj</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: G1 Android - Ready for Prime Time? : Republic Of Internets</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901311</link>
		<dc:creator>G1 Android - Ready for Prime Time? : Republic Of Internets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] there is quite a bit of useful info out there on the blogosphere from some credible sources like GigaOm and David Pogue. As far as I&#8217;m concerned I don&#8217;t really care too much about the form [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] there is quite a bit of useful info out there on the blogosphere from some credible sources like GigaOm and David Pogue. As far as I&#8217;m concerned I don&#8217;t really care too much about the form [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901301</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Kopelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Aswath&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The problem with going by radio utilization is that it is mostly a function of S/N rather than what the user is actually doing. The same radio might easily have 4X the bandwidth in an urban setting than it would in a rural setting thanks to the much smaller cell radius. Anyway, backhaul is just as much a scarce/costly resource as radio bandwidth and how much of that is used &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; totally a function of what the users are doing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aswath</p>

<p>The problem with going by radio utilization is that it is mostly a function of S/N rather than what the user is actually doing. The same radio might easily have 4X the bandwidth in an urban setting than it would in a rural setting thanks to the much smaller cell radius. Anyway, backhaul is just as much a scarce/costly resource as radio bandwidth and how much of that is used <em>is</em> totally a function of what the users are doing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: VoIP, 3G Roaming &#38; G1, aka the Google Phone &#124; Prosumer News</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901274</link>
		<dc:creator>VoIP, 3G Roaming &#38; G1, aka the Google Phone &#124; Prosumer News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] GigaOM 3G &#38; Wireless Broadband Roaming: T-Mobile says it¡Çs boosting its network so that 94 percent of its U.S. subscribers will have 3G access. It will use 3G in the U.S. and Europe and yes, a U.S. user will be able to use the same U.S. device on European 3G networks. All of the phones will have the capability to use both 3G networks; all the phones will be dual-band. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Telephony 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Android Tidbits: Caps, TCO, VoIP</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901258</link>
		<dc:creator>Telephony 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Android Tidbits: Caps, TCO, VoIP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Google&#8217;s GTalk app on the phone is not set up to allow VoIP calling, although there are supposedly not specific limits on third-party VoIP apps coming to the Android Market. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google&#8217;s GTalk app on the phone is not set up to allow VoIP calling, although there are supposedly not specific limits on third-party VoIP apps coming to the Android Market. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RaiyaRaj</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901248</link>
		<dc:creator>RaiyaRaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice review. Some pictures of G1 can be found on http://raiyaraj.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/google-phone-t-mobile-g1-htc-pictures/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice review. Some pictures of G1 can be found on <a href="http://raiyaraj.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/google-phone-t-mobile-g1-htc-pictures/" rel="nofollow">http://raiyaraj.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/google-phone-t-mobile-g1-htc-pictures/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Android-based, HTC-made, T-mobile powered G1 hits the streets &#124; Ugh!!'s Greymatter Honeypot</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901220</link>
		<dc:creator>Android-based, HTC-made, T-mobile powered G1 hits the streets &#124; Ugh!!'s Greymatter Honeypot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] I&#8217;m still on my Windows Mobile XDA here. It does the trick but I&#8217;d love to get my mitts on one of these. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m still on my Windows Mobile XDA here. It does the trick but I&#8217;d love to get my mitts on one of these. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: T-Mobile Makes Unlimited Web Quite Limited on G1 Phone &#124; Profy &#124; Internet news and commentary</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901214</link>
		<dc:creator>T-Mobile Makes Unlimited Web Quite Limited on G1 Phone &#124; Profy &#124; Internet news and commentary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] T-Mobile spokespeople claim that there are no caps for the device in the data plans but the fact remains: this information is [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] T-Mobile spokespeople claim that there are no caps for the device in the data plans but the fact remains: this information is [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ol' yeller</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901211</link>
		<dc:creator>ol' yeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Did anyone actually believe this phone would be &quot;open?&quot;  A T-Mobile USA phone open?!  Please!  They&#039;re the most closed network in the US, beaten in their closed-ness perhaps only by Verizon.  AT&amp;T actually leads the pack these days in openness, with Sprint somewhere in the muddle (spelling intentional).  Openness in mobile is all relative of course - meaning more closed than dial-up AOL.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I always chuckle when I read comments about the technical feasibility of using VOIP on this or that carrier network.  Sure, it&#039;s possible and even done on various phones with OSes they can&#039;t control, but they&#039;ll lock down all the mass market phones and use the political stall tactic of talking about doing VOIP feasibility studies for as long as possible.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Open application stores?!  Sure, if open means getting Handset manufacturer and carrier approval beforehand.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone actually believe this phone would be &#8220;open?&#8221;  A T-Mobile USA phone open?!  Please!  They&#8217;re the most closed network in the US, beaten in their closed-ness perhaps only by Verizon.  AT&amp;T actually leads the pack these days in openness, with Sprint somewhere in the muddle (spelling intentional).  Openness in mobile is all relative of course &#8211; meaning more closed than dial-up AOL.</p>

<p>I always chuckle when I read comments about the technical feasibility of using VOIP on this or that carrier network.  Sure, it&#8217;s possible and even done on various phones with OSes they can&#8217;t control, but they&#8217;ll lock down all the mass market phones and use the political stall tactic of talking about doing VOIP feasibility studies for as long as possible.</p>

<p>Open application stores?!  Sure, if open means getting Handset manufacturer and carrier approval beforehand.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: VoIP, 3G Roaming &#38; G1, aka the Google Phone &#124; Headlines Mobile Services</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901208</link>
		<dc:creator>VoIP, 3G Roaming &#38; G1, aka the Google Phone &#124; Headlines Mobile Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] called me and compared it to the iPhone. (Coverage from across the network can be found here.) Source   Share and [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Bryce</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/23/voip-skype-3g-roaming-g1-aka-the-google-phone/#comment-901206</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With respect to supporting VOIP over WI-FI but not on 3G, my knee-jerk reaction is quality of service (QoS) issues.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3G, while faster than anything we&#039;ve seen yet in the mobile space is still pretty dang slow in most service areas (especially on the move) and VOIP is fairly bandwidth intensive.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s likely that t-mobile doesn&#039;t want to flood their support centers with calls about poor QoS with a bandwidth heavy protocol on a network akin to DSL at its fastest.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect to supporting VOIP over WI-FI but not on 3G, my knee-jerk reaction is quality of service (QoS) issues.</p>

<p>3G, while faster than anything we&#8217;ve seen yet in the mobile space is still pretty dang slow in most service areas (especially on the move) and VOIP is fairly bandwidth intensive.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s likely that t-mobile doesn&#8217;t want to flood their support centers with calls about poor QoS with a bandwidth heavy protocol on a network akin to DSL at its fastest.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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