Comments on: iPhone Challenges Symbian, but Symbian Fights Back http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:46:35 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: terkoz http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-943766 terkoz Thu, 14 May 2009 01:21:53 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-943766 the OS behind the Nokia handsets among others and to forget about it is asking for trouble. GigaOM has the details of the latest sales figures from Symbian. If you’re looking for a touch phone the OS behind the Nokia handsets among others and to forget about it is asking for trouble. GigaOM has the details of the latest sales figures from Symbian. If you’re looking for a touch phone

]]> By: Symbian Secures Big Backers in Mobile OS War | The Click http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-927053 Symbian Secures Big Backers in Mobile OS War | The Click Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:36:34 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-927053 [...] an endorsement of Symbian. Qualcomm is also a founding member of the Open Handset Alliance. Still, Symbian is not a pariah, thanks to its ties to Nokia, which has almost 40 percent of the global cell phone market. But the [...] [...] an endorsement of Symbian. Qualcomm is also a founding member of the Open Handset Alliance. Still, Symbian is not a pariah, thanks to its ties to Nokia, which has almost 40 percent of the global cell phone market. But the [...]

]]> By: Symbian Secures Big Backers in Mobile OS War http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-926965 Symbian Secures Big Backers in Mobile OS War Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:41:43 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-926965 [...] an endorsement of Symbian. Qualcomm is also a founding member of the Open Handset Alliance. Still, Symbian is not a pariah, thanks to its ties to Nokia, which has almost 40 percent of the global cell phone market. But the [...] [...] an endorsement of Symbian. Qualcomm is also a founding member of the Open Handset Alliance. Still, Symbian is not a pariah, thanks to its ties to Nokia, which has almost 40 percent of the global cell phone market. But the [...]

]]> By: The Cell Phone Junkie Show #119 « Mickey Papillon http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-898302 The Cell Phone Junkie Show #119 « Mickey Papillon Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:20:40 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-898302 [...] AT&T knocked out in the Northeast Symbian phone sales continue to slow Symbian still king 3G acceptance on the rise Metro PCS distribution deal with Best Buy XOHM milestone First-Gen [...] [...] AT&T knocked out in the Northeast Symbian phone sales continue to slow Symbian still king 3G acceptance on the rise Metro PCS distribution deal with Best Buy XOHM milestone First-Gen [...]

]]> By: Smart Phones of today » Blog Archive » iPhone Vs Symbian http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-898082 Smart Phones of today » Blog Archive » iPhone Vs Symbian Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:05:49 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-898082 [...] Facts by GigaOm: [...] [...] Facts by GigaOm: [...]

]]> By: tech-talk.biz » Blog Archive » Symbian Vs iPhone: Is the Glass Half Full or Half Empty? http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-897722 tech-talk.biz » Blog Archive » Symbian Vs iPhone: Is the Glass Half Full or Half Empty? Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:51:49 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-897722 [...] Facts by GigaOm: [...] [...] Facts by GigaOm: [...]

]]> By: Me http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-897594 Me Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:48:00 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-897594 while the Ijoke is a impressive piece of technology, it still lacks basic features that other manufactures have been doing for many years now. I just wish the apple fanboys will realize that their beloved device is just a glorified ipood, that can make calls. while the Ijoke is a impressive piece of technology, it still lacks basic features that other manufactures have been doing for many years now. I just wish the apple fanboys will realize that their beloved device is just a glorified ipood, that can make calls.

]]> By: norcalbarney http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-897567 norcalbarney Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:49:27 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-897567 I will agree with a couple points from the other commenters. Firstly, yes the iPhone is a great web browser. And the OS is buttery smooth for the most part(when it decides to respond at all...). And the uptake from non-smart phone users has been great. I view it mostly as an upgrade for RAZR users, because people who have used a real smart phone won't enjoy the iPhone's limitations. It would seem that most of these comment authors are suffering from Silicon Valley blindness. Nokia has over 35% of the world wide smart phone market. In terms of pure numbers India, Africa and China have 10x the mobile users compared to the United States. Nokia is the #1 Brand in India. Not #1 mobile phone brand, #1 Brand! People trust Nokia. For developers complaining about Symbian not being open enough, compared to what? Apple? From apple you'll get a $99 SDK, and if you write the correct type of app, you *might* get included in the Apple App Store. Nokia has open-sourced Symbian. You can develop apps for Symbian in six programming languages, all SDK's, emulators and test tools are free. Apple is a walled garden at best. In terms of raw hardware power, the original N95, now almost two years old, *crushes* the iPhone. If you want to create media with a pocketable device, an Nseries Nokia device will get you further than an iPhone. It's true that iPhone fanboys are, ahem, fanatic about the iPhone. But look at the numbers. I'd be really surprised if the iPhone EVER gets 1/6th of the market share that Nokia commands. You can quote me on that. I will agree with a couple points from the other commenters. Firstly, yes the iPhone is a great web browser. And the OS is buttery smooth for the most part(when it decides to respond at all…). And the uptake from non-smart phone users has been great. I view it mostly as an upgrade for RAZR users, because people who have used a real smart phone won’t enjoy the iPhone’s limitations.

It would seem that most of these comment authors are suffering from Silicon Valley blindness. Nokia has over 35% of the world wide smart phone market. In terms of pure numbers India, Africa and China have 10x the mobile users compared to the United States. Nokia is the #1 Brand in India. Not #1 mobile phone brand, #1 Brand! People trust Nokia.

For developers complaining about Symbian not being open enough, compared to what? Apple? From apple you’ll get a $99 SDK, and if you write the correct type of app, you *might* get included in the Apple App Store. Nokia has open-sourced Symbian. You can develop apps for Symbian in six programming languages, all SDK’s, emulators and test tools are free. Apple is a walled garden at best.

In terms of raw hardware power, the original N95, now almost two years old, *crushes* the iPhone. If you want to create media with a pocketable device, an Nseries Nokia device will get you further than an iPhone.

It’s true that iPhone fanboys are, ahem, fanatic about the iPhone. But look at the numbers. I’d be really surprised if the iPhone EVER gets 1/6th of the market share that Nokia commands. You can quote me on that.

]]> By: Sailing Blog http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-897350 Sailing Blog Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:51:12 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-897350 @Hoagus I agree 100%, apple not only got the gadget nerds excited it also got a ton of regular people excited about mobile applications in a whole new way. @Hoagus

I agree 100%, apple not only got the gadget nerds excited it also got a ton of regular people excited about mobile applications in a whole new way.

]]> By: Symbian still the biggest in the phone world | MostReviews.com http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-897283 Symbian still the biggest in the phone world | MostReviews.com Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:42:08 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-897283 [...] the OS behind the Nokia handsets among others and to forget about it is asking for trouble.  GigaOM has the details of the latest sales figures from Symbian.  If you’re looking for a touch phone [...] [...] the OS behind the Nokia handsets among others and to forget about it is asking for trouble.  GigaOM has the details of the latest sales figures from Symbian.  If you’re looking for a touch phone [...]

]]> By: Hoagus http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-897263 Hoagus Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:43:42 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-897263 "...It's easy to grow from nothing..." No, based on the rest of your article, I could only surmise that it's quite difficult to grow smart-phone OS marketshare from nothing. But Apple seems to be doing admirably. Check the latest phone web-browser marketshare stats. There, Apple seems to be leading the pack already. Hoag “…It’s easy to grow from nothing…”

No, based on the rest of your article, I could only surmise that it’s quite difficult to grow smart-phone OS marketshare from nothing. But Apple seems to be doing admirably. Check the latest phone web-browser marketshare stats. There, Apple seems to be leading the pack already.

Hoag

]]> By: Rodolfo http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-897260 Rodolfo Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:38:26 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-897260 Symbian is a collection of drivers with a horrible GUI. They are dead but like a headless chicken they are running around. Nokia sells expensive phones that often crash but no internet or multimedia devices. Symbian is a collection of drivers with a horrible GUI. They are dead but like a headless chicken they are running around. Nokia sells expensive phones that often crash but no internet or multimedia devices.

]]> By: Jimbo http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-897250 Jimbo Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:13:34 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-897250 SO WHAT? Symbian is still an antiquated piece of crap. Apple made a quantum leap by bringing OSX to the iPhone, and it's the one to beat. SO WHAT? Symbian is still an antiquated piece of crap.

Apple made a quantum leap by bringing OSX to the iPhone, and it’s the one to beat.

]]> By: Jason http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-897213 Jason Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:49:19 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-897213 >>>"Without a highly publicized App Store, the 9,834 applications developed for the Symbian OS (up 25 percent from the second quarter of 2007), aren’t getting the attention the more than 2,500 iPhone applications receive,"<<< Of course symbian is responsible for it. As a developer I can say symbian has far strong architecture for development than any other platform but they do not open their APIs to developers for developing real good application(all locked under capabilities that you will have never access to unless you are OEM yourself). Symbian does not care about developers. They are too arrogant and think that they are doing a big favour to developers. They do not realize if developers develop a good application for their platform users will adopt it more and more. Windows being a crap OS holds largest market share because it is so easy to develop application on that and we use so many applications developed on windows that its hard to leave it as those application are not available on Mac/Linux. Not sure when will symbian realize that platform who has the best application will win. They were market leader because no one else was there but situation is changing very fast and they should realize it. I would say as a developer that being the strongest platform for development SYMBIAN SUCKS. >>>”Without a highly publicized App Store, the 9,834 applications developed for the Symbian OS (up 25 percent from the second quarter of 2007), aren’t getting the attention the more than 2,500 iPhone applications receive,”<<<

Of course symbian is responsible for it. As a developer I can say symbian has far strong architecture for development than any other platform but they do not open their APIs to developers for developing real good application(all locked under capabilities that you will have never access to unless you are OEM yourself).

Symbian does not care about developers. They are too arrogant and think that they are doing a big favour to developers. They do not realize if developers develop a good application for their platform users will adopt it more and more. Windows being a crap OS holds largest market share because it is so easy to develop application on that and we use so many applications developed on windows that its hard to leave it as those application are not available on Mac/Linux. Not sure when will symbian realize that platform who has the best application will win. They were market leader because no one else was there but situation is changing very fast and they should realize it.

I would say as a developer that being the strongest platform for development SYMBIAN SUCKS.

]]> By: Eine Hand voll Zweizeiler: Meizu M8, iPhoneEXE, O2, AppStore-Clon, Marktmacht ect. http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-897178 Eine Hand voll Zweizeiler: Meizu M8, iPhoneEXE, O2, AppStore-Clon, Marktmacht ect. Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:15:59 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-897178 [...] Symbian gibt Quartalszahlen bekannt Symbian hat heute seine Zahlen zum 2. Quartal 2008 bekanntgegeben und damit nicht wirklich für überraschte Gesichter gesorgt: “During the second quarter, Symbian launched on 19.6 million devices, up just 5 percent from 18.7 million for the same period the year before. During the same April to June 2008 period, Apple said it sold 717,000 iPhones up from 270,000 in the same period in 2007 for growth of 166 percent.” Mehr Zahlen gibt es bei gigaom. [...] [...] Symbian gibt Quartalszahlen bekannt Symbian hat heute seine Zahlen zum 2. Quartal 2008 bekanntgegeben und damit nicht wirklich für überraschte Gesichter gesorgt: “During the second quarter, Symbian launched on 19.6 million devices, up just 5 percent from 18.7 million for the same period the year before. During the same April to June 2008 period, Apple said it sold 717,000 iPhones up from 270,000 in the same period in 2007 for growth of 166 percent.” Mehr Zahlen gibt es bei gigaom. [...]

]]> By: iPhone Challenges Symbian, but Symbian Fights Back http://gigaom.com/2008/09/02/iphone-challenges-symbian-but-symbian-fights-back/#comment-897176 iPhone Challenges Symbian, but Symbian Fights Back Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:05:32 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19500#comment-897176 [...] Random Feed wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptSymbian has released data for the first half of the year and the second quarter of 2008 that shows it has met the iPhone challenge and is still on top. That’s what happens when you have 159 devices shipping with your operating system and are a mainstay OS for Nokia, which has captured 39.5 percent of the handset market. During the second quarter, Symbian launched on 19.6 million devices, up just 5 percent from 18.7 million for the same period the year before. From April to June 2008, Apple sai [...] [...] Random Feed wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptSymbian has released data for the first half of the year and the second quarter of 2008 that shows it has met the iPhone challenge and is still on top. That’s what happens when you have 159 devices shipping with your operating system and are a mainstay OS for Nokia, which has captured 39.5 percent of the handset market. During the second quarter, Symbian launched on 19.6 million devices, up just 5 percent from 18.7 million for the same period the year before. From April to June 2008, Apple sai [...]

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