Comments on: Sitting by the Dock of the Bay: Your Data Center http://gigaom.com/2008/09/18/sitting-by-the-dock-of-the-bay-your-data-center/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:06:48 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Internet Evolution - Deborah Nason - The Net Takes Data Centers in New Directions http://gigaom.com/2008/09/18/sitting-by-the-dock-of-the-bay-your-data-center/#comment-905186 Internet Evolution - Deborah Nason - The Net Takes Data Centers in New Directions Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:52:53 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=21517#comment-905186 <p>[...] a similar vein, bloggers have been speculating over the past few months about a plan to build data centers on decommissioned ships. San Francisco-based IDS hopes to build 50 such [...]</p> [...] a similar vein, bloggers have been speculating over the past few months about a plan to build data centers on decommissioned ships. San Francisco-based IDS hopes to build 50 such [...]

]]> By: 3 Ways to Cut Data Center Energy Use from Sun’s Efficiency Guru « Earth2Tech http://gigaom.com/2008/09/18/sitting-by-the-dock-of-the-bay-your-data-center/#comment-903371 3 Ways to Cut Data Center Energy Use from Sun’s Efficiency Guru « Earth2Tech Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:00:27 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=21517#comment-903371 <p>[...] and computing demands, on the rise, the trend makes sense. Companies across the board, from Sun to Google to Advanced Data Centers to International Data Security, are innovating on a variety of ways to [...]</p> [...] and computing demands, on the rise, the trend makes sense. Companies across the board, from Sun to Google to Advanced Data Centers to International Data Security, are innovating on a variety of ways to [...]

]]> By: Green Blogs » Blog Archive » IDS Plans Floating Data Centers http://gigaom.com/2008/09/18/sitting-by-the-dock-of-the-bay-your-data-center/#comment-901133 Green Blogs » Blog Archive » IDS Plans Floating Data Centers Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:07:29 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=21517#comment-901133 <p>[...] Google filed a patent around the concept of a ship-based data center that relies on wave power earlier this month, but it appears that IDS is actually outdoing what Google has so far only proposed. The start-up plans to build 50 such data centers, 22 of which will be located in the U.S., according to a report by Om Malik. [...]</p> [...] Google filed a patent around the concept of a ship-based data center that relies on wave power earlier this month, but it appears that IDS is actually outdoing what Google has so far only proposed. The start-up plans to build 50 such data centers, 22 of which will be located in the U.S., according to a report by Om Malik. [...]

]]> By: IT’s About Uptime - The StackSafe Blog » Blog Archive » Links List 9.19.08 http://gigaom.com/2008/09/18/sitting-by-the-dock-of-the-bay-your-data-center/#comment-900403 IT’s About Uptime - The StackSafe Blog » Blog Archive » Links List 9.19.08 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:29:04 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=21517#comment-900403 <p>[...] its own computer navy. The data centers provide alternative energy efforts (tidal wave power) and the fleet will be tax [...]</p> [...] its own computer navy. The data centers provide alternative energy efforts (tidal wave power) and the fleet will be tax [...]

]]> By: IDS to Float Data Center on the Bay | Eco Friendly Mag http://gigaom.com/2008/09/18/sitting-by-the-dock-of-the-bay-your-data-center/#comment-900276 IDS to Float Data Center on the Bay | Eco Friendly Mag Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:12:41 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=21517#comment-900276 <p>[...] like Google isn’t alone with its idea to float a data center on the sea. Om Malik points out a stealthy startup called International Data Security, which plans to build 50 sea-worthy data [...]</p> [...] like Google isn’t alone with its idea to float a data center on the sea. Om Malik points out a stealthy startup called International Data Security, which plans to build 50 sea-worthy data [...]

]]> By: Google: And then, we annex Sealand! — mathewingram.com/work http://gigaom.com/2008/09/18/sitting-by-the-dock-of-the-bay-your-data-center/#comment-900181 Google: And then, we annex Sealand! — mathewingram.com/work Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:44:53 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=21517#comment-900181 <p>[...] this idea isn’t unique to Google: a startup called International Data Security is working on a similar plan, although it proposes to use decommissioned ships docked in various harbours and served by fibre [...]</p> [...] this idea isn’t unique to Google: a startup called International Data Security is working on a similar plan, although it proposes to use decommissioned ships docked in various harbours and served by fibre [...]

]]> By: Tom http://gigaom.com/2008/09/18/sitting-by-the-dock-of-the-bay-your-data-center/#comment-900157 Tom Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:13:53 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=21517#comment-900157 <p>And I can't wait to read the risk factors "sharks, whales, dolphins, and submarines may disrupt the operations of our data centers". . .</p> And I can’t wait to read the risk factors “sharks, whales, dolphins, and submarines may disrupt the operations of our data centers”. . .

]]> By: JP http://gigaom.com/2008/09/18/sitting-by-the-dock-of-the-bay-your-data-center/#comment-900155 JP Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:58:46 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=21517#comment-900155 <p>I agree that this will be an interesting development to watch. There should be a more formal write up on pros/cons as compared to other datacenter models. I'd like to see something simple.</p> I agree that this will be an interesting development to watch. There should be a more formal write up on pros/cons as compared to other datacenter models. I’d like to see something simple.

]]> By: Alan Wilensky http://gigaom.com/2008/09/18/sitting-by-the-dock-of-the-bay-your-data-center/#comment-900154 Alan Wilensky Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:54:27 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=21517#comment-900154 <p>Salt water chillers are no panacea, believe me. Fouling, back-flushing, brine removal, environmental permitting for near-shore use, effluent and other, etc.</p> <p>It's loads of fun, and may not offset the power and cooling costs they are so keen to recoup. On the other hand, maybe they only need 2-4% of the power savings of a typical solution.</p> <p>I think that power should be saved at the point of consumption, and that centralized DC supplies for a set of racks would greatly reduce the hysteresis losses of the switchers in a typical server rack.</p> Salt water chillers are no panacea, believe me. Fouling, back-flushing, brine removal, environmental permitting for near-shore use, effluent and other, etc.

It’s loads of fun, and may not offset the power and cooling costs they are so keen to recoup. On the other hand, maybe they only need 2-4% of the power savings of a typical solution.

I think that power should be saved at the point of consumption, and that centralized DC supplies for a set of racks would greatly reduce the hysteresis losses of the switchers in a typical server rack.

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