Comments on: Coming Soon: PC-as-a-Service over Broadband http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:24:59 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Coming Soon PC as a Service over Broadband | internet marketing tools http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-954042 Coming Soon PC as a Service over Broadband | internet marketing tools Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:55:42 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-954042 [...] Coming Soon PC as a Service over Broadband Posted by root 3 days ago (http://gigaom.com) The first is the proliferation of broadband internet saved by zeevb on sat 06 12 2008 comment on coming soon pc as a service over broadband by cloud marketing consulting by acs idg technetwork middot powered by wordpress com Discuss  |  Bury |  News | Coming Soon PC as a Service over Broadband [...] [...] Coming Soon PC as a Service over Broadband Posted by root 3 days ago (http://gigaom.com) The first is the proliferation of broadband internet saved by zeevb on sat 06 12 2008 comment on coming soon pc as a service over broadband by cloud marketing consulting by acs idg technetwork middot powered by wordpress com Discuss  |  Bury |  News | Coming Soon PC as a Service over Broadband [...]

]]> By: ynaa http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-931343 ynaa Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:20:45 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-931343 I agree with Chris White! "There’s a lot of issues out there regarding the internet privacy and ISPs. With that in mind I don’t myself putting faith in the level of privacy in putting a majority of my desktop contents on an ISPs server. Contemplating it more, by having a KVM system of sorts, you’ve essentially got yourself a keylogger. You thought ISPs randomly sniffing ports was bad, now they could see what you’re typing!" I agree with Chris White!
“There’s a lot of issues out there regarding the internet privacy and ISPs. With that in mind I don’t myself putting faith in the level of privacy in putting a majority of my desktop contents on an ISPs server. Contemplating it more, by having a KVM system of sorts, you’ve essentially got yourself a keylogger. You thought ISPs randomly sniffing ports was bad, now they could see what you’re typing!”

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]]> By: WebWorkerDaily » Archive Oosah: A 1TB iPhone in the palm of your hand? « http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-897486 WebWorkerDaily » Archive Oosah: A 1TB iPhone in the palm of your hand? « Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:00:36 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-897486 [...] get into the impact on unlimited data plans on telcos, though perhaps they stand to benefit from a PC-as-a-Service, or PCaaS, [...] [...] get into the impact on unlimited data plans on telcos, though perhaps they stand to benefit from a PC-as-a-Service, or PCaaS, [...]

]]> By: Suhit Anantula http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-897278 Suhit Anantula Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:19:20 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-897278 Allan: Great post. You are right about it. I have to tell you that this is already happening. We will be launching something soon in Australia. I mean in the coming weeks! Will update you! Cheers, Suhit Allan:

Great post. You are right about it.

I have to tell you that this is already happening. We will be launching something soon in Australia. I mean in the coming weeks!

Will update you!

Cheers,
Suhit

]]> By: John Stewart http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-897210 John Stewart Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:28:27 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-897210 Spitballing here... it seems the germane argument against is the data in the cloud (privacy, storage, etc)... what happens if PCaaS turns into a hybrid, whereby the data is in your physical environment but the OS etc are all in "theirs?" The advantages could conceivably be, you don't have to maintain the computer (upgrade it, add to it, "secure" it, etc) and yet the data you're worried about is still at the house - perhaps with a nice 'net based encrypted backup. Also might allow you to seemlessly "upgrade" to the next OS, or app, if done really well. Data migration then becomes the only issue I imagine. Even w/mobile devices, if you connect to the cloud, get the PC service, the PC service links to your house for the data and you get the combined result on the rendering mobile device.... Agreed on the bandwidth reliability and capacity and metering... but if video can go across the 'net, why can't read/writes? ;) Spitballing here… it seems the germane argument against is the data in the cloud (privacy, storage, etc)… what happens if PCaaS turns into a hybrid, whereby the data is in your physical environment but the OS etc are all in “theirs?”

The advantages could conceivably be, you don’t have to maintain the computer (upgrade it, add to it, “secure” it, etc) and yet the data you’re worried about is still at the house – perhaps with a nice ‘net based encrypted backup. Also might allow you to seemlessly “upgrade” to the next OS, or app, if done really well. Data migration then becomes the only issue I imagine.

Even w/mobile devices, if you connect to the cloud, get the PC service, the PC service links to your house for the data and you get the combined result on the rendering mobile device….

Agreed on the bandwidth reliability and capacity and metering… but if video can go across the ‘net, why can’t read/writes? ;)

]]> By: ALlan Leinwand http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-897198 ALlan Leinwand Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:14:38 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-897198 @Niraj - fair enough. I think it's still enabled by default and does not encrypt your index during transmission unless you set your preferences properly. I don't really know as after I read the user agreement for Google Desktop I quickly canceled the installation process ;) I also agree about the non-availability of data when disconnected being an issue. But, if we project out a few years and consider that many folks will have a mobile device that could be nearly always connected and provide limited desktop access, then this may not be an issue. I'd point out that anyone using salesforce.com, gmail, hotmail, facebook or any other web services have the same issue. @Niraj – fair enough. I think it’s still enabled by default and does not encrypt your index during transmission unless you set your preferences properly. I don’t really know as after I read the user agreement for Google Desktop I quickly canceled the installation process ;)

I also agree about the non-availability of data when disconnected being an issue. But, if we project out a few years and consider that many folks will have a mobile device that could be nearly always connected and provide limited desktop access, then this may not be an issue. I’d point out that anyone using salesforce.com, gmail, hotmail, facebook or any other web services have the same issue.

]]> By: Niraj http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-897156 Niraj Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:01:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-897156 @Allan: Google Desktop only puts your local index in the cloud if you use their "Share across computers" feature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Desktop#Privacy I'd say the biggest issues with PC-as-a-service are being completely disconnected from your apps/files during internet downtime, privacy issues regarding having all your files stored in the cloud, and being limited on the kinds of apps you can run (there would inevitably be limitations on CPU usage, GPU usage, bandwidth usage, etc. when machines are sharing resources for multiple users) @Allan: Google Desktop only puts your local index in the cloud if you use their “Share across computers” feature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Desktop#Privacy

I’d say the biggest issues with PC-as-a-service are being completely disconnected from your apps/files during internet downtime, privacy issues regarding having all your files stored in the cloud, and being limited on the kinds of apps you can run (there would inevitably be limitations on CPU usage, GPU usage, bandwidth usage, etc. when machines are sharing resources for multiple users)

]]> By: » Coming Soon: PC-as-a-Service over Broadband Citrix terminal servers and thin clients - Secure Citrix Systems http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-897095 » Coming Soon: PC-as-a-Service over Broadband Citrix terminal servers and thin clients - Secure Citrix Systems Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:18:00 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-897095 [...] news by Allan Leinwand This entry is filed under Citrix terminal servers. You can follow any responses to this entry [...] [...] news by Allan Leinwand This entry is filed under Citrix terminal servers. You can follow any responses to this entry [...]

]]> By: Ravi G http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-897072 Ravi G Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:05:33 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-897072 This <a href="http://chromethebrowser.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"> blog </a> claims to have found the download URL for Google Chrome.. This blog claims to have found the download URL for Google Chrome..

]]> By: sampat http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-897037 sampat Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:40:31 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-897037 If it will work in practically then it's really nice If it will work in practically then it’s really nice

]]> By: Allan Leinwand http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-896902 Allan Leinwand Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:06:43 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-896902 @Darren Mar-Elia - I'm not suggesting that PC would run minimal software but that a thin client offered by a service provider to the consumer would be running very limited software - maybe a browser and an RDP/ICA client only. The solutions I have seen demonstrated did allow an amazing wealth of application to run in a remote virtual desktop, so my guess is that for the average consumer there may be a good solution here. Next, I am thinking that running Windows in the cloud would allow for each desktop to be behind a firewall, have the right AV and anti-spam software etc. I think the potential consistency of this solution would be a security bonus. Finally, I'm pretty sure you're not doing this, but if anyone is running Google Desktop then all of the data on their hard disk is in the cloud. If you're using Windows Office Live or Google Docs then that's the same thing for that data as well. @Darren Mar-Elia – I’m not suggesting that PC would run minimal software but that a thin client offered by a service provider to the consumer would be running very limited software – maybe a browser and an RDP/ICA client only. The solutions I have seen demonstrated did allow an amazing wealth of application to run in a remote virtual desktop, so my guess is that for the average consumer there may be a good solution here. Next, I am thinking that running Windows in the cloud would allow for each desktop to be behind a firewall, have the right AV and anti-spam software etc. I think the potential consistency of this solution would be a security bonus. Finally, I’m pretty sure you’re not doing this, but if anyone is running Google Desktop then all of the data on their hard disk is in the cloud. If you’re using Windows Office Live or Google Docs then that’s the same thing for that data as well.

]]> By: nerdd.net | news and opinion http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-896873 nerdd.net | news and opinion Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:00:20 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-896873 <strong>Coming Soon: PC-as-a-Service over Broadband | nerdd.net...</strong> \r\nIndeed, the idea of a service provider offering a PC as a Service (PCaaS), essentially a PC in t... Coming Soon: PC-as-a-Service over Broadband | nerdd.net…

\r\nIndeed, the idea of a service provider offering a PC as a Service (PCaaS), essentially a PC in t…

]]> By: Darren Mar-Elia http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-896853 Darren Mar-Elia Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:03:38 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-896853 Allan- I don't know too many consumer PCs that run minimal software. I think the norm is just a ton of stuff doing all kinds of stuff. Also, not sure why Windows running in the cloud would be any more secure than Windows running on my PC. Regarding data privacy--email is but one application. I would NEVER, EVER consider putting all of the data that I have on my PC today in the cloud. Never, ever. I will check out the vendors you mentioned on performance. Allan-
I don’t know too many consumer PCs that run minimal software. I think the norm is just a ton of stuff doing all kinds of stuff. Also, not sure why Windows running in the cloud would be any more secure than Windows running on my PC. Regarding data privacy–email is but one application. I would NEVER, EVER consider putting all of the data that I have on my PC today in the cloud. Never, ever. I will check out the vendors you mentioned on performance.

]]> By: Allan Leinwand http://gigaom.com/2008/08/30/hello-att-can-you-clean-up-my-desktop-icons/#comment-896849 Allan Leinwand Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:22:00 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=19066#comment-896849 @Matt_ - sign me up! As long as I can play all of the games that I want without being bothered by metered bandwidth or a cap, I'm all for it. @Matt_ – sign me up! As long as I can play all of the games that I want without being bothered by metered bandwidth or a cap, I’m all for it.

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