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		<title>By: In Europe, VoIP Grows &#38; Grows</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[In Europe, VoIP Grows &#38; Grows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] related posts: In Europe, they like their VoIP (2007), VoIP growing really really fast in Europe (2008.)    [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/21/voip-growing-really-fast-europe/#comment-147619</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are the top 3 reasons you would use VOIP?

I have a quick question:

How would you further explain how the concept
of voice over internet protocol (VOIP) works
to a non-technical person.

Thank You


Leo Han]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the top 3 reasons you would use VOIP?</p>
<p>I have a quick question:</p>
<p>How would you further explain how the concept<br />
of voice over internet protocol (VOIP) works<br />
to a non-technical person.</p>
<p>Thank You</p>
<p>Leo Han</p>
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		<title>By: 21st Century Spirituality &#183; Hyperstream of 2008-09-22</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/21/voip-growing-really-fast-europe/#comment-147618</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[21st Century Spirituality &#183; Hyperstream of 2008-09-22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] mushin published a blog post. Henry Winckelmann: GigaOM: VoIP Growing Really Really Fast In Europe (via FriendFeed) [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: VSS Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Telegeography states VoIP subscription rates up 69%</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/21/voip-growing-really-fast-europe/#comment-147617</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VSS Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Telegeography states VoIP subscription rates up 69%]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Malik just reported on TeleGeography’s research showing that VoIP subscription rates had grown 69% year over year [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Billing and OSS &#187; VoIP in Western Europe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/21/voip-growing-really-fast-europe/#comment-147616</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Billing and OSS &#187; VoIP in Western Europe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is growing rapidly in Western Europe, with an estimated 37 million lines by the end of the year &#8212; approximately 29% of all fixed lines in the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: randulo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/21/voip-growing-really-fast-europe/#comment-147615</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Access is about $50/month including TV, unlimited national calling and 8Mbps Internet. Most of the time, you can&#039;t tell the difference between a voip call and a PSTN one. Fortunately, the bar has been dramatically lowered by the wide use of cellphones. Everyone expects dropped and noisy calls now.
The growth of France Télécom has unfortunately made their customer serve abominable. Happily, a law was recently enacted that forbids these operators from charging you for the 8-15 minutes you spend on hold with the most infuriating music possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Access is about $50/month including TV, unlimited national calling and 8Mbps Internet. Most of the time, you can&#8217;t tell the difference between a voip call and a PSTN one. Fortunately, the bar has been dramatically lowered by the wide use of cellphones. Everyone expects dropped and noisy calls now.<br />
The growth of France Télécom has unfortunately made their customer serve abominable. Happily, a law was recently enacted that forbids these operators from charging you for the 8-15 minutes you spend on hold with the most infuriating music possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/21/voip-growing-really-fast-europe/#comment-147614</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@lucas

Yes I do sleep. By the way for the best VoIP quality, truphone takes the cup. it is really really good even if it is a tad expensive.]]></description>
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<p>Yes I do sleep. By the way for the best VoIP quality, truphone takes the cup. it is really really good even if it is a tad expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: ricardo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in France, i pay 30 euros a month, and i get TV, unlimited phonecalls (to 70 countries) and 20mbps (which in reality are like 12). I dont need to pay for a fixed line to france telecomm, since i live in a ¨degroupe¨ zone. The quality is great, i have been using this for a year and it has never failed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in France, i pay 30 euros a month, and i get TV, unlimited phonecalls (to 70 countries) and 20mbps (which in reality are like 12). I dont need to pay for a fixed line to france telecomm, since i live in a ¨degroupe¨ zone. The quality is great, i have been using this for a year and it has never failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudolf</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Lucas. Disagree with your analysis. Most providers have adequate quality with their solution as they reserve dedicated bandwidth for their VoIP solution. Haven&#039;t had any problems with voice quality here in The Netherlands. Platform instability has happened sometimes, but no significant problems. Furthermore the VoIP power problem is heavily overrated as most people these days have a dect phone that doesn&#039;t work when electricy is dead. :-)
@OM: the €30 comes with free national calling and broadband included 20mbps down. And in France with alot more included. Also do know that VoIP growth is mostly stimulated by owners of cable and DSL ISP&#039;s offering VoIP in a bundle and not by Vonage type companies. This is a big difference from the United States.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lucas. Disagree with your analysis. Most providers have adequate quality with their solution as they reserve dedicated bandwidth for their VoIP solution. Haven&#8217;t had any problems with voice quality here in The Netherlands. Platform instability has happened sometimes, but no significant problems. Furthermore the VoIP power problem is heavily overrated as most people these days have a dect phone that doesn&#8217;t work when electricy is dead. :-)<br />
@OM: the €30 comes with free national calling and broadband included 20mbps down. And in France with alot more included. Also do know that VoIP growth is mostly stimulated by owners of cable and DSL ISP&#8217;s offering VoIP in a bundle and not by Vonage type companies. This is a big difference from the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Om
Yes people care since often there is no difference between flat rate for national VoIP or analogue anymore, so why settle for less if the price is the same. And even with analogue you can still use VoIP for foreign calls, just use call-through offerings from a VoIP provider with a analogue number covered by your flat rate. This of course for people who do not want to use their DSL data line for VoIP.
@Markus
I too have 16 Mbps, and had 6 Mbps S-DSL before. Outgoing QoS is great, but it also depends who your VoIP Provider is using in foreign lands. If VoIP works for you - great.
Thanks both for your previous feedback. Om, do you ever sleep :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Om<br />
Yes people care since often there is no difference between flat rate for national VoIP or analogue anymore, so why settle for less if the price is the same. And even with analogue you can still use VoIP for foreign calls, just use call-through offerings from a VoIP provider with a analogue number covered by your flat rate. This of course for people who do not want to use their DSL data line for VoIP.<br />
@Markus<br />
I too have 16 Mbps, and had 6 Mbps S-DSL before. Outgoing QoS is great, but it also depends who your VoIP Provider is using in foreign lands. If VoIP works for you &#8211; great.<br />
Thanks both for your previous feedback. Om, do you ever sleep :-)</p>
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