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		<title>By: Ernest Nova</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146971</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ernest Nova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well - pigs may be flying.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090120/bs_nm/us_cisco_servers_1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8211; pigs may be flying.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090120/bs_nm/us_cisco_servers_1" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090120/bs_nm/us_cisco_servers_1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Quick VMWare Links &#124; Dave Graham's Weblog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146970</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quick VMWare Links &#124; Dave Graham's Weblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Cisco to Support VMware? [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Cisco to Buy EMC? Don&#8217;t Hold Your Breath - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cisco to Buy EMC? Don&#8217;t Hold Your Breath - GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the Nexus 1000V switch, an integration of their switching software with VMware ESX (this was not what I predicted, but it was a step  toward my [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Nexus 1000V switch, an integration of their switching software with VMware ESX (this was not what I predicted, but it was a step  toward my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cisco Betting Big on Buzzwords for Growth - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146968</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cisco Betting Big on Buzzwords for Growth - GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8212; fast. Success, however, is far from guaranteed, especially in the light of competition from certain players that have traditionally been seen as [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8212; fast. Success, however, is far from guaranteed, especially in the light of competition from certain players that have traditionally been seen as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest Nova</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146967</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ernest Nova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excerpt from announcement:

&quot;The Cisco Nexus 1000V distributed virtual switch, with Cisco&#039;s VN-Link virtual-machine-aware network and storage services, will complement VMware Infrastructure, which is in use by more than 120,000 customers. Through this integrated virtual solution, information technology (IT) managers will be able to set and enforce connection policies for each virtual machine across a data center. Now the same policy-based configuration and operation of network services traditionally available in Cisco physical hardware switches will be easily applied to each virtual machine. These virtual capabilities will enable IT managers to more easily manage virtual machines as they migrate them across physical servers during routine hardware maintenance or to balance server workloads for optimized application performance and availability.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excerpt from announcement:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Cisco Nexus 1000V distributed virtual switch, with Cisco&#8217;s VN-Link virtual-machine-aware network and storage services, will complement VMware Infrastructure, which is in use by more than 120,000 customers. Through this integrated virtual solution, information technology (IT) managers will be able to set and enforce connection policies for each virtual machine across a data center. Now the same policy-based configuration and operation of network services traditionally available in Cisco physical hardware switches will be easily applied to each virtual machine. These virtual capabilities will enable IT managers to more easily manage virtual machines as they migrate them across physical servers during routine hardware maintenance or to balance server workloads for optimized application performance and availability.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cisco Virtualizes The Network, The Data Center - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146966</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cisco Virtualizes The Network, The Data Center - GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] move by Cisco isn&#8217;t all that surprising, considering that the company made a substantial investment in VMware right before the Palo Alto, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: renaissance chambara &#124; Ged Carroll - Links of the day</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146965</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[renaissance chambara &#124; Ged Carroll - Links of the day]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Cisco to Support VMware? - GigaOM - interesting move, giving a whole new meaning to the network is the computer [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Allan Leinwand</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146964</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allan Leinwand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David - yes, the latest rumors are that the announcement will be a virtual switch for ESX. Here&#039;s a post by Christofer Hoff that seems to confirm this news (http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/09/vmworld-2008-introducing-ciscos-virtual-switch-for-vmware-esx.html)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David &#8211; yes, the latest rumors are that the announcement will be a virtual switch for ESX. Here&#8217;s a post by Christofer Hoff that seems to confirm this news (<a href="http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/09/vmworld-2008-introducing-ciscos-virtual-switch-for-vmware-esx.html" rel="nofollow">http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/09/vmworld-2008-introducing-ciscos-virtual-switch-for-vmware-esx.html</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wouldnt it be more likely that Cisco will release something liek the virtual mananageble swtich that will integrate seamlessly into this

http://www.vmware.com/technology/virtual-datacenter-os/

We will see no doubt....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldnt it be more likely that Cisco will release something liek the virtual mananageble swtich that will integrate seamlessly into this</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vmware.com/technology/virtual-datacenter-os/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vmware.com/technology/virtual-datacenter-os/</a></p>
<p>We will see no doubt&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Leinwand</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146962</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allan Leinwand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Ernest Nova - maybe, we shall see on Tuesday. I&#039;m betting on an integration of VMware on the new datacenter switches.

@Don Draper - thanks and good point.  A WaaS module supporting Hyper-V could take a bite out of Riverbed&#039;s marketshare.

@Tarry - thanks and good thoughts!

@Douglas Gourlay - okay, what are you announcing? :)

@Clint Sharp - I agree that the Cisco MIPS CPUs are &quot;ridiculously underpowered&quot; to run a VM environment. This is exactly why I suggested that the aggregation of hardware and software in a Cisco/VMware hardware/software configuration would be painful to folks trying to leverage the economics of the Intel x86 architecture. As evidenced by what you are saying, Cisco has a hard time keeping their processor technology up to date already, so I doubt they would be able to keep pace with the nimble and fast-paced server market.

Since I am quite a bit off base, I&#039;ll have to assume my prediction is far too ambitious - which is a shame as I think that if my prediction was true it would put Cisco back in the center stage for the enterprise data center...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ernest Nova &#8211; maybe, we shall see on Tuesday. I&#8217;m betting on an integration of VMware on the new datacenter switches.</p>
<p>@Don Draper &#8211; thanks and good point.  A WaaS module supporting Hyper-V could take a bite out of Riverbed&#8217;s marketshare.</p>
<p>@Tarry &#8211; thanks and good thoughts!</p>
<p>@Douglas Gourlay &#8211; okay, what are you announcing? :)</p>
<p>@Clint Sharp &#8211; I agree that the Cisco MIPS CPUs are &#8220;ridiculously underpowered&#8221; to run a VM environment. This is exactly why I suggested that the aggregation of hardware and software in a Cisco/VMware hardware/software configuration would be painful to folks trying to leverage the economics of the Intel x86 architecture. As evidenced by what you are saying, Cisco has a hard time keeping their processor technology up to date already, so I doubt they would be able to keep pace with the nimble and fast-paced server market.</p>
<p>Since I am quite a bit off base, I&#8217;ll have to assume my prediction is far too ambitious &#8211; which is a shame as I think that if my prediction was true it would put Cisco back in the center stage for the enterprise data center&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Sharp</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clint Sharp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can also confirm that you are off-base with your speculation.  I&#039;m under NDA, but you&#039;re quite a bit off base.  Secondly, Riverbed has OEM&#039;d VMWare to run on their platform, which is already Intel based, and honestly it&#039;s a pretty boring feature.  The need to have a services platform out in the field is a pretty niche market.  Thirdly, Cisco runs nothing but iOS on their MIPS type processors they throw in their routers.  These processors are ridiculously underpowered to run a virtual machine like environment.  In the past, when they&#039;ve deployed technologies that required general purpose CPUs, they&#039;ve put them on a blade (WAAS or Unity Express for example) and allowed easier integration with supplied power and network connectivity from the chassis and ran them on x86 hardware on the blade.

Clint]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can also confirm that you are off-base with your speculation.  I&#8217;m under NDA, but you&#8217;re quite a bit off base.  Secondly, Riverbed has OEM&#8217;d VMWare to run on their platform, which is already Intel based, and honestly it&#8217;s a pretty boring feature.  The need to have a services platform out in the field is a pretty niche market.  Thirdly, Cisco runs nothing but iOS on their MIPS type processors they throw in their routers.  These processors are ridiculously underpowered to run a virtual machine like environment.  In the past, when they&#8217;ve deployed technologies that required general purpose CPUs, they&#8217;ve put them on a blade (WAAS or Unity Express for example) and allowed easier integration with supplied power and network connectivity from the chassis and ran them on x86 hardware on the blade.</p>
<p>Clint</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Gourlay</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146960</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas Gourlay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Allan-
not a bad try my friend.  Unfortunately I can tell you that in the upcoming announcement next Tuesday that well will not be announcing that we are taking VMWare&#039;s Hypervisor and running it on our hardware.  Not saying never, just saying that Tuesday we will not be announcing that.

Nice idea though!

dg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allan-<br />
not a bad try my friend.  Unfortunately I can tell you that in the upcoming announcement next Tuesday that well will not be announcing that we are taking VMWare&#8217;s Hypervisor and running it on our hardware.  Not saying never, just saying that Tuesday we will not be announcing that.</p>
<p>Nice idea though!</p>
<p>dg</p>
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		<title>By: The Cruft Of My Brain &#187; Blog Archive &#187; VMWare ESX on a Cisco Network Module?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Cruft Of My Brain &#187; Blog Archive &#187; VMWare ESX on a Cisco Network Module?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] it be?  I just read this over at GigaOm and I think Allan&#8217;s missing the boat.  Now, I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s tapped into a lot more [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tarry Singh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146958</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tarry Singh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Allan,

Good to see you surface up once in a while on Om&#039;s site :-)

Now to the rumor:

Cisco will indeed declare its much awaited entry into not only the Data Center but also into the Cloud market. Citrix on he other hand, which you will see soon, will use another angle to talk about the same. From the technology perspective it is the deep desire of the likes of Cisco and others to move into the &quot;immediate adjacent markets&quot;.

Cisco&#039;s move will open up the market for others vendors like Vyatta (which in my opinion with their Virtual Appliances) have more of a chance to be placed whereever in the geographically dispersed cloud (primary, secondary, staging, dvelopment etc), than the others. It will also give more room to the other network vendors, and indeed as other vendors who are proliferating towards the &quot;Complete GDM-aware&quot; model such as the likes of IBM, HP, Dell will feel the heat as well although Cisco may have struggles of its own get relevant in those markets.

So basically whether Cisco does what it will do or not, one thing is for sure:

o Market consolidation will accelerate. (Expect bigger M&amp;As)
o Lots of outsiders too are getting interested in it lately.(Steel Biggies, Investment Firms, etc)
o More need for open markets will arise, enlarging the pie only more for the Cloud Computing market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allan,</p>
<p>Good to see you surface up once in a while on Om&#8217;s site :-)</p>
<p>Now to the rumor:</p>
<p>Cisco will indeed declare its much awaited entry into not only the Data Center but also into the Cloud market. Citrix on he other hand, which you will see soon, will use another angle to talk about the same. From the technology perspective it is the deep desire of the likes of Cisco and others to move into the &#8220;immediate adjacent markets&#8221;.</p>
<p>Cisco&#8217;s move will open up the market for others vendors like Vyatta (which in my opinion with their Virtual Appliances) have more of a chance to be placed whereever in the geographically dispersed cloud (primary, secondary, staging, dvelopment etc), than the others. It will also give more room to the other network vendors, and indeed as other vendors who are proliferating towards the &#8220;Complete GDM-aware&#8221; model such as the likes of IBM, HP, Dell will feel the heat as well although Cisco may have struggles of its own get relevant in those markets.</p>
<p>So basically whether Cisco does what it will do or not, one thing is for sure:</p>
<p>o Market consolidation will accelerate. (Expect bigger M&amp;As)<br />
o Lots of outsiders too are getting interested in it lately.(Steel Biggies, Investment Firms, etc)<br />
o More need for open markets will arise, enlarging the pie only more for the Cloud Computing market.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Draper</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146957</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Draper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder how long it will take Cisco to also start supporting Hyper-V on their WAAS module for branch offices?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how long it will take Cisco to also start supporting Hyper-V on their WAAS module for branch offices?</p>
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		<title>By: Don Draper</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/09/12/cisco-to-support-vmware/#comment-146956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Draper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good sloothing Allan.....you&#039;re very much on target....can you say &quot;1k&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good sloothing Allan&#8230;..you&#8217;re very much on target&#8230;.can you say &#8220;1k&#8221;?</p>
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